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The scary idea of arming teachers. Something that people often suggest but often don't think about when it comes to the training and mentality that comes with this.
Blaster on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:55 am
Teachers are there to educate, not shoot people.

No matter what Trump thinks, I doubt many, if any , teachers will want the responsibility of taking a human life, and that's not even taking into account that some kids may get caught in the crossfire, or the shooter may not even have a gun going into the school, but you know, could just steal the gun of the teacher and go on a shooting spree with that.

So many problems with this idea, but then, it's really just a smokescreen so that when it gets turned down, Trump can say at least he "tried" to do something, and his paymasters at the NRA will be happy when the status quo resumes.

until the next time.
truespeed on Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:51 am
I agree with you Truespeed. I was absolutely shocked about Trump's suggestion that teachers should be armed. Defies all logic. Being a teacher to educate is already stressful enough. Can only imagine the issues that can come from it.
deanhills on Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:30 am
Actually some schools have done this and have signs saying that some of their teachers are armed. I don't have a problem with it should the people be trained. If you did 6 years in the Army and can show that you know what you are doing and can show proficiency then I can see no problem with you legally carrying concealed inside of a school.
Blaster on Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:59 am
The whole "arm the teachers" argument has been floated after pretty much every school shooting in the States since Columbine... it's not a new idea. I don't think it's a good idea, pretty much no one who brings it up seems to have thought out what that would ACTUALLY look like (details are really important in this sort of thing), and, even if it's a "good idea", it does nothing to address the problem, merely puts a bandaid on a symptom.

Things like this are reality...

Yeah, it's not a mass shooting, but it's another symptom of the same family of problem...

I always wonder how much tax money people who support these ideas are willing to pay to put them in place... they're often *stereotyping* people who aren't big on tax increases to fund services Razz
Ankhanu on Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:54 pm
The thought that addressing the issue with mass shootings is to add more guns into the mix. I don't think people really understand what it means to shoot a gun and what it means to shoot a gun in a stressful situation. Then add in that you could kill someone and it may not be the person you thought. We already have issues with police officers shooting people that maybe shouldn't have been for reasons X, Y, Z. Now you want to push that onto teachers?

Did Tommy really have a gun or weapon when the teacher shot him?

Or, the teacher meant to protect the students from the danger presented by John but ended up shooting and killer Anna instead.

When you get into the field of teacher you're probably thinking you want to help mould (that's right, British spelling) the minds of the young people, help them succeed in life and aspire to something great. Now you want teachers to get extensive training (or what I hope is extensive training) in the use of firearms? And not just how to shoot. I would fully expect the teacher to undergo rigorous training and testing so they can properly assess and evaluate potentially dangerous situations. Identify the threats and handle them accordingly. If they can't do that then they shouldn't have a gun at school. But that also may mean they can't be a teacher?

And who's to say the teacher won't have a mental break and then they're the next one bringing a gun to school and shooting staff and students (although, that's probably happened before too?).

Adding more guns is not the solution. It's not even a good band-aid.
TheGremlyn on Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:36 pm
Man who takes gun from shooter in hostage situation gets shot by police because they think hes the shooter

He was told to throw the gun down, he didn't want to just throw it in case it went off and hit someone, in the mean time a cop panicked and shot him, a trained police officer, covered by other trained police officers, pointing guns at one man holding but not pointing a gun.

This is what happens in real shooter situations, people, even trained people panic .
truespeed on Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:45 am
That really just proves as well that no matter how much training and experience you might have you can still panic and make mistakes. Then you get roasted.

Not that police spend as much time in intense situations like that all the time. It's hard to simulate something like that.

No one really knows how they'll react in a situation like that until they've been in it. And there's no way any training could really cover every possible situation you might encounter.
TheGremlyn on Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:59 am
In the news today "Teacher fires gun in classroom"

Happened at Dalton High School in Georgia, nobody was hurt, nobody was shot at, still no news on why he did what he did.


The incident began about 11:30 a.m. when Randal Davidson, a 53-year-old social studies teacher, refused to let students into his classroom, Frazier said. When the principal put a key in the door in an attempt to enter, Davidson fired a shot from a handgun through an exterior window of the classroom, Frazier said.

The school immediately went into lockdown, and police quickly arrived and evacuated the immediate area around his classroom. After about 30 to 45 minutes, Davidson agreed to surrender to authorities and was taken into custody without further incident, Frazier said.

Frazier said there was no evidence Davidson was trying to fire at anyone.
"It certainly seemed like he didn't have any intention to harm anybody else," Frazier said.

Davidson has been a teacher at Dalton since 2004 and was the play-by-play radio announcer for the high school's football team

Do people still want to give teachers guns?
truespeed on Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:36 am

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