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15,000 posts




Moving from 13,000 to 14,000 had been like the blitz. For two reasons. I just did not like the idea of being in the 13,000's, and everyone had been encouraging one another to post as much as they could at that time. I'm still posting well above the 45 points a day, but where I'd often posted 80 points or more a day, I'm closer to 55-60 points a day and battling to get to those points.

One reason is that there are just many less posts available to respond to than before and those who had been fired up to keep the posting numbers up seem to have calmed down and are posting much less frequently than before. The other reason is that I'm not as fired up myself to post as I usually have been. The threads in the Phil&Rel, World News and Politics forums aren't doing that much for me as most of them are re-inventing the same wheels over and over again. These Forums are badly in need of fresh ideas. Only fun these days are the jmi/handfleisch political duels. I'm happy they are still around. And sad that we are seeing so much less of Ocalhoun. He always managed to even out the Republican vs Democrat duel with some rational and sane points of view. I'm missing his Liberal points of view as well.

So, yes, unless something magical could happen like an awesome revival of competitions etc, it is probably going to take much longer to get to 15,000 posts. Smile



58 blog comments below

Looks as though I'm getting closer than I thought. More rapidly. Must be the Coins for Quality Posts project that has me paying much closer to all of the posts and responding to some.
deanhills on Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:09 pm
Holy crow, you're flyin' towards 15k! With <200 posts to go, you can probably hit it by next week.

Impressive.
Ankhanu on Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:49 pm
Not sure how you manage such high posts counts.

I've been in the 2k mark for a very long time now and I probably wont see my post count in the 3k mark for a few months, if not into next year. Laughing

Though I still manage to stay near 45 points on a daily basis, so I guess on a normal level I'm not doing too bad.

I try to increase my daily posting level, but I'm so busy doing other things, by the time I get through the daily reports, I don't have too much time left to post.

Just know, I'm always here, reading, spamcanning, banning... and sometimes posting. Very Happy
Ghost Rider103 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:10 pm
And not so long ago you had less posts than me. Things are going fast here. Very Happy
Bondings on Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:21 pm
@Bondings. I'm not so sure that my high number of posts is a case of posting more than the other volume posters used to, but the volume posters posting less than they used to with interruptions of days/weeks in between their posting. I've just been more consistent in my volume contributions than others have been. When I started out there had been other Frihosters who had contributed more posts than I had on a daily basis. That has tapered off in a major way. I wonder whether that is a new trend and maybe I'm a little behind the times. Maybe it's time for me to do the same and 15,000 may be a good milestone to join this trend. Think
deanhills on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:36 am
The amount of spam on here puts me off posting a little,so i may not post as much as i used too,not that i was ever a major contributor anyway. Smile
truespeed on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:49 am
@Truespeed. I've always seen you as a regular contributor. OK now I understand why you aren't posting as regularly. I must say it's a bit irritating to me too. Particularly when people are responding to the spam posts. I was wondering tonight however maybe instead of reporting the posts, to respond to them as they may be noticed more as spam that way. Twisted Evil
deanhills on Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:01 am
By responding its more likely the posts will get left as a thread is then created and the mods may decide to leave it on that basis.

I think the forum needs a bit of a clear up,especially the SEO forums,they are spam city,maybe adding a 20 post limit (if its possible) before links will show would be a good way of putting them off.

Spammers are everywhere,i get them on my forum all the time,joining,post nonsense,add their link to their sig and go,i just delete all their username's and posts,i won't allow anyone to use my forum for spam/backlinks.
truespeed on Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:19 am
@GhostRider. I'm almost dead certain people would recognize you better if you stop being a ghost!

Maybe it's time to wear a proper Mod Crown so people could appreciate who you are. You've more than earned and deserved it. Cool
deanhills on Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:20 am
@Truespeed. Agreed. Wish there could be an added category of staff for focusing on spam only. You, Standready, Peterssidan and a few other regular posters would be excellent at that. You could be called Spam Generals with the mission to kill spam so that it can still allow for Moderators to be Honorary being a step up from Spam General. Once the Spam General has moved a Spam Post to the Spam Can Moderators could sift through the Spam Can for purposes of banning or reinstating if they think they are not really spam posts. That would result in almost NIL reports. And allow Moderators to moderate instead of dealing with reports and spam only. I'm sure it has to be easy to give Spam Generals access to the Spam Can only. And reward them with coins or upgrades for their services.
deanhills on Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:33 am
Dean, honestly, have you been spamming Frihost lately? Twisted Evil
loremar on Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:37 am
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By responding its more likely the posts will get left as a thread is then created and the mods may decide to leave it on that basis.


This can be correct at times. By actually responding to spam posts that resurrect very old threads, (by respond I mean by actually responding to the thread in a normal manner), this can start up the discussion yet again.

If the discussion ignites and everything is fine and the discussion just continues on, there really is no reason to lock the thread.

But even then, if I catch someone or something resurrecting an old thread, if I think it may be a decent topic that could generate some quality posts, I'll likely leave the thread open.

Otherwise, the topic will only get closed if it's a question/answer type of thread, as nothing else can be added to the thread (assuming the question has been answered).

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Maybe it's time to wear a proper Mod Crown so people could appreciate who you are. You've more than earned and deserved it.

Perhaps someday. Very Happy
Ghost Rider103 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:52 pm
Ghost Rider103 wrote:
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Maybe it's time to wear a proper Mod Crown so people could appreciate who you are. You've more than earned and deserved it.


Perhaps someday. Very Happy


NOOO!!!
Remain an unique figure. You've more than earned and deserve it!
Ankhanu on Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:23 pm
Honestly I don't ever plan to change it. Unless Bondings requested it be changed to mod status to be more formal, then I wouldn't have a problem agreeing to it.

So the rank is likely going to stay, unless Bondings requests otherwise.
Ghost Rider103 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:10 pm
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to respond to them as they may be noticed more as spam that way.

Exactly, Dean. As you know, I do post on spam. I feel calling what it is lets others know what is spam and that the member is being noticed for the garbage they produce.
standready on Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:42 pm
Responding to the spam yourself and telling them what it is, is reall a waste of time. It's also a form of back seat moderating.

Not only is it a form of back seat moderating, it's also a bit annoying to the staff. Not only do we have to remove spam, we also have to remove any posts that responded to that spam.

So responding to the spam is not something that should really be done. Reporting the post or the user is the best thing to do.
Ghost Rider103 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:16 pm
@Ghost Rider103 True, just report the spam and things will be fine. Moderators are working (except in the Portuguese forum, we are orphans from our moderators Razz).

And Dean, HOLY COW! I'm here since 2006 and I'm not even close to the 2k mark!
Vanilla on Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:28 am
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except in the Portuguese forum, we are orphans from our moderators


Sorry to hear that. I see reports come in from that forum once in a while. Not much I can do with those though since I only speak English. So unfortunately, they get thrown into a "Languages" report section. So when a language mod comes on they will see it (if they ever do come on anymore).

Were in need of some language mods, that's for sure.
Ghost Rider103 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:34 am
Agreed Standready. Particularly for newbies who don't know the difference. I was caught like that once just after I joined. And completely embarrassed by the experience as I did not have a clue that it had been a spam post. Next thing another Frihoster contributed a sarcastic post about people trying to score points off spam posts. Took a while before the spam thread got locked.

Sorry GhostRider. Sometimes when there are no Mods around I really don't see any harm for someone like Standready to put a one liner in that warns others not to go in there. He does it with great style. And it is helpful to others. The more ideal of course would be a way to neutralize the spam post instantly instead of a report in a line-up while the spam post is doing its damage. I.e. a core group of your regular trusted Frihosters who can send spam posts to a quarantine spam can. This could be by way of a spam button that is attached to every post and that is only visible to them. Sort of an improved version of the report system.
deanhills on Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:55 pm
Don't apologize to me, I don't make the rules, I just enforce them. Lately I've been pretty laid back about enforcing quite a few rules and have let people slide with just sending them an unofficial PM.

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I really don't see any harm for someone like Standready to put a one liner in that warns others not to go in there.

Maybe you don't, but if everyone responded to every spam post they seen, I'd definitely be giving out AWIT's even to quality members, as it would basically double the spam count on Frihost.

If someone replies to a topic of a spammer telling them not to go in there, it serves no purpose at all. If someone read either post, they are of course already in there.

I'm not complaining about people responding to spam posts, I don't see it happen all that often, I'm simply telling all of you to NOT do it, for future reference and to avoid getting yourself an AWIT.

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The more ideal of course would be a way to neutralize the spam post instantly instead of a report in a line-up while the spam post is doing its damage.

Suggestions of a system like this has been brought up a few times in the past. I personally see no need for it. Would take a bit of work to do. Spam only seems to stay around for only a couple hours on the forums. I don't think that should be much of a worry to anyone.
Ghost Rider103 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:58 pm
Ghost Rider103 wrote:
I'm simply telling all of you to NOT do it, for future reference and to avoid getting yourself an AWIT.

Ghost, you probably realize that none of us are obligated to report spam. All we need to do according to the RULES is make enough posts to keep our Websites in good shape. Standready informed me that he wishes to stay out of the doghouse and will no longer be reporting spam. Neither will I. I think it is a very wise precaution as one would only be likely to respond to spam if one is involved in fighting spam including hitting the report button all the time. If there are too many spam posts that are not readily attended to, to the extent that TrueSpeed is staying away, then we should particularly not be using the report button. The more spam that gets unattended when we are using the report button, the more frustrated we may become at their non-attendance and the more likely that we may respond to spam. Almost like setting ourselves up for an AWIT. And that of course won't do!
deanhills on Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:12 am
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Ghost, you probably realize that none of us are obligated to report spam.


I never said you were. If you don't want to use the report button, then by all means don't, it doesn't bother us at all.

I just mentioned the absolute quickest way for spam to disappear is to report it. The staff can't necessarily pick through every single post on Frihost, but we can easily go through every report.
Ghost Rider103 on Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:40 pm
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Sorry to hear that. I see reports come in from that forum once in a while. Not much I can do with those though since I only speak English. So unfortunately, they get thrown into a "Languages" report section. So when a language mod comes on they will see it (if they ever do come on anymore).


I think I'm the one making those reports! Laughing If you ever need help with Portuguese you can count on me. Very Happy I'm not here everyday but it's kind of sad to see the Portuguese forum without a mod. We use to have very good users posting there.
Vanilla on Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:35 pm
Good for you Vanilla. The Turkish Language Forum had much of the same problems for YEARS! You can check the threads in the Suggestion Forum.
http://www.frihost.com/search/?query=turkish+moderator&Submit=Search&QueryType=L&SortType=DATE&forum_id=9

Helios then mentioned in another thread how difficult it is to appoint a Moderator.
http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-127062.html#1038261

I know you were not hinting in this direction, but for me it is crystal clear. Hopefully Ghost/Bondings has noticed your offer for assistance, and maybe something really positive can come out of this as I'm sure you'd be ideal for energizing the Portuguese Language Forum.
deanhills on Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:48 pm
Ghost. If you think about it. Reporting spam IS a form of "back seat" moderating. You can't get past that. The tragedy here at Frihost is that the few active Mods who are around are mostly using the reporting system for cleaning up the Forum. To the extent that a problem or a spam post will only be identified as a problem or spam if it is reported. In an ideal Forum one should have a healthy core of active Moderators patrolling ALL of the Forums and preferably Forums they have little interest in so as to ensure that there is no bias. Instead we seem to be doing the patrolling for you.

The reported spam posts seem to be well attended now as you and Ocalhoun are visiting regularly and Bikerman must also be working hard in the background. But there are times when you are not around and when it is MOST frustrating when there are spam posts that have been reported and are unattended. As much as we have to show compassion to you guys for struggling to control spam, maybe that compassion should be the other way round as well. As I'd have thought all of us are on the same "kill spam" team. Or maybe not?

Anyway, if you can do without my spam reports then great. I don't have to worry about that any longer.
deanhills on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:30 pm
Patience is a virtue.
Remember, moderators are people... people who are not paid to maintain this site, and do it voluntarily. These people have other things to do in a day that are more important than maintaining a messageboard. Seriously, if a little spam hangs out for a couple hours or a day... so what. If you've already flagged it, ignore it and move on. Before you know it, it won't be there anymore.

The difference between reporting and "backseat moderating" is in implementation. Reporting you're informing the moderators of a problem, it's directed only to the moderators (you COULD also do this as a PM, but I'm sure they'd prefer and tell you to use the reporting system instead). When you're backseat moderating, you're informing people of, or trying to enforce, the forum rules yourself... for example, publicly flagging spam or what have you. Difference is subtle, but it's there. If you wanted to get REALLY technical and if the mods were cranky and really pedantic today, this could be considered backseat moderating.

I do find it very interesting that you're complaining that the mods aren't actively finding and dealing with unreported problems. How would you know if they were or weren't? If they deal with a problem you haven't reported, how would you know it existed in the first place? Give the guys some credit, eh?
Ankhanu on Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:57 pm
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Ghost. If you think about it. Reporting spam IS a form of "back seat" moderating.

It's a form in which is private, which is exactly the goal. We don't want users publicly back seat moderating, as your assumption of someone doing something incorrect can very well be wrong. I've even spotted you reporting posts that aren't spam or don't need to be locked, from a moderators point of view. This is why we don't allow users to publicly moderate.

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The tragedy here at Frihost is that the few active Mods who are around are mostly using the reporting system for cleaning up the Forum.

This is actually incorrect. Maybe 10 reports come in a day, sometimes more but often its around 10 or so. I spamcan probably 200 posts a week, probably even double that. So the report system is often helpful, but it does not take over the majority of the work at all.

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Instead we seem to be doing the patrolling for you.

No, I'd be patrolling your reports and seeing if they are valid or not. Probably 40% of the time a report is invalid, again a reason why we can't publicly allow public back seat moderation.
Ghost Rider103 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:39 pm
@Ankhanu. I suggest you read all of the blog post first before you make harsh judgments - which by the way is a second time you have done in less than a week. First I get accused of stalking someone when I am admiring their posts, next thing I get accused of complaining mods are not doing their jobs.

I came to the defense of Standready who was accused of backseat moderating when he responded to a spam post. There are NO complaints against ANY moderator/s. If there was any criticism it was against a SYSTEM that is not working very well. That is documented very well every where. There are not enough active Moderators to look after all of the spam. I have every sympathy of how hard the Mods at Frihost are working. I'm a Mod myself. I should at least have an idea what that means.

I'd be very happy if this side conversation about spam can end now.

@Ghost Rider. Point taken. Hopefully we can get back on the topic of my blog post please.
deanhills on Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:08 pm
hmmm. 15000 posts, that's already double the Elite Frihoster.
loremar on Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:36 pm
@loremar, I guess I need to create a new rank for it then. Very Happy
Bondings on Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:49 pm
I was going to suggest it, but figured you had enough work on your hands.

But you know where to go if you need help on new rank design ideas. Very Happy
Ghost Rider103 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:12 am
OK now you're talking! Very Happy

Don't know whether I may make a suggestion but I prefer the traditional Frihost shields. This one was my favourite one:



I would be very happy if I could have a similar one with a similar but obviously not the exact same shield. I also fancy the rank of Frihost Knight.

Example:

That would make me very happy. Angel
deanhills on Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:27 pm
Frihost knight is too simple and doesn't sound like on top of elite frihoster or someone who has 15000 posts. I suggest something like Frihost Dragoon or Frihost Imperial Knight .

Other suggestions:
Frihost Guardian, Frihost General, Legendary Frihoster, Frihost Warrior, Master Frihoster.

I also agree with the sheild. But I suggest some different shape. Something that looks awesome like these:

And maybe put a phoenix or a unicorn at the center. Red and gold for phoenix or green and white for unicorn.

I guess this means we won't be seeing an Elite Frihoster for some years huh? There's Blaster I think who's already have 5000 posts but he's gone missing again since last month.
loremar on Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:52 pm
How about calling it "The Dean"
truespeed on Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:44 am
hahaha. Hopefully not. I'm going to make 15000 posts....

Uhm, after 15 years. LOL
loremar on Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:56 am
I was trying to think of something that worked well with being "higher than elite", but have been coming up kinda flat for something that sounds cool, as well as imparting a higher status than "the best in a group or society".
Ankhanu on Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:10 am
Truespeed. How about Saint Dean? Haha ....

OK Loremar, I guess better not. I kind'a like the idea of a Knighthood at 15,000 posts. That should be something that fits any person who gets to the number. Very Happy

Thanks Ankhanu. I thought Knight had a nice ring to it. I did quite a number of searches yesterday and that sort of just popped into my head. This has me quite excited now. Cool
deanhills on Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:47 pm
Knight does sound fun, I agree... but it's kinda lower tier nobility, ya know?
In the end, I suppose it doesn't matter, it's just a name, after all.
Ankhanu on Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:21 pm
Ankhanu wrote:
In the end, I suppose it doesn't matter, it's just a name, after all.

Agreed!
deanhills on Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:27 pm
I think the best suggestion was "The Dean" with a shield of your choice. Shoot, you are in a category all by yourself, and it would be cool to see frihost come together an honor that!

I vote that "The Dean" rank be created and only applies to users named Deanhills who hit 15,000 posts. Sorry, others can duplicate 15,000 posts, but there is but one Dean! Smile



You can put this where the shield goes, when I reach 15,000 posts sometime in late 2099, and create the Court Jester rank! Smile

Minus 51 and counting, Dean!
IceCreamTruck on Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:28 pm
Thanks ICT! Just reached forty and counting!

2099. Can you imagine Frihost then! Would be interesting if we could do time travel and see where we will be by then.
deanhills on Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:37 pm
Post number 15,000. Wonder what is going to happen when I click the submit button. Plenty of psychedelic lights going off, music playing, fire works and fun. Or just as enjoyable some nice posts in the "Please Hijack this topic" or "Epic Fail Day" threads. Anyway. Life's probably going to be the same after hitting the button and that is great as well. Viva Frihost! Long live Bondings! Thanks for consistent great Website space and being patient with all of us. Thanks for being the one Host that has survived no matter what. Long live all of the dedicated users of this Forum.

Beers to everyone:


Also a special welcome to Evil_Daddy. Perhaps we should recommend to Bondings that you be made our official Frihost Mascot. Hope to see many more of your quality posts.

Muahahaha .....
deanhills on Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:12 pm
Impressive work, sir!
Ankhanu on Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:13 pm
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Beers to everyone:

Now you are talking!!!
standready on Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:03 pm
Congrats deanhills with the 15.000 posts. Like Ankhanu said, it is quite impressive. Smile
adri on Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:07 pm
Congratulations dean! 15k posts is really epic. Very Happy
Bondings on Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:15 pm
Congratulations on the 15k post! That is quite impressive, especially in the short amount of time you have been a member of Frihost. Short amount of time compared to the mass of your post count anyways.

I'm only just barely creeping up on 3k and I'm quite close. Something I've looked forward to since last year. Razz

We should definitely be putting a new rank in the works!
Ghost Rider103 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:00 pm
Thanks GhostRider.
deanhills on Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:43 pm
Oh, I missed it.
Hope it's still not too late to congratulate you Dean? Congrats. Very Happy
Too bad there's no surprise. Wink
hmmm......


Now what? Very Happy
loremar on Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:09 pm
Never too late to hear from you Loremar! Thanks.
deanhills on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:00 am
Mother of Posts...
good god, I'm struggling to get to a 1000 posts and you just hit 15000 Posts
congrats Dean "the rock" Wink
Marcuzzo on Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:32 am
Thanks Marcuzzo! Don't know how I got there. Sort of just added up. Very Happy
deanhills on Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:11 pm
Congratulations deanhills, quite a milestone there... I have a fair lot of posting to do if I want to even think about catching up.
GuidanceReader on Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:12 am
Thanks Guidance. Nice to see you posting. Very Happy
deanhills on Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:18 pm
Well looks like there really is another rank, according to Bondings in his latest featured topic.

Razz
Ghost Rider103 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:25 pm
Muahahaha ....

deanhills on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:39 pm
hehehehehe...
loremar on Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:50 pm
Haha, a great one Loremar thanks! Twisted Evil
deanhills on Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:11 pm



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