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Collection of Dialogist "troll" posts No. 3




The famous "Dialogist is Pentangeli" Bikerman trial. During my research I became familiar with Pentangeli's style of writing and there is a very definite difference in style of writing:

Thread: My son joined a church

Bikerman wrote:
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Similar to Bikerman's recent hypothesis he proposed in a recent thread where he wa also losing an argument, that I am Pentangeli.

a) I was not 'losing the argument'.
b) I first proposed that you were Pentangeli to give you a chance to come clean and be honest. You didn't.
c) This username (Dialogist) posts mainly from one IP address. The IP address just happens to be the same IP address that the 'Pentangeli' user also mainly posted from. It may be possible to construct a legal defence against the charge of being one and the same, but the evidence is sufficiently strong for me to consider it proven.

Dialogist wrote:
The only problem with this hypothesis is that at home I use Tor and at work (where I mainly post from) I use the AOL network. My ip, while static is funneled through a dynamic telenet mask to use the IP address and domain that AOL provide. I don't mind so much about privacy because it's not my privacy you have access to. Empirically, I share that IP address with approx 25 million people in the US, not counting the UK and Ireland. Anecdotely, I am preemptively banned from a lot of message forums I have never visited and when I first registered at PayPal, they told me I had been blacklisted. When I contacted support they informed me of all of the above and asked me to use a different computer, which I now do, or Tor. You can maybe consider this your Cambrian explosion.

Bikerman wrote:
Completely untrue.
The IP address which you have posted from is NOT shared by '25 million people in the US'. Please don't make the mistake of believing you are talking to internet newbies - I lecture in computer networking. The IP address you post from is registered to a particular area and is probably used as a 'pool' address for DHCP assignment by the particular ISP/region. As such it may be shared by a few hundred individuals in the same area. If that were the only evidence available it would mean that you were geographically within the same town or city as Pentangeli. The chances of that alone are pretty remote, and when you add to that the fact that the only reason I checked is that I already suspected you were the same poster - that is pretty conclusive.
|t isn't, however, the only evidence. I'm not going to go into details, but suffice it to say that I learned a bit more than how to obtain an IP address in many years of working on networks.
You ARE Pentangeli, or you are using the same computer as used by the same.

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Although it apparently did not look that way, I am quite well versed in the rules of privacy on the Internet but thanks for all the refreshers. [.... refer above ....].

We routinely check IP addresses - it is the way we ensure that people do not 'double register'. In this case I was perfectly justified in doing so, but doubly so, because the user Pentangeli was banned for offensive/abusive posting.
I gave Dialogist the chance to come clean because I saw that he was posting in a less offensive manner, and I would have been tempted to push for him to be allowed to continue, despite the flagrant breach of TOS, had he admitted the deception.

Dialogist wrote:
I was aware of your computing tutoring, I actually thought you were more advanced that that pool (lan/router) reply though. Even if that were true, we'd be using the same IP area as AOL inc without either of us having to visit Ireland or America where they are mostly based. As far as I know, Pentangeli is of Italian descent while I am of Irish stock. Pentangeli is also about 30 years older than me.

But hey, ("you ARE pentangeli") - thanks for the fair hearing. Never let it be said that freedom of trial is dead in this country. Confirmation bias aside for a minute (I know that's like asking you to speak in tongues) assuming that honesty is freely submitting worthless, irrelevant, extraneous information, and dishonesty is simply withholding truths, how about we hear exactly why Pentangeli was banned? On what grounds and by what violations of TOS. And whether or not personal dislike came into play issuing bogus warnings and to flamebait a passionate response designed to oil the wheels of 'justice' just like this seems to be. Being that we're all the beacon of honesty up in here and all.

And if you're about to ban me for a 'double register', remember, it's only because you strongly dislike me (hate me) unlike "Anna" right? Or is honesty subject to peer review too? I ain't Pentangeli. I told deanhills in my first week posting here that I wasn't Pentangeli. I could really care less if you believe me or not. You don't even believe in God. So if I'm comparing me with the anointed one, go ahead and crucify me upside down. My words here have been Godly. I have defended morality and goodness to the hilt and kowtowed to neither pagan nor idol for popularity or affability. My conscience is clean and I'm all heart and soul, brother.

Bikerman wrote:
Dialogist wrote:
I was aware of your computing tutoring, I actually thought you were more advanced that that pool (lan/router) reply though.
I am
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Even if that were true, we'd be using the same IP area as AOL inc without either of us having to visit Ireland or America where they are mostly based.
Nope, wrong again.
The IP address concerned is not an AOL proxy IP, it is an NTL cable-modem IP which is allocated as part of a particular DHCP range for users in a specific geographic region of the UK.
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As far as I know, Pentangeli is of Italian descent while I am of Irish stock. Pentangeli is also about 30 years older than me.
And you would know this because? As I said, you are either Pentangeli or you use the same computer/ISP connection.
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But hey, ("you ARE pentangeli") - thanks for the fair hearing. Never let it be said that freedom of trial is dead in this country.
You are not entitled to a 'fair hearing' - though I have chosen to give you one via this thread.
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Confirmation bias aside for a minute (I know that's like asking you to speak in tongues) assuming that honesty is freely submitting worthless, irrelevant, extraneous information, and dishonesty is simply withholding truths, how about we hear exactly why Pentangeli was banned? On what grounds and by what violations of TOS.
We do not discuss individual decisions but it is fair to say that Pentangeli sent abusive messages to members of the moderation team (not me, btw).
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And whether or not personal dislike came into play issuing bogus warnings and to flamebait a passionate response designed to oil the wheels of 'justice' just like this seems to be. Being that we're all the beacon of honesty up in here and all.
No it didn't come into play at all.
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And if you're about to ban me for a 'double register', remember, it's only because you strongly dislike me (hate me) unlike "Anna" right?
I don't 'hate' you - you are not worth that amount of emotional expenditure.
By 'Anna' I presume you mean Indi's partner? If so then Anna does not post using Indi's account since it was pointed-out that it was against the TOS. We do not ban users without good reason - Pentangeli provided more than ample such reason.
(rest of religious rant snipped).




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