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A lot of people are wondering what those mysterious new Coins are. I guess the time has finally come to explain it a bit more in detail.

Coins are the new currency on Frihost, next to the points and the Frih$.

The points were used for the minimum activity required for a hosting account and had a maximum of 45. If you had more than 45 points and where hosted, your points were reset to 45 every day. The extra points simply disappeared.

The Coins are used to give those disappeared points a meaning. Instead of the points disappearing, they are now converted to Coins. Since not-hosted members might also need Coins, the process is the same for them too.

At the moment the Coins are calculated as (points above 45)^0.6 . However, this formula may change. The more points you have above 45, the more Coins you'll get at the end of the day. But if you spread them more even over several days, you'll get more Coins for the same amount of posts. This should discourage sudden bursts of posts and encourage regular posting.

What will they be used for? At the moment of writing this, you can exchange 350 Coins for a free top level domain name. This amount will most likely change a lot, not only because I'm not sure yet what the optimal value is, but also due to promotions and similar.

Other ways to earn and Coins are planned and will hopefully be added soon. To name a few:
-Prizes for competitions.
-Rewards for good posts/topics.
-I am planning to create a few flash games for Frihost and the Coins will be used for access to certain features. On the other hand, some Coins might be earned for winners of the games.

About trading/exchanging Coins; at the moment it isn't enabled, but I might enable it in a while if there is a lot of demand and there aren't many downsides to it.

Finally, what will happen to the Frih$? The bad news is that I'm planning to stop the earning of new Frih$ soon as they will be replaced more or less by the new Coins. The good news is that the currently earned Frih$ will remain there and a lot of the new uses of the Coins will also be possible with Frih$, like the Frihost games. So they will have new uses, only earning them will be stopped.



72 blog comments below

mystery over. sounds good though, i just hope 350 isnt too easilly attainable and makes frihost go bust Razz
Nemesis234 on Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:21 pm
@Nemesis234, I'm also hoping that it will cause a lot more (and better) posts and attract some new users. Of course if it's too easily reached, I'll have to increase the number of Coins required.
Bondings on Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:29 pm
I think 350 coins is going to be a good start point to exchange them for a domain. It's going to be difficult, but of course it's like getting a free domain, so it definitely shouldn't be easy.

However, there are already a few members who are close to 100 coins, so I may be wrong. It might be a good idea to put a limit on the amount each user can purchase a domain every year. For example, only one domain purchase per 12 months.

I think it would be a good idea to update the home page of Frihost with very detailed guidelines on all the new information. As new users may not find this blog post and will be confused on what the coins are for and may never even know they can purchase a domain for coins.
Ghost Rider103 on Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:48 pm
Ghost Rider103 made an excellent point here. The index page of the site has not a lot of information on it and when a new users arrives here, they might have some difficulties on what all those coin and points and other stuffs mean. Time has come to make a drastic change to the main page.
metalfreek on Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:41 am
No more Frih$? I guess that makes them somewhat more special and can be seen as a status symbol Wink
Peterssidan on Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:21 am
Thanks for the info Bondings. I have two enquiries:

Regarding the Frih$ that you are thinking of stopping. They are of course the closest gauge of the points that have been earned in excess of 45 to date. Would it be possible to exchange those into coins on a formula basis when they are discontinued? As it would be a shame to lose them without some form of credit in return when it is being replaced by a different system. Some of us also worked for some of the Frih$ in providing services to others.

Secondly, hopefully I have this wrong and I would be grateful if you could correct me if I do. How I interpret your measure to catch out those who may "spam" to get more coins, is that we would need to "peg" a number of points within a certain range, in order to earn coins optimally? I would hate to do that. Given that there are never the exact number of postings available to make within each session, nor the exact same size postings to make. Wouldn't that result in punishment of those who would post say at a regular much higher number and being absent now and then, or a variable number far over 45 that is never the same? If you look into the history of my number of postings for example, being a consistent high volume poster, I post as much as is available to post, and that can be anything from 55 to 90 or even more points depending on what is available to post, never a frequent number that is exactly the same. I don't post for number of points, more for what is available to post and my postings can be shorter or longer depending on what I have to say.

I would much more prefer to have a transparent formula that is available to everyone equally on a basis of openness and trust. If someone abuses that trust by making obvious spam postings, then that person be punished directly rather than set a trap that may create a negative impact on those that the trap is not aimed at.
deanhills on Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:42 pm
I'll clarify a few things.

First, this isn't the end of Frih$. They will still be used for a lot of new things, like the games. Only the new earning of Frih$ will (most likely) be stopped. There won't be an exchange of Frih$ for Coins, though.

Secondly, there isn't a measure for spam. What I meant to say is to explain the calculation of the Coins and its effects. They are calculated by the points above 45 (each day) to the power of 0.6. And the actual calculation might change later on. Maybe it's easier to give an example:
46 points: 1^0.6 = 1
48 points: 3^0.6 = 1.93318204
50 points: 5^0.6 = 2.6265278
55 points: 10^0.6 = 3.98107171

So what I meant to say is that if you make a huge amount of posts on the same day and then nothing for the rest of the week, it will earn less Coins than if it is spread over the whole week more evenly.
Like 3 days with 46 points: 3*(1^0.6)=3 Coins vs 1 day with 48 points: 3^0.6=1.93 Coins.
But the more points you get, the more Coins you get. It's just that regular posting will earn more than one day a lot.

However, if Coins are awarded for good posts, it won't matter when they were posted, only the quality will matter.
Bondings on Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:06 pm
I don't think removing the ability to earn Frih$ is a bad thing. They were very rarely used, so fixing the amount in circulation could make the flow of Frih$ far more interesting. As for the addition of Coins... brilliant idea Bondings. Offering domains for Frih$ is quite a ridiculous thing to do given the distribution. Coins you actually have to be active for, put in more than just a token effort every now and then.
Fire Boar on Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:22 pm
Well, this is one of those times I wish I had a better memory for the math classes I sat through in school. Thanks for the breakdown of how ^0.6 actually works. -_-;
quex on Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:54 am
Thanks for the detailed explanation Bondings. Think Quex put it very well for me too. I wish I were a bit better equipped with stats abilities. Thanks for all the hard work and effort as well. All of it is much appreciated.
deanhills on Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:55 am
wow. I better work harder then...
epspk on Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:32 pm
Good to know, I also have been wondering what the coins were for.

I don't know how many coins I am going to make as I am lucky to stay above 0 at the moment. Maybe I will have to post more to get me some points.
Ghost900 on Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:55 pm
A .com domain for 1 year costs $ 1,17 at Godaddy when the code FALL99 is used. This means that when there are gift cards available for $ 1,17 like as a kind of promotion of the coins a free domain name with .com can be offered for 35 coins.
zeda on Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:40 am
@Zeda: Domains will not be offered for 35 coins.
Ghost Rider103 on Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:10 am
"About trading/exchanging Coins; at the moment it isn't enabled, but I might enable it in a while if there is a lot of demand and there aren't many downsides to it. "
Sounds great to me....enabling of coin trade shouldn't have significant downsides. Limiting the amount of exchangeable coins, should help keep things in check. Twisted Evil
TeamChrome on Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:35 pm
thank you for the informative note.
Abhishukla on Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:43 pm
Fantastic, this really it's a very very very nice feature Very Happy
alvarorojas4 on Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:38 am
You created great features again, thanks so much.
the-guide on Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:30 am
I love the new features. I better quit lurking so much and start posting now. I don't think i'd ever post enough to get enough coins for a domain though, lol!
driftingfe3s on Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:11 am
@driftingfe3s: You have been lurking a lot. Only 800 posts since 2005 and yet you're still here? Way to go for sticking around for so long though!

Just get your points back up to 45 and then just try to at least post on a daily basis if not every few days. You may not achieve 350 coins very quickly, but if you can at least manage to keep your points at 45, I'm sure you'll get there someday.
Ghost Rider103 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:11 pm
Very nice. Thank you!
mgeek on Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:20 pm
That's why i love frihost its all here from hosting to free domains.
airh3ad on Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:51 am
These coins look really interesting, nice one for bringing these out. I've been away for a while as my points minus shows though so I think I'll concentrate on getting back into credit before coveting those shiny gold discs! Very Happy
watersoul on Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:12 pm
thanks for the information
tamilparks on Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:54 am
Frih$: 470.90, Coins: 0.00
After stop earning Fri,I hope the score will be change to Coins.
spring567 on Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:31 am
spring567 wrote:
Frih$: 470.90, Coins: 0.00
After stop earning Fri,I hope the score will be change to Coins.


Your only start acquiring coins when you reach 45+ points.
truespeed on Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:01 am
350 coins for a free TLD name... that's sound good.., but it's harder to collect 350 coins... Sad
mcqquestions on Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:23 pm
yippee, I'm finally in the positive points! now I have a chance at these coins!!
speeDemon on Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:09 am
ypieeee
skz_707 on Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:13 pm
If you have no coins and wants to earn 350 coins to get a domain in one day you need to get 17428 points. That's a lot of posts Wink So better split it up over a few days Very Happy
Peterssidan on Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:13 pm
Quote:
If you have no coins and wants to earn 350 coins to get a domain in one day you need to get 17428 points. That's a lot of posts So better split it up over a few days



Ha ha ha. That is true. Time to start posting, slow and steady. Laughing
FunDa on Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:32 am
hi.....somebody will can to ask in portuguese.
lando20 on Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:00 am
merhaba ben yeni geldim
I'm speraktif xDD
speraktif on Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:54 pm
hope i can have 350 coins to avail this.. look forward for this Smile
decent_31bs on Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:58 pm
Will be fantastic if also the coins can be used for More bandwith or Space in the Hosting... Very Happy
alvarorojas4 on Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:26 pm
Yeah, actually, I was meaning to ask about that... Are there any other planned uses for coins, or is there only purpose the domain stuff? After all, those with domains already wouldn't have anything to use their coins on.
wombatrpgs on Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:32 am
We could trade Frih$ fro Coins. I have 1.7 grand of Frih$ and don't know what it is for.
FunDa on Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:34 am
I think 350 coins is a good start. It may be difficult to reach but the number of posts u make would be worth it because u will get your very own domain. That's pretty cool. Can't wait to get my own domain.
dapopeyoh on Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:42 pm
honestly to be able to earn a coin one really have to post continiously. Well, i believe its something achievable and i aim to achieving that.
uchejohn on Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:02 pm
Yes! My race to 350 coins has now begun. I just hope I won't run out of items to post because 350 coins is a very long way up. But it certainly worth a domain.
dapopeyoh on Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:24 pm
approximatey how many times we have to post to reach this 350 coins mark
abhinavgakhar on Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:41 pm
do the points above 45 which get converted into coins is only valid for 1 day...and next day we have to start from beginning is that soo......we would be able to continue with same no of coins and points the next day..
abhinavgakhar on Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:46 pm
please reply to the above two posts Smile
abhinavgakhar on Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:47 pm
Here I understand it! The site administration does more and more new possibilities for the participants Very Happysuper hosting you have Cool
kasoff on Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:27 pm
my mind predicts it is just a way to encourage people to keep their points above and the downside is you cant accumulate points but anyways , hosting accounts are not cancelled for now
mahirh on Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:02 pm
abhinavgakhar: Each post is minimum one point, so if you posted 400 times in one day, I guess you'd have the minimum number.
wombatrpgs on Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:53 am
@wombatrpgs
which will also mean a lot of spamming to get rid of and frihost could even go bankrupt through this because frihost does not even have ads and i dont think a human could even write 4 paragraphs of post * 40 times a day
mahirh on Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:06 pm
Sounds great, Firh$'s were always very abstract to me.
zbale on Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:28 am
Very Happy I am looking forward to working with php
Cosmosphere on Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:54 pm
@mahirh: That is actually incorrect, Frihost actually does have ads.

If you go into a thread, scroll all the way down and you will see some Google ads. Also, if you are not registered (or just not logged in) you will see a lot more ads on the website.

Also, not ever point above 45 is worth one coin. Here is a quote from Bondings describing how the system works:
Bondings wrote:
Maybe it's easier to give an example:
46 points: 1^0.6 = 1
48 points: 3^0.6 = 1.93318204
50 points: 5^0.6 = 2.6265278
55 points: 10^0.6 = 3.98107171

So what I meant to say is that if you make a huge amount of posts on the same day and then nothing for the rest of the week, it will earn less Coins than if it is spread over the whole week more evenly.
Like 3 days with 46 points: 3*(1^0.6)=3 Coins vs 1 day with 48 points: 3^0.6=1.93 Coins.
But the more points you get, the more Coins you get. It's just that regular posting will earn more than one day a lot.
Ghost Rider103 on Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:48 am
Searching for constantly trying to get free service in doing what I can gather 350 points.
lebregon on Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:40 am
To collect the points scoring system ηalışıyprum still did not understand much.
lebregon on Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:41 am
wow, i think it is going to be a bit difficult getting 350 coins. the no. of posts you have to make is quite much. i hope i will get there because i really would like to have a free domain.
omale55 on Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:04 am
Hmm.... It looks like bit hard!!!
cmhcjj on Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:28 am
Looking forward to receive my first coins. Smile It will take some time before I get the 350 coins (porbably months!) but on the other hand I don't really need a domainname because I don't need a website. Smile

Sad thing about the frih$ though. Sad


adri
adri on Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:39 pm
Laughing In Bangladesh Comilla is famous for a school HUSSAMIA HIGH SCHOOL.But can't find out any site for a free domain to build web site.
hussamiahighschool on Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:45 pm
Very Nice thanks Am gonne Tell My friends Razz
thisdaddy on Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:52 am
For a lot of people a domain would be great but for me is not needed.
Already have a domain name but before taking hosting will need a lot of practise building and keep it up to date. Thats why my choise was this website and who knows what the future will bring with hosting here as well.
robinio_1965 on Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:58 pm
kinda cewl, people are getting free webhosting and such (domains) by posting posts :p
kinda cewl aint it?:p

well thank you for this, and i also hope im gaining 350 coins fast :p
watertube on Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:50 pm
It's a good idea if frihost.com will create games to generation more points and coins. I'm sure, lot of internet users will use this website because people loves to play games. In their part, they enjoy playing and they will have a chance to have their own top level domains. If this happens, I will play more to have top level domain because I need it. I will also use your domain for free web hosting because your domain is clean, no annoying advertisements. I will recommend your domain for your good work!
jmfernandez on Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:47 pm
Thanks bondings for all these information, I now understand about the coins and points. I was very much confused with them before. Thanks a lot.
therimalaya on Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:32 pm
Ok now i understand what coins are but i still could not understand for what purpose points are given and how to use them. Please tell more about points.
funyug on Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:25 am
Points are given to maintain your hosting,if you let your points slip below - 5 then you will receive a reminder email to tell you that you need to stay active on the forums.

You can earn up to 5 points per post so it is easy to keep your points up and your hosting account,at the end of each day if your points are over 45,they will be re-set to 45,also your point tally decreases by 1 every day,this is done to ensure you are always active on the forums.

having said all that ,yiu can get your points up to 45 and not have to worry about posting again for 6 weeks as it will take that long for them to reach "0" again.
truespeed on Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:40 am
Why do points decrease
funyug on Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:01 am
Because if they didn't you would never need to post on the forums again to retain your hosting,the decreasing points ensure you keep posting to keep your hosting.
truespeed on Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:39 am
I mean what is the logic for the decrement of points. I mean how are points decreased and increased
funyug on Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:58 am
I have just explained,maybe not clearly enough,the logic is to keep you active on the forums,this is post for host,you keep posting to keep your hosting,you pay one point per day for your hosting.
truespeed on Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:02 am
Points are decremented by one for each day you have a site hosted here.
wombatrpgs on Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:44 pm
thank you guys for the information..!! have been searching this for a long while..!
andro_king on Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:20 pm
The truth seems to me a little hard to collect the 350 coins, but maybe in the future with some constancy could be a reality.
hitose on Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:22 pm
is not hard it took to me 4 months, and i exchange for the doman, now i have 646 coins
mazito on Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:09 am
Well, it depends a lot on the time difference between your posts...
wombatrpgs on Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:20 am



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