Anyone here in a hockey pool? It would be great to start discussing some trades to get everyone's opinions...
Hockey pools
Nobody? Nobody in a hockey pool? C'moooonnnn... this would be a most excellent way to keep our frihost dollars above -10! 
I just completed this trade in my keeper pool:
i gave up:
Henrik Sedin
Patrick Sharp
jose Theodore
for
Jason Spezza
1st round draft pick
Alex Auld (to be punted from my roster)
Thoughts?
I just completed this trade in my keeper pool:
i gave up:
Henrik Sedin
Patrick Sharp
jose Theodore
for
Jason Spezza
1st round draft pick
Alex Auld (to be punted from my roster)
Thoughts?
We also have a farm team in our hockey pool. Here's my farm:
Backstrom, Nicklas C WAS Hoseheads
Carle, Mathieu D MON Hoseheads
Dalpe, Zac C/RW CAR Hoseheads
Deschamps, Nicolas C ANA Hoseheads
Doughty, Drew D LAK Hoseheads
Filatov, Nikita LW CBJ Hoseheads
Hamill, Zach C BOS Hoseheads
Johnson, Jack D LAK Hoseheads
Moller, Oscar LW LAK Hoseheads
Pavelski, Joe C SJS Hoseheads
Purcell, Teddy RW LAK Hoseheads
Russell, Kris D CBJ Hoseheads
Ryan, Bobby RW ANA Hoseheads
Tlusty, Jiri C/W TOR Hoseheads
ignore the "Hoseheads", that's just my team name...
thoughts?
Backstrom, Nicklas C WAS Hoseheads
Carle, Mathieu D MON Hoseheads
Dalpe, Zac C/RW CAR Hoseheads
Deschamps, Nicolas C ANA Hoseheads
Doughty, Drew D LAK Hoseheads
Filatov, Nikita LW CBJ Hoseheads
Hamill, Zach C BOS Hoseheads
Johnson, Jack D LAK Hoseheads
Moller, Oscar LW LAK Hoseheads
Pavelski, Joe C SJS Hoseheads
Purcell, Teddy RW LAK Hoseheads
Russell, Kris D CBJ Hoseheads
Ryan, Bobby RW ANA Hoseheads
Tlusty, Jiri C/W TOR Hoseheads
ignore the "Hoseheads", that's just my team name...
thoughts?
Great post over at Dobber on stages of your hockey pool team.
For those of us in Keeper Leagues it is about this time of year that we begin to get a general feel for what direction our team might be headed in. Are we for real and need to just make a few tweaks for veteran pickups, or are we looking at a long season followed up by a high draft pick?
My own personal take on fantasy hockey is that it's either first place or bust. Second place in my books is just as bad as dead last and so it's either a case of going for it or rewriting the books and trying to build for the next year instead. In my mind a keeper team is in one of a few stages and the way an owner needs to approach the season is very dependant on which stage they are at.
1) Going for It! - I think it's safe to say that this is everyone's favorite stage to be in as all others are geared towards trying to achieve this point. Your team is stocked up and ready to go for the gold. There might be one or two other teams who are in contention with you and your mission is to do everything possible to win now. Often times during this stage it is a constant jockeying between 2-3 teams as they haggle and deal with some of the "have nots" in the league, swapping out picks and prospects for older guys who might not factor too much into the keeper picture but will give you that edge needed to win it all.
If you are in this stage then I can't stress this enough - Go For It! If you need to overpay with some higher end prospects in order to pick up a guy like Alfredsson then you do it. If your only weak point is goaltending and that's the last piece that will put you over the top and win you the league then yes you do give up Bernier to acquire that one last veteran goalie that you need to win. The point of these leagues is to place first. Remember that often you will be competing against one or two other owners who will want to do the same thing. Sometimes giving up an extra 2nd round pick on top of whatever the other guy is offering will be what gets the deal done for you and even if it's going to hurt you, you do it. Sitting on a bundle of talent and being afraid to trade some of your young talent away only to end up in second or third place is one of the worst fantasy hockey mistakes an owner can make.
In salary cap leagues I will try and pick up guys who have good contracts for this year but will be easier to pick up because they will be starting a bigger extension the following year. A guy like Horcoff is a good example for this year as his salary is not too bad, but he has the potential to put you over the top with some good production. He will also be a little easier to obtain because his contract is going to make him almost unownable next season.
2) Just One More Year - This is always a tough spot to be in. You're sitting in about 4-7th spot in a league, you have some decent talent and some young guys who are almost there but perhaps not quite ready to give you the production needed to win you the league this year. It's at this stage that lots of people will suddenly decide to rebuild and most of the time it's a mistake. How I approach this depends on the league setup.
In a salary cap league I like to target guys who have salaries dropping, or are going to have good consistent salaries for a few years. I like guys like Ribeiro or Morrow since you know what to expect from them, and they won't kill you with their salaries over the next few years. Doing some digging through websites like nhlnumbers.com is a great way to find out those guys who will likely have good contracts for their production down the road. Ales Hemsky is another guy who would have been excellent to pick up a year or two ago when people were complaining about his value and his salary didn't look like the steal that it now is. It takes some GM savvy to try and pinpoint these guys and it's certainly work, but that's what it takes with an awkward middling team like this.
In a league that doesn't take salary into account it's a bit more difficult. In general it's just a case of trying to take advantage of players who are really struggling over the course of a season. It will involve taking risks. Looking back, it's easy to say that Marleau would have been a perfect candidate for this last year but it's a much tougher question to figure out who that might be this year. At this point you'd be watching players like Roy, A Kostitsyn, maybe a guy like Wolski. Generally it will be 3/4 of the way through the year or later before you can really pinpoint these types of players and they will need to be playing bad enough that people think they are done. VERY tough to do but it's how you'll make up ground for the next year.
In my mind this is the toughest spot to be in as it will take some research and some luck to find the right players to acquire before the following season.
3) Tear it Down - It seems to me that way too many teams are quick to rebuild, and it turns into a perpetual cycle of never being happy enough with your team and constantly shuffling things around. GMs that do this almost never win anything and are always waiting for the next set of prospects to come along to fill their roster.
Generally a team that is ready for a rebuild is one that has been fairly successful for one or two years in a row and has emptied the team of a lot of its future and younger players in order to win, but now has lost the horses needed to keep up the momentum. You'll find yourself slipping down the rankings and most of your guys are on the downside of the potential scale. At this point you become one of the "have nots" and need to start working the phone lines with the Go For It guys to try and convince them that you have THE player needed to put them over the top.
At this point there are a few things to avoid. One is making trades which make your team younger but not necessarily better. Trading away Milan Hejduk and getting TJ Oshie back is not a good way to rebuild your team. It's a good way to have a young but bad team. A better way is to trade Hejduk away for TJ Oshie and 2 draft picks. This seems very obvious, but it is a very common mistake that I see people do (and have done myself at times...oops!) With young players and prospects you need to give yourself a buffer for the inevitable flops and busts that will end up happening.
Another thing to avoid is acquiring prospects who were drafted high but are not going to do much for your team - ie Marc Staal type defensemen. Two way players are great for real teams but often don't do a ton for fantasy teams. Sometimes we get it wrong in this assessment as well as I was someone who thought Toews was a guy who was overrated because of his two way game potential.
Another thing to keep in mind that I like to try and do is to try and line up the guys on my roster so that they will all generally hit their peak at about the same time, giving me the maximum amount of points available once the window opens up. In salary leagues however, this might not be possible since it could very well mean that all those players might be hitting their salary raises at the same time as well! At that point it can be a good strategy to keep a very close eye on contracts and try to stagger them as much as possible. Line up a few 5th and 6th year guys with some 3rd and 4th year guys and then insert a couple producing cheap rookies or sophomores and balance the salary as much as possible. I also have had some good success attempting to pick up young, cheap defencemen who will earn 30 points as opposed to 45 but will save a ton of salary cap space for those premium forwards who are really going to get you the points down the road. Last year it was guys like Enstrom who were mostly unheralded but gave good production. Often they can be picked up late in drafts or even as Free Agents in leagues. In leagues where multi-category stats are taken into account look for cheaper across the board picks. Success in fantasy basketball seems to be based on this a lot more then hockey but a few of the same principles apply.
It's my experience that most teams seem to fall into one of those 3 main categories, and your strategy for the year seems to really depend on where you're at there. The earlier in the year you can commit to a certain playing the style the better as you'll need every edge possible to beat out Cocky Bill from down the road who you just CAN'T STAND losing to.
I'm sure there's lots of other ideas on this and I'm wondering what others have experienced in this, or what some other strategies are when in these particular keeper league stages.
For those of us in Keeper Leagues it is about this time of year that we begin to get a general feel for what direction our team might be headed in. Are we for real and need to just make a few tweaks for veteran pickups, or are we looking at a long season followed up by a high draft pick?
My own personal take on fantasy hockey is that it's either first place or bust. Second place in my books is just as bad as dead last and so it's either a case of going for it or rewriting the books and trying to build for the next year instead. In my mind a keeper team is in one of a few stages and the way an owner needs to approach the season is very dependant on which stage they are at.
1) Going for It! - I think it's safe to say that this is everyone's favorite stage to be in as all others are geared towards trying to achieve this point. Your team is stocked up and ready to go for the gold. There might be one or two other teams who are in contention with you and your mission is to do everything possible to win now. Often times during this stage it is a constant jockeying between 2-3 teams as they haggle and deal with some of the "have nots" in the league, swapping out picks and prospects for older guys who might not factor too much into the keeper picture but will give you that edge needed to win it all.
If you are in this stage then I can't stress this enough - Go For It! If you need to overpay with some higher end prospects in order to pick up a guy like Alfredsson then you do it. If your only weak point is goaltending and that's the last piece that will put you over the top and win you the league then yes you do give up Bernier to acquire that one last veteran goalie that you need to win. The point of these leagues is to place first. Remember that often you will be competing against one or two other owners who will want to do the same thing. Sometimes giving up an extra 2nd round pick on top of whatever the other guy is offering will be what gets the deal done for you and even if it's going to hurt you, you do it. Sitting on a bundle of talent and being afraid to trade some of your young talent away only to end up in second or third place is one of the worst fantasy hockey mistakes an owner can make.
In salary cap leagues I will try and pick up guys who have good contracts for this year but will be easier to pick up because they will be starting a bigger extension the following year. A guy like Horcoff is a good example for this year as his salary is not too bad, but he has the potential to put you over the top with some good production. He will also be a little easier to obtain because his contract is going to make him almost unownable next season.
2) Just One More Year - This is always a tough spot to be in. You're sitting in about 4-7th spot in a league, you have some decent talent and some young guys who are almost there but perhaps not quite ready to give you the production needed to win you the league this year. It's at this stage that lots of people will suddenly decide to rebuild and most of the time it's a mistake. How I approach this depends on the league setup.
In a salary cap league I like to target guys who have salaries dropping, or are going to have good consistent salaries for a few years. I like guys like Ribeiro or Morrow since you know what to expect from them, and they won't kill you with their salaries over the next few years. Doing some digging through websites like nhlnumbers.com is a great way to find out those guys who will likely have good contracts for their production down the road. Ales Hemsky is another guy who would have been excellent to pick up a year or two ago when people were complaining about his value and his salary didn't look like the steal that it now is. It takes some GM savvy to try and pinpoint these guys and it's certainly work, but that's what it takes with an awkward middling team like this.
In a league that doesn't take salary into account it's a bit more difficult. In general it's just a case of trying to take advantage of players who are really struggling over the course of a season. It will involve taking risks. Looking back, it's easy to say that Marleau would have been a perfect candidate for this last year but it's a much tougher question to figure out who that might be this year. At this point you'd be watching players like Roy, A Kostitsyn, maybe a guy like Wolski. Generally it will be 3/4 of the way through the year or later before you can really pinpoint these types of players and they will need to be playing bad enough that people think they are done. VERY tough to do but it's how you'll make up ground for the next year.
In my mind this is the toughest spot to be in as it will take some research and some luck to find the right players to acquire before the following season.
3) Tear it Down - It seems to me that way too many teams are quick to rebuild, and it turns into a perpetual cycle of never being happy enough with your team and constantly shuffling things around. GMs that do this almost never win anything and are always waiting for the next set of prospects to come along to fill their roster.
Generally a team that is ready for a rebuild is one that has been fairly successful for one or two years in a row and has emptied the team of a lot of its future and younger players in order to win, but now has lost the horses needed to keep up the momentum. You'll find yourself slipping down the rankings and most of your guys are on the downside of the potential scale. At this point you become one of the "have nots" and need to start working the phone lines with the Go For It guys to try and convince them that you have THE player needed to put them over the top.
At this point there are a few things to avoid. One is making trades which make your team younger but not necessarily better. Trading away Milan Hejduk and getting TJ Oshie back is not a good way to rebuild your team. It's a good way to have a young but bad team. A better way is to trade Hejduk away for TJ Oshie and 2 draft picks. This seems very obvious, but it is a very common mistake that I see people do (and have done myself at times...oops!) With young players and prospects you need to give yourself a buffer for the inevitable flops and busts that will end up happening.
Another thing to avoid is acquiring prospects who were drafted high but are not going to do much for your team - ie Marc Staal type defensemen. Two way players are great for real teams but often don't do a ton for fantasy teams. Sometimes we get it wrong in this assessment as well as I was someone who thought Toews was a guy who was overrated because of his two way game potential.
Another thing to keep in mind that I like to try and do is to try and line up the guys on my roster so that they will all generally hit their peak at about the same time, giving me the maximum amount of points available once the window opens up. In salary leagues however, this might not be possible since it could very well mean that all those players might be hitting their salary raises at the same time as well! At that point it can be a good strategy to keep a very close eye on contracts and try to stagger them as much as possible. Line up a few 5th and 6th year guys with some 3rd and 4th year guys and then insert a couple producing cheap rookies or sophomores and balance the salary as much as possible. I also have had some good success attempting to pick up young, cheap defencemen who will earn 30 points as opposed to 45 but will save a ton of salary cap space for those premium forwards who are really going to get you the points down the road. Last year it was guys like Enstrom who were mostly unheralded but gave good production. Often they can be picked up late in drafts or even as Free Agents in leagues. In leagues where multi-category stats are taken into account look for cheaper across the board picks. Success in fantasy basketball seems to be based on this a lot more then hockey but a few of the same principles apply.
It's my experience that most teams seem to fall into one of those 3 main categories, and your strategy for the year seems to really depend on where you're at there. The earlier in the year you can commit to a certain playing the style the better as you'll need every edge possible to beat out Cocky Bill from down the road who you just CAN'T STAND losing to.
I'm sure there's lots of other ideas on this and I'm wondering what others have experienced in this, or what some other strategies are when in these particular keeper league stages.
Is there ANYONE that plays in a hockey pool?
What are your favourite sites for poolie info? I've got a few.
http://www.dobberhockey.com/ - Great for quick ranking check of players, and day by day news. Also, an excellent forum for advice.
http://www2.sportsnet.ca/blogs/chris_nichols/ - Chris Nichols' blog on sportsnet.ca. Excellent in that he recaps every single game and throws in fantasy advice as he goes.
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/ - Excellent source of info about prospects that you may know little about.
So, do tell, what are your secret sites?
What are your favourite sites for poolie info? I've got a few.
http://www.dobberhockey.com/ - Great for quick ranking check of players, and day by day news. Also, an excellent forum for advice.
http://www2.sportsnet.ca/blogs/chris_nichols/ - Chris Nichols' blog on sportsnet.ca. Excellent in that he recaps every single game and throws in fantasy advice as he goes.
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/ - Excellent source of info about prospects that you may know little about.
So, do tell, what are your secret sites?
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The long-term injury to Frans Nielsen could secure Bailey's spot in the lineup beyond the nine-game mark. Bailey has two points in six games and his 16:58 of ice time last night was the first time he topped 15 minutes.
The Dobber Nation Radio Show with Andrew Walker will appear on the 25th of every month here on DobberHockey. The upcoming edition will feature Washington Caps blogger J.P. from Japer's Rink, DobberHockey's goalie expert Justin Goldman, and a third guest to be named later. If you have any questions you would like answered about the Capitals (Nylander?) or goaltending (Ottawa?) that you would like answered on-air, send them to dobbernation@dobberhockey.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it We will also have a special email segment on the show - a sort of "free for all" to generate discussion on any fantasy hockey topic. So send any question or topic you would like to the above email address and we'll try and tackle it.
Curtis Sanford will get the start tomorrow, but if the Red Wings light him up, look for Cory Schneider to start the following game. This could go either way, but one of these goalies will be a dark horse over the next month.
Matt Lombardi played 13 minutes in his return to the CGY lineup last night. He was pointless and a minus-1
With Lombardi back, Dustin Boyd's ice slid below 10 minutes.
Mike Cammalleri played just 13:30 and was a minus-3. He could be moving his belongings into the doghouse that was vacated when Kristian Huselius left.
The evening after my article in The Hockey News touting the Sharks' offensive defensemen, Vlasic, Boyle and Blake combine for eight points and plus-8. Love it when that happens.
Over the next few days, the Preds will be deciding who will make up their top six. Currently, Peverley, Fiddler and even Joel Ward will get looks at the two open spots. But the team will be recalling one or two of: Pihlstrom, Jones and Hornqvist. In a 3-0 game Friday, Pihlstrom had two goals, Jones one, and Hornqvist got two assists - so all three seem to be quite eager.
Nikita Filatov has hit a bit of a wall. After posting eight points in four games, he has now gone pointless in six AHL contests. Call it a "character builder". Let's see how he responds.
Ben Eager has not had a PIM in four games, but he has three points in his last two. The last two games he has averaged 13 minutes of ice time. Prior to that, he had only played seven minutes or more just once. Joel Quenneville wants to see more offense and less penalties from him. If he listens, he could have a 35-point year and 180 penalty minutes. If not, he will see 15 points and 200 PIMs - but a lot fewer games.
The long-term injury to Frans Nielsen could secure Bailey's spot in the lineup beyond the nine-game mark. Bailey has two points in six games and his 16:58 of ice time last night was the first time he topped 15 minutes.
The Dobber Nation Radio Show with Andrew Walker will appear on the 25th of every month here on DobberHockey. The upcoming edition will feature Washington Caps blogger J.P. from Japer's Rink, DobberHockey's goalie expert Justin Goldman, and a third guest to be named later. If you have any questions you would like answered about the Capitals (Nylander?) or goaltending (Ottawa?) that you would like answered on-air, send them to dobbernation@dobberhockey.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it We will also have a special email segment on the show - a sort of "free for all" to generate discussion on any fantasy hockey topic. So send any question or topic you would like to the above email address and we'll try and tackle it.
Curtis Sanford will get the start tomorrow, but if the Red Wings light him up, look for Cory Schneider to start the following game. This could go either way, but one of these goalies will be a dark horse over the next month.
Matt Lombardi played 13 minutes in his return to the CGY lineup last night. He was pointless and a minus-1
With Lombardi back, Dustin Boyd's ice slid below 10 minutes.
Mike Cammalleri played just 13:30 and was a minus-3. He could be moving his belongings into the doghouse that was vacated when Kristian Huselius left.
The evening after my article in The Hockey News touting the Sharks' offensive defensemen, Vlasic, Boyle and Blake combine for eight points and plus-8. Love it when that happens.
Over the next few days, the Preds will be deciding who will make up their top six. Currently, Peverley, Fiddler and even Joel Ward will get looks at the two open spots. But the team will be recalling one or two of: Pihlstrom, Jones and Hornqvist. In a 3-0 game Friday, Pihlstrom had two goals, Jones one, and Hornqvist got two assists - so all three seem to be quite eager.
Nikita Filatov has hit a bit of a wall. After posting eight points in four games, he has now gone pointless in six AHL contests. Call it a "character builder". Let's see how he responds.
Ben Eager has not had a PIM in four games, but he has three points in his last two. The last two games he has averaged 13 minutes of ice time. Prior to that, he had only played seven minutes or more just once. Joel Quenneville wants to see more offense and less penalties from him. If he listens, he could have a 35-point year and 180 penalty minutes. If not, he will see 15 points and 200 PIMs - but a lot fewer games.
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The long-term injury to Frans Nielsen could secure Bailey's spot in the lineup beyond the nine-game mark. Bailey has two points in six games and his 16:58 of ice time last night was the first time he topped 15 minutes.
The Dobber Nation Radio Show with Andrew Walker will appear on the 25th of every month here on DobberHockey. The upcoming edition will feature Washington Caps blogger J.P. from Japer's Rink, DobberHockey's goalie expert Justin Goldman, and a third guest to be named later. If you have any questions you would like answered about the Capitals (Nylander?) or goaltending (Ottawa?) that you would like answered on-air, send them to dobbernation@dobberhockey.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it We will also have a special email segment on the show - a sort of "free for all" to generate discussion on any fantasy hockey topic. So send any question or topic you would like to the above email address and we'll try and tackle it.
Curtis Sanford will get the start tomorrow, but if the Red Wings light him up, look for Cory Schneider to start the following game. This could go either way, but one of these goalies will be a dark horse over the next month.
Matt Lombardi played 13 minutes in his return to the CGY lineup last night. He was pointless and a minus-1
With Lombardi back, Dustin Boyd's ice slid below 10 minutes.
Mike Cammalleri played just 13:30 and was a minus-3. He could be moving his belongings into the doghouse that was vacated when Kristian Huselius left.
The evening after my article in The Hockey News touting the Sharks' offensive defensemen, Vlasic, Boyle and Blake combine for eight points and plus-8. Love it when that happens.
Over the next few days, the Preds will be deciding who will make up their top six. Currently, Peverley, Fiddler and even Joel Ward will get looks at the two open spots. But the team will be recalling one or two of: Pihlstrom, Jones and Hornqvist. In a 3-0 game Friday, Pihlstrom had two goals, Jones one, and Hornqvist got two assists - so all three seem to be quite eager.
Nikita Filatov has hit a bit of a wall. After posting eight points in four games, he has now gone pointless in six AHL contests. Call it a "character builder". Let's see how he responds.
Ben Eager has not had a PIM in four games, but he has three points in his last two. The last two games he has averaged 13 minutes of ice time. Prior to that, he had only played seven minutes or more just once. Joel Quenneville wants to see more offense and less penalties from him. If he listens, he could have a 35-point year and 180 penalty minutes. If not, he will see 15 points and 200 PIMs - but a lot fewer games.
The long-term injury to Frans Nielsen could secure Bailey's spot in the lineup beyond the nine-game mark. Bailey has two points in six games and his 16:58 of ice time last night was the first time he topped 15 minutes.
The Dobber Nation Radio Show with Andrew Walker will appear on the 25th of every month here on DobberHockey. The upcoming edition will feature Washington Caps blogger J.P. from Japer's Rink, DobberHockey's goalie expert Justin Goldman, and a third guest to be named later. If you have any questions you would like answered about the Capitals (Nylander?) or goaltending (Ottawa?) that you would like answered on-air, send them to dobbernation@dobberhockey.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it We will also have a special email segment on the show - a sort of "free for all" to generate discussion on any fantasy hockey topic. So send any question or topic you would like to the above email address and we'll try and tackle it.
Curtis Sanford will get the start tomorrow, but if the Red Wings light him up, look for Cory Schneider to start the following game. This could go either way, but one of these goalies will be a dark horse over the next month.
Matt Lombardi played 13 minutes in his return to the CGY lineup last night. He was pointless and a minus-1
With Lombardi back, Dustin Boyd's ice slid below 10 minutes.
Mike Cammalleri played just 13:30 and was a minus-3. He could be moving his belongings into the doghouse that was vacated when Kristian Huselius left.
The evening after my article in The Hockey News touting the Sharks' offensive defensemen, Vlasic, Boyle and Blake combine for eight points and plus-8. Love it when that happens.
Over the next few days, the Preds will be deciding who will make up their top six. Currently, Peverley, Fiddler and even Joel Ward will get looks at the two open spots. But the team will be recalling one or two of: Pihlstrom, Jones and Hornqvist. In a 3-0 game Friday, Pihlstrom had two goals, Jones one, and Hornqvist got two assists - so all three seem to be quite eager.
Nikita Filatov has hit a bit of a wall. After posting eight points in four games, he has now gone pointless in six AHL contests. Call it a "character builder". Let's see how he responds.
Ben Eager has not had a PIM in four games, but he has three points in his last two. The last two games he has averaged 13 minutes of ice time. Prior to that, he had only played seven minutes or more just once. Joel Quenneville wants to see more offense and less penalties from him. If he listens, he could have a 35-point year and 180 penalty minutes. If not, he will see 15 points and 200 PIMs - but a lot fewer games.
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