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Do you think humans will become extinct ever?
Do you think humans will become extinct sometime? This question is debatable, since humans are different from other species in that they can improve the life expectancies and survival rates of individuals.
Taking this into account do you believe humans could potentially not become extinct if they can control the factors that lead to their extinction?
If you do think that humans will become extinct sometime, when do you extimate this would happen? Thousands, millions of years?
Thanks for you input!
Taking this into account do you believe humans could potentially not become extinct if they can control the factors that lead to their extinction?
If you do think that humans will become extinct sometime, when do you extimate this would happen? Thousands, millions of years?
Thanks for you input!
Sure. I think that it's perfectly possible for us to become extinct, and that it will probably happen (maybe in billions of years). The vast majority of species that have lived on this planet have become extinct. Besides, life cannot exist without the sun and the sun will eventually burn out.
To say that we would never go extinct is an extremely bold statement. After all, even the universe will eventually either collapse into itself for 'hot death', or slowly succumb to entropy until there is no usable energy left making for 'cold death'.
Could humanity survive either of those? Unlikely.
Will humans leave our solar system before the sun dies? I don't know, but that will probably be the deciding factor in how long the species lasts.
Another crucial point is weather we either leave the Earth, or make ourselves sustainable on it before it is ruined for life.
Of course, this all assumes that a rouge planetoid won't smash the Earth into tiny bits within a week...
Could humanity survive either of those? Unlikely.
Will humans leave our solar system before the sun dies? I don't know, but that will probably be the deciding factor in how long the species lasts.
Another crucial point is weather we either leave the Earth, or make ourselves sustainable on it before it is ruined for life.
Of course, this all assumes that a rouge planetoid won't smash the Earth into tiny bits within a week...
Its a good question,to which no one can know the answer for sure other than to say that humans are the only life form that has existed on earth that has the potential to move beyond this solar system and continue the species elsewhere.
Mans only downfall could be as ocalhoun said a natural disaster on a scale not seen since the dinosaurs,but even with something on that scale i still think there would be large pockets of survivors.
The only other thing that could cease our existence prematurely is man himself,with todays weaponary,wars have the potential to end all human life on earth.
Mans only downfall could be as ocalhoun said a natural disaster on a scale not seen since the dinosaurs,but even with something on that scale i still think there would be large pockets of survivors.
The only other thing that could cease our existence prematurely is man himself,with todays weaponary,wars have the potential to end all human life on earth.
Eventually it WILL happen, but most definitely not in OUR lifetime, so it's not really anything for us to worry about.
| J-Evil wrote: |
| Eventually it WILL happen, but most definitely not in OUR lifetime, so it's not really anything for us to worry about. |
You hope. ^_^;
Everything eventually comes to an end.
Yup, we'll become extinct, at some point... even if it's just a change in our species classification (I can't forsee a real speciation "event" going on under current conditions, but who knows what the future may bring).
we're a bubble that's going to burst i reckon.
B.
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| J-Evil wrote: |
| Eventually it WILL happen, but most definitely not in OUR lifetime, so it's not really anything for us to worry about. |
have you got family?
brothers sisters cousins - with kids?
maybe even you have KIDS????
or planning on having some
why don't you show THEM your reply.
in my mind its exacly selfish people with this attitude that's gonna put an end to the human race.
look around you and see the mess we have made of our planet. and we carry on doing it inspite of the fact that we KNOW we are doing it.
call that responsible?
or just HUMAN NATURE
selfish
yep
that's US
cheers?
i think not
This is really a good question. I think there is a good possibility of extinction and probably sooner than what we think, but perhaps not in our lifetime. I just think about global warming and the north and southpole ice melting ..... probably science fiction thinking, but we are obviously burning too much oil, destroying our fresh air with pollution, too many people, too much production, too many wars and bombs going off. In the meanwhile I guess it is best just to enjoy the moments we have and when one thinks extinction it sort of makes our lives a little more precious for the moment of now. 
WHAT? ^_^;
Seriously: WHAT? "Our entire species is probably going to go extinct by our own hand pretty soon, but eh, ****** it. Let's just mellow out and have fun."
Do i even need to comment further? Or does someone else want to point out the flaws here?
Seriously: WHAT? "Our entire species is probably going to go extinct by our own hand pretty soon, but eh, ****** it. Let's just mellow out and have fun."
Do i even need to comment further? Or does someone else want to point out the flaws here?
| Indi wrote: |
| Our entire species is probably going to go extinct by our own hand pretty soon, |
Meh, an overreaction. Humans are as resilient and adaptive as cockroaches. We couldn't exterminate ourselves if we tried. So, why not enjoy the moment?
There is large possibility for human beings to become extinct.Day by day age of human is decreasing,I don't mean that age or period where due to medicines human being is able to live longer life.I mean to say overall age.Imbalance has occurred in nature due to which soon there may be scarcity of resources required for life on the earth.Lets hope for the best what we can do.
It's inevitable. No telling what will finally be the cause but I'd guess that the human race will die off well before other earth life. If we manage to get colonies going in space or other planets, we might be the last surviving earth life, however all it takes is a couple disease epidemics and *poof*.
Yes Most Definatley
Humans Will Become Extinct One Day And That In MY Mind Is Set.
Well Definatley On Earth Anyway. f The Human Race Will Expand To Live On Jupiter Or Some Unknown Planet I Am Not Sure.
Also I See This Opening Up A Series Of Questions Like Will We Find Humans On Other Planets or Aliens One Day Becase If A Planet Has Water And The Right Tempriture Then Bacteria Can Form And If Bacteria Can Form It Can Als Evolve And I personaly Do Not Belive That Earth Is The Only Planet With Living Things.
So Yes On Earth I Belive The Human Race Will Become Extinct.
Humans Will Become Extinct One Day And That In MY Mind Is Set.
Well Definatley On Earth Anyway. f The Human Race Will Expand To Live On Jupiter Or Some Unknown Planet I Am Not Sure.
Also I See This Opening Up A Series Of Questions Like Will We Find Humans On Other Planets or Aliens One Day Becase If A Planet Has Water And The Right Tempriture Then Bacteria Can Form And If Bacteria Can Form It Can Als Evolve And I personaly Do Not Belive That Earth Is The Only Planet With Living Things.
So Yes On Earth I Belive The Human Race Will Become Extinct.
there is no doubt in our extinction no matter where we are.
in physics point of view, everything around us slowly reaching maximum entrophy, in which case the universe, let alone earth, can no longer support human life as we know it.
of course, that is far into the future, if we somehow manage to escape our sun collapsing on itself for a nice and deadly supernova, and the nuclear war on earth before that.
in physics point of view, everything around us slowly reaching maximum entrophy, in which case the universe, let alone earth, can no longer support human life as we know it.
of course, that is far into the future, if we somehow manage to escape our sun collapsing on itself for a nice and deadly supernova, and the nuclear war on earth before that.
| kitsrock wrote: |
| there is no doubt in our extinction no matter where we are.
in physics point of view, everything around us slowly reaching maximum entrophy, in which case the universe, let alone earth, can no longer support human life as we know it. of course, that is far into the future, if we somehow manage to escape our sun collapsing on itself for a nice and deadly supernova, and the nuclear war on earth before that. |
Hmmm....a couple of points;
a) Entropy (not entrophy)
b) Our sun is not large enough to go supernova - it will become a Red Giant and then a White Dwarf. (That will still, of course, be fatal to anything left on Earth, and it is quite likely that Earth will be consumed completely during the Red Giant phase)...
Whoa, only 1 vote for no so far. Well I'd like to keep an optimistic attitude here. Considering the human race and technology will advance in the future, there is no reason that I see that the possibility of them never becoming extinct is less than them becoming extinct. Especially if technological advances as well as biological ones keep happening at the same rate that they have so far.
It has only been a relatively short time that we have even had science as we now know it in existence, and from that point, speeded up by the industrial revolution, advancements have taken hold at a very fast pace compared to the whole history of mankind. Of course this is also taking into considering if people want to pursue technology and biological advancements that will aid in humans surviving no matter what environmental consequence, which I have no doubts that some do.
It has only been a relatively short time that we have even had science as we now know it in existence, and from that point, speeded up by the industrial revolution, advancements have taken hold at a very fast pace compared to the whole history of mankind. Of course this is also taking into considering if people want to pursue technology and biological advancements that will aid in humans surviving no matter what environmental consequence, which I have no doubts that some do.
NEVER go extinct? Of course they will. If nothing else, the sun isn't unlimited. I'm not sure humans can take that on 
I will say we have a great chance at survival under the majority of terrible conditions simply because of our ability to invent, adapt, problem solve, critically think, etc. We stand a pretty good chance against most things in my opinion. But I'm pretty damn sure humans won't last forever. We're just another species and we have our weaknesses which will most likely lead to our downfall at some point.
I will say we have a great chance at survival under the majority of terrible conditions simply because of our ability to invent, adapt, problem solve, critically think, etc. We stand a pretty good chance against most things in my opinion. But I'm pretty damn sure humans won't last forever. We're just another species and we have our weaknesses which will most likely lead to our downfall at some point.
| liljp617 wrote: |
| NEVER go extinct? Of course they will. If nothing else, the sun isn't unlimited. I'm not sure humans can take that on
I will say we have a great chance at survival under the majority of terrible conditions simply because of our ability to invent, adapt, problem solve, critically think, etc. We stand a pretty good chance against most things in my opinion. But I'm pretty damn sure humans won't last forever. We're just another species and we have our weaknesses which will most likely lead to our downfall at some point. |
Well maybe by that time, they will have the means to go to another solar system or something.
| TBSC wrote: | ||
Well maybe by that time, they will have the means to go to another solar system or something. |
I have to take the question based upon the past and current reality.
It's always possible that we'll have the means to find somewhere else to live in the universe before our sun explodes (implodes). However, at the rate we're going, we can't even manage to take care of our own planet by destroying our natural resources and wrecking the ecosystems. I don't think I want humans anywhere else in the universe if we keep this up. Stick to destroying this one galaxy.
| liljp617 wrote: | ||||
I have to take the question based upon the past and current reality. |
Ok, well what I was responding to was your future prediction that something would happen to the sun.
Depends if we get the technology to colonize other worlds. So I'm undecided.
| TBSC wrote: |
| Whoa, only 1 vote for no so far. Well I'd like to keep an optimistic attitude here. Considering the human race and technology will advance in the future, there is no reason that I see that the possibility of them never becoming extinct is less than them becoming extinct. Especially if technological advances as well as biological ones keep happening at the same rate that they have so far. |
This universe isn't eternal so I can't see humans surviving past the point where it expands into frozen, dark, emptiness.
Also, its unlikely we could remain genetically healthy for long without the earth's magnetic field. Astronauts are exposed to high levels of radiation so this would be a big problem for any space colonies.
| Indi wrote: | ||
You hope. ^_^; |
I think the human race will kill itself off within the next 100 years, either in war or by destroying the planet. I look forward to that day.
| TBSC wrote: | ||||||
Ok, well what I was responding to was your future prediction that something would happen to the sun. |
I understand, but you stated that we may be able to inhabit other planets as we do Earth by that time. At the time (reality), I see that being extremely unlikely and again, at the time, I can't say I think it will happen for hundreds of centuries if it ever happens. The complexities of doing so are something we've never come close to facing.
| zellfaze wrote: | ||||
I think the human race will kill itself off within the next 100 years, either in war or by destroying the planet. I look forward to that day. |
looking at the current situation with conflicts all over the place, the need and greed for fossil fuels rising as more economies become mechanised, a growing north-south prosperity gap and global disenchantment with unworkable political "solutions" i think your estimate of 100 years is rather positive.
on the other hand, mother nature is far more rigorous in self control and very unforgiving if abused for to long so your suggestion of species suicide seems far more likely.
but looking forward to it?
why?
this is rather defeatist. we are build to be inventors and fighters for survival - if we ever get our head around the concept that this is one boat we're all in together and it's either sink or sink as a race - unlikely but one can hope and dream - we may just have a little chance.
THIS surely is a goal for anybody with love and compassion in them.
and a question - have you got any kids? what about them?
This thread breaks my heart.
It's not that people are saying that there is a chance - even a probable one - that humans might go extinct. That doesn't bother me, because it is a reasonable assumption. On the cosmic scale, humans are a tiny and rather fragile species... it's not really reaching too far to think of dozens - or even thousands - of ways that we could be wiped out in a few thousand years, let alone a few million or billion. As depressing a prospect as it may be, it is entirely reasonable to believe that humanity may become extinct. But personally, i'm with icecool and TBSC on this: every day we're getting closer and closer to the point that extinction becomes less and less probable, and eventually functionally impossible. With the rate we're advancing now, i think that's quite possible to achieve. In fact, if we continue apace, and if it is at all possible, i'd say we just might outlast the universe itself.
What bothers me is this:
The extinction of a species - any species - is a tragedy. It means they chose an evolutionary path that was a bad choice, and paid the ultimate and final price for their mistake, or that they never even had a chance to become something potentially spectacular. The harsh reality of nature means that some must go extinct, but it doesn't stop it from being a tragedy whenever it happens.
But if a species as wonderful and unique as human was to go extinct... that would be a tragedy of a scale our minds can't even comprehend. A species of bacteria, fish or insect... as sad is it is to lose one of them, they were just bacteria, fish or insects, and even if we were to lose them all, no one else in the universe would really care (assuming no other adverse effects of losing them). But we are an intelligent, creative species. We already have so much to offer the rest of the intelligent universe - should we ever find anyone else out there. And with every year that passes we become more and more interesting, and accumulate more and more to offer anyone who might be interested out there. If we were to die off today and if our traces were discovered by an alien species, every little bit they could find would be beyond priceless, because it would be unique and likely could never be duplicated in the lifetime of the universe. An alien species that never got to see a dodo... feh, they probably couldn't care less. But an alien species that never gets the chance to communicate with us? They'd probably be pretty bummed, to say the least.
What bothers me most about the attitudes i see represented in those quotes is not only the criminal devaluing of humanity and everything we've accomplished. It's the bloody apathy. You're here today because your ancestors cared about the future, whether or not they ever even imagined that it could be as good as it is. You're here because your ancestors fought... struggled... tooth and claw to survive, because survival matters that much. And your thank you to them is "feh, we're all probably gonna die some day, let's not sweat it" (or even worse: "we deserve it").
While you lazy bastards are sitting around shrugging nonchalantly about the potential extermination of your entire species - and possibly all traces of any culture and civilization associated with it - there are people, right now, today, struggling and fighting to keep our species going. They're researching medical technologies to fight diseases that don't even exist yet, engineering technologies to handle just about every kind of potential disaster we can conceive of, and building institutions that they hope will keep our civilization intact and growing for centuries to come. And this is your thanks? Or maybe those guys should all just mellow out, eh? Kick back, relax, and if that giant asteroid hits us before we're ready to deal with it... eh, it was bound to happen some way, some day, right?
i'm a little disgusted, but i guess there's not much i can do about it. You naysayers can always just kick back and ride on the coat tails of the people who are actually working to ensure our continued survival - the people who care - while you reap the benefits of their work like parasites. Hell, that's what you're doing for all of your ancestors and their work, and since you obviously don't give a squat about them and their hopes i can't expect you to care about anyone's today. All i can do is tell you to stay the hell out of my way, because i do not intend to sit back and "just enjoy the moment", i intend to enjoy the moment while working to the best of my ability to make sure our descendents have moments to enjoy, too. As long as you don't get in the way of that, we don't have a problem.
For those who not only don't care about helping us work toward preventing our extinction - for those who actually look forward to it - i have to ask: if you hate this ride so much, why don't you get off?
It's not that people are saying that there is a chance - even a probable one - that humans might go extinct. That doesn't bother me, because it is a reasonable assumption. On the cosmic scale, humans are a tiny and rather fragile species... it's not really reaching too far to think of dozens - or even thousands - of ways that we could be wiped out in a few thousand years, let alone a few million or billion. As depressing a prospect as it may be, it is entirely reasonable to believe that humanity may become extinct. But personally, i'm with icecool and TBSC on this: every day we're getting closer and closer to the point that extinction becomes less and less probable, and eventually functionally impossible. With the rate we're advancing now, i think that's quite possible to achieve. In fact, if we continue apace, and if it is at all possible, i'd say we just might outlast the universe itself.
What bothers me is this:
| J-Evil wrote: |
| ... it's not really anything for us to worry about. |
| deanhills wrote: |
| ... In the meanwhile I guess it is best just to enjoy the moments we have and when one thinks extinction it sort of makes our lives a little more precious for the moment of now. |
| ocalhoun wrote: |
| ... We couldn't exterminate ourselves if we tried. So, why not enjoy the moment? |
| zellfaze wrote: |
| I think the human race will kill itself off within the next 100 years, either in war or by destroying the planet. I look forward to that day. |
The extinction of a species - any species - is a tragedy. It means they chose an evolutionary path that was a bad choice, and paid the ultimate and final price for their mistake, or that they never even had a chance to become something potentially spectacular. The harsh reality of nature means that some must go extinct, but it doesn't stop it from being a tragedy whenever it happens.
But if a species as wonderful and unique as human was to go extinct... that would be a tragedy of a scale our minds can't even comprehend. A species of bacteria, fish or insect... as sad is it is to lose one of them, they were just bacteria, fish or insects, and even if we were to lose them all, no one else in the universe would really care (assuming no other adverse effects of losing them). But we are an intelligent, creative species. We already have so much to offer the rest of the intelligent universe - should we ever find anyone else out there. And with every year that passes we become more and more interesting, and accumulate more and more to offer anyone who might be interested out there. If we were to die off today and if our traces were discovered by an alien species, every little bit they could find would be beyond priceless, because it would be unique and likely could never be duplicated in the lifetime of the universe. An alien species that never got to see a dodo... feh, they probably couldn't care less. But an alien species that never gets the chance to communicate with us? They'd probably be pretty bummed, to say the least.
What bothers me most about the attitudes i see represented in those quotes is not only the criminal devaluing of humanity and everything we've accomplished. It's the bloody apathy. You're here today because your ancestors cared about the future, whether or not they ever even imagined that it could be as good as it is. You're here because your ancestors fought... struggled... tooth and claw to survive, because survival matters that much. And your thank you to them is "feh, we're all probably gonna die some day, let's not sweat it" (or even worse: "we deserve it").
While you lazy bastards are sitting around shrugging nonchalantly about the potential extermination of your entire species - and possibly all traces of any culture and civilization associated with it - there are people, right now, today, struggling and fighting to keep our species going. They're researching medical technologies to fight diseases that don't even exist yet, engineering technologies to handle just about every kind of potential disaster we can conceive of, and building institutions that they hope will keep our civilization intact and growing for centuries to come. And this is your thanks? Or maybe those guys should all just mellow out, eh? Kick back, relax, and if that giant asteroid hits us before we're ready to deal with it... eh, it was bound to happen some way, some day, right?
i'm a little disgusted, but i guess there's not much i can do about it. You naysayers can always just kick back and ride on the coat tails of the people who are actually working to ensure our continued survival - the people who care - while you reap the benefits of their work like parasites. Hell, that's what you're doing for all of your ancestors and their work, and since you obviously don't give a squat about them and their hopes i can't expect you to care about anyone's today. All i can do is tell you to stay the hell out of my way, because i do not intend to sit back and "just enjoy the moment", i intend to enjoy the moment while working to the best of my ability to make sure our descendents have moments to enjoy, too. As long as you don't get in the way of that, we don't have a problem.
For those who not only don't care about helping us work toward preventing our extinction - for those who actually look forward to it - i have to ask: if you hate this ride so much, why don't you get off?
| Indi wrote: |
| What bothers me most about the attitudes i see represented in those quotes is not only the criminal devaluing of humanity and everything we've accomplished. It's the bloody apathy. You're here today because your ancestors cared about the future, whether or not they ever even imagined that it could be as good as it is. You're here because your ancestors fought... struggled... tooth and claw to survive, because survival matters that much. And your thank you to them is "feh, we're all probably gonna die some day, let's not sweat it" (or even worse: "we deserve it"). |
Our ancestors struggled to survive and improve their world because they didn't want to die, and they wanted a more comfortable place to live.
They gave birth to us because they were horny.
For the vast majority of them, the far future (today's present) meant little.
Probably? Definitely. Nobody gets out alive.
Its pretty likely, but I wonder , given another 'chance' to evolve again from scratch, how human-like a second race could become...
| ocalhoun wrote: |
| To say that we would never go extinct is an extremely bold statement. After all, even the universe will eventually either collapse into itself for 'hot death', or slowly succumb to entropy until there is no usable energy left making for 'cold death'.
Could humanity survive either of those? Unlikely. |
I would hope that if we have survived to the end of the universe we would have by then found a way to escape it, either through natural ways to another dimension/universe through some exotic cosmic phenomena still undiscovered , or smashing our way out , even if there is no-where to go we could have learned what it takes to create a Big Bang of our own and create our own universe or at least a place to extend our existence.
| ocalhoun wrote: | ||
Our ancestors struggled to survive and improve their world because they didn't want to die, and they wanted a more comfortable place to live. They gave birth to us because they were horny. For the vast majority of them, the far future (today's present) meant little. |
Isn't that pretty much what i said?
| ocalhoun wrote: |
| Probably? Definitely. Nobody gets out alive. |
Are you sure that is what you mean to say, or is it perhaps just "nobody has gotten out alive so far"?
Biologically and physically, there is no reason we must die. If we could correct for senescence and find a way to store our "mind" (whatever that turns out to be) in a more durable - possibly even distributed and redundant - form we could theoretically live until very close to the end of the universe.
Science wise, we are only 400 years old, max. In 400 years we have completely rewritten our civilization's understanding of our bodies, space, time, matter, energy and more, and most of that progress is in the last 100 years or so, so the pace is obviously increasing. Can you say with absolute certainty that with 400 more years we won't be able to find a way to get around the end of the universe? i can't... because even now - today - we have physicists on the cutting edge drawing up escape scenarios. Yes, seriously. Now - today - they are already thinking about it, and some of the guys doing the most advanced physics in the world say we have a chance.
| xavax wrote: |
| Its pretty likely, but I wonder , given another 'chance' to evolve again from scratch, how human-like a second race could become... |
Biologically, slim to none. If we were wiped out, the next best contenders up to bat are mostly all our nearest biological kin (apes and the like), but even they will not necessarily follow the same evolutionary path we did. They could look nothing like us at all, or they could be pretty close; they could be like Wookies, or Ewoks (god help us). But if something else steps up to the plate - dolphins or whales or something else - they could be as alien as anything from out there among the stars.
Culturally/psychologically, that's a tough question to answer. Any replacement for humanity on Earth will have - more or less - the same environment we did, assuming they live mostly on land. How close? How much does that matter? Who knows?
| Tumbleweed wrote: | ||
I would hope that if we have survived to the end of the universe we would have by then found a way to escape it, either through natural ways to another dimension/universe through some exotic cosmic phenomena still undiscovered , or smashing our way out , even if there is no-where to go we could have learned what it takes to create a Big Bang of our own and create our own universe or at least a place to extend our existence. |
Hot death may be avoidable, perhaps by orbiting the final mass, using energy radiated from it, and waiting for it to expand again...
Cold death would be much harder to survive though. No matter how efficient your generator is, it will eventually run out of fuel. Your solar panels are useless when all the stars have burnt out. Your batteries can't last forever... That would be a bad life... Surviving on the last little scraps of energy, staving off an inevitable end. A slow, ugly way to die.
Of course, they could still survive by time travel or travel to parallel universes, but that is just speculative.
Yeah humans will extinct, and if they don't slow down this will probably happen very soon too.
Almost all creatures lived are extinct now. I am quite sure humans will go on that list too
Almost all creatures lived are extinct now. I am quite sure humans will go on that list too
I think in some hypothetical universe where humans can get their act together and not destroy the planet (or each other) it would be possible for science to advance enough that humans could extend their existence to the end of the universe.
I just don't see this happening. I don't see people getting that far. I think we're going to spend the next 600 or 700 yrs or so screwing up our existence and using science to plug the holes. Collectively it's like we're in over our heads in credit card debt and the interest rates are rising faster than our income. This--we--can't go on forever. Not like we are.
I believe that sometime in the next 1,000 yrs, after steadily degrading our overall existence and quality of life we'll probably go extinct.
I'm glad to be alive now because I'm afraid its only going to get worse. But, I also believe in reincarnation and I think I'm in for it with the rest of you.
I don't think anything lasts forever, and that includes the universe and it definitely includes people. The Buddhists say that a part of the beauty of existence is the temporary nature of it. When I contemplate the end of people I'm sad, but I'm most sad when I think about the pain that will accompany it.
I just don't see this happening. I don't see people getting that far. I think we're going to spend the next 600 or 700 yrs or so screwing up our existence and using science to plug the holes. Collectively it's like we're in over our heads in credit card debt and the interest rates are rising faster than our income. This--we--can't go on forever. Not like we are.
I believe that sometime in the next 1,000 yrs, after steadily degrading our overall existence and quality of life we'll probably go extinct.
I'm glad to be alive now because I'm afraid its only going to get worse. But, I also believe in reincarnation and I think I'm in for it with the rest of you.
I don't think anything lasts forever, and that includes the universe and it definitely includes people. The Buddhists say that a part of the beauty of existence is the temporary nature of it. When I contemplate the end of people I'm sad, but I'm most sad when I think about the pain that will accompany it.
| ocalhoun wrote: | ||||
Hot death may be avoidable, perhaps by orbiting the final mass, using energy radiated from it, and waiting for it to expand again... Cold death would be much harder to survive though. No matter how efficient your generator is, it will eventually run out of fuel. Your solar panels are useless when all the stars have burnt out. Your batteries can't last forever... That would be a bad life... Surviving on the last little scraps of energy, staving off an inevitable end. A slow, ugly way to die. Of course, they could still survive by time travel or travel to parallel universes, but that is just speculative. |
What is speculative today is science tomorrow ......... I have faith that mankind would find a way or make a way to survive our dieing universe, I would speculate that we may work alongside other intelligent life stuck in the same box as us, all the intelligent life in the universe + a billion or so years research/observation seems like a winning formula to me.
| Tumbleweed wrote: | ||||||
What is speculative today is science tomorrow ......... I have faith that mankind would find a way or make a way to survive our dieing universe, I would speculate that we may work alongside other intelligent life stuck in the same box as us, all the intelligent life in the universe + a billion or so years research/observation seems like a winning formula to me. |
A very optimistic view of relations with alien life...
We humans can't even get along with each other, though we are basically all the same. How could we get along with something that actually did have huge differences from us? Though I suppose with billions of years anything is possible, even peaceful humans...
i believe after all the mistakes we have made on this planet. (eg: pollution and introducing animals to areas where they should not exist. ) we probably would make the same mistakes twice, because thats our nature 
The only way human will extinct is either by Nuclear Bomb or by huge asteroid collision with earth or at the time when Sun finish up its Fuel.
Yeah, if we can colonise (other planets/moons) thats the thing. Im thinking we have not made the jump yet, so time is running out if we stay grounded. Wouldn't it be great if we were practicing by having a small colony on the moon right now that was self sufficient.
yes but it will be a long long long time from now...nothing to worry about at this point in time......everything that has a beginnig has an end...yes i stole that from the matrix..in this case: humanity
Yes, humans will definitely go extinct. Species go extinct all the time as the environment changes. The key to ongoing life is that new species take the place of old species. The lives of species aren't that different than the lives of individuals.
Humans are much more capable of manipulating their environment than other species, but that certainly has its plusses and minuses. It could mean we have the ability to speed up our extinction.
Humans are much more capable of manipulating their environment than other species, but that certainly has its plusses and minuses. It could mean we have the ability to speed up our extinction.
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