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Birth-Control in Your Religion
In Islam, birth-control (contraception) is allowed. In fact, many methods of birth-control were developed by Muslim scholars and these methods were later on taken to Europe.
What is your religion's stance on the use of birth-control? Does it condemn or allow it? What do you think of it?
| about.com wrote: |
| Islam & Birth Control:
There is nothing in Islam that would condemn contraception; on the contrary, Muslim scholars investigated and developed birth control methods which were taken to Europe. Avicenna, a famous Muslim doctor, lists 20 different birth control substances in one of his books. Reasons why contraception is justified include preserving the quality of the family, health, economics, and even helping the woman preserve her good looks. |
What is your religion's stance on the use of birth-control? Does it condemn or allow it? What do you think of it?
To the best of my knowledge birth control is seen as wrong by Catholics and conservative evangelical protestants. The rest (Judaism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Hinuism et al) allow it under some conditions or allow it unconditionally.
What I think about the Catholic position on birth control cannot be adequately expressed in a public forum. Suffice it to say I don't agree with their stance.
What I think about the Catholic position on birth control cannot be adequately expressed in a public forum. Suffice it to say I don't agree with their stance.
| Bikerman wrote: |
| What I think about the Catholic position on birth control cannot be adequately expressed in a public forum. Suffice it to say I don't agree with their stance. |
lol! I agree
Well I don't have a religion, but birth control is allowed by my family's religion (Christian). I truly believe that the Catholic church is wrong on their stance on birth control because of all the problems that it has caused (you can research that yourself; I don't feel like posting all of the problems that banning it has caused in various places in the world... the point remains the same: it's caused problems).
My religion, Roman Catholicism, is firmly against birth control, in all shapes and forms, because they, the clergy, feel that it's morally wrong to destroy a human life, even if that life has not yet been borne into reality (haha, pun). I disagree with them, though.
It is nothing to do with destroying a life - it is to do with having too much fun.
http://www.catholic.com/library/Birth_Control.asp
| Catholic Answers wrote: |
| Contraception is wrong because it’s a deliberate violation of the design God built into the human race, often referred to as "natural law." The natural law purpose of sex is procreation...
But sexual pleasure within marriage becomes unnatural, and even harmful to the spouses, when it is used in a way that deliberately excludes the basic purpose of sex, which is procreation. God’s gift of the sex act, along with its pleasure and intimacy, must not be abused by deliberately frustrating its natural end—procreation. |
http://www.catholic.com/library/Birth_Control.asp
| Drawingguy wrote: |
| My religion, Roman Catholicism, is firmly against birth control, in all shapes and forms, because they, the clergy, feel that it's morally wrong to destroy a human life, even if that life has not yet been borne into reality (haha, pun). I disagree with them, though. |
=/ That makes absolutely zero sense....in any possible way. How does one destroy something before it even begins to exist?
| Drawingguy wrote: |
| My religion, Roman Catholicism, is firmly against birth control, in all shapes and forms, because they, the clergy, feel that it's morally wrong to destroy a human life, even if that life has not yet been borne into reality (haha, pun). I disagree with them, though. |
If they're against birth control because they're against destroying human life, then they're completely gone because birth control doesn't destroy human life (unless you count abortion, which is basically birth control after conception, as birth control); it prevents human life. Some form of birth control prevent sperm from entering the female reproductive tract. The sperm basically breaks down and does exactly what it would have done inside of the male body. Condoms do the same. They prevent the sperm from reaching the eggs. I think the Catholic church (from what I've heard) is against birth control because, in their views, it promotes having sex for the wrong reasons.
| Afaceinthematrix wrote: | ||
If they're against birth control because they're against destroying human life, then they're completely gone because birth control doesn't destroy human life (unless you count abortion, which is basically birth control after conception, as birth control); it prevents human life. Some form of birth control prevent sperm from entering the female reproductive tract. The sperm basically breaks down and does exactly what it would have done inside of the male body. Condoms do the same. They prevent the sperm from reaching the eggs. I think the Catholic church (from what I've heard) is against birth control because, in their views, it promotes having sex for the wrong reasons. |
And because they're generally fairly ignorant about anything on this subject.
Hmm...so their mentality is basically saying that you ruin a cake by breaking an egg ?
| HalfBloodPrince wrote: |
| Hmm...so their mentality is basically saying that you ruin a cake by breaking an egg ? |
I think they're saying you ruin a cake before the egg exists.
I find it incredible that Catholics abide by this. Why do they have to follow a rule like this when it is clearly not in their interest to do so and goes against every grain of common sense?
They believe sex is not to be done for pleasure; only with the intention of making children (WTFFFF?)
| liljp617 wrote: | ||
=/ That makes absolutely zero sense....in any possible way. How does one destroy something before it even begins to exist? |
yeah never got the sense behind taht. Most of those "lives" would be destroyed anyway. Only 1 spermcel is needed for having a child. In a lifetime one produces many many millions. 99.9999% goes to waist anyway, what was the problem. If you follow this logic everyones balls should be cut of. (*OUCH!!*)
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It is interesting that everyone finds the Catholic position so ridiculous. It might be well, at this point, to remind people that, prior to about 1930, just about EVERY Christian denomination believed the same thing. It was the 1930 Lambeth Conference where the Anglican Church shifted its position, and after that other Protestant sects gradually changed their position in a similar manner...
Any woman who has had sex more than a few times is technically a serial killer 
lol...isn't it something like 80% of fertilized eggs get discarded before they even reach fetus development? Put them in jail!
I would imagine most Catholics don't follow it. At least not strictly at all.
lol...isn't it something like 80% of fertilized eggs get discarded before they even reach fetus development? Put them in jail!
| deanhills wrote: |
| I find it incredible that Catholics abide by this. Why do they have to follow a rule like this when it is clearly not in their interest to do so and goes against every grain of common sense? |
I would imagine most Catholics don't follow it. At least not strictly at all.
| liljp617 wrote: |
| I would imagine most Catholics don't follow it. At least not strictly at all. |
Yes, clearly many do not. Italy, for example, is a very Catholic country and yet has the 2nd lowest birth rate in the western world.
i find it confusing why Birth Control methods are considered Birth control when you can't exactly control birth using it. I mean there are no 100% effective birth control method ever used to this date (except for castration)
| redhakaw wrote: |
| i find it confusing why Birth Control methods are considered Birth control when you can't exactly control birth using it. I mean there are no 100% effective birth control method ever used to this date (except for castration) |
K; let's call it contraception.
| HalfBloodPrince wrote: |
| Hmm...so their mentality is basically saying that you ruin a cake by breaking an egg ? |
No you are ruining the cake by killing the chicken before it can lay eggs.
Catholics see sex as some perverted thing so they want to stop it as much as possible. Thats why they are against it.
So many christian people in africa don't use a condom so a heck of a lot there get infected with aids. So infact the church is killing people.
| HalfBloodPrince wrote: | ||
K; let's call it contraception. |
hehe, now that's more like it
| HalfBloodPrince wrote: | ||
In Islam, birth-control (contraception) is allowed. In fact, many methods of birth-control were developed by Muslim scholars and these methods were later on taken to Europe.
What is your religion's stance on the use of birth-control? Does it condemn or allow it? What do you think of it? |
Roman Catholicism explicitly forbids any form of birth control, as the church sees it as inhibiting the natural process of procreation.
[Though they laugh at me when I bring up the argument that we shouldn't use medicine on the sick and solely pray over them, because; if everything happens for a reason, then they are meant to be sick, and that medication should not be allowed]
Also, any sort of sexual contact that is not penis to vagina is considered sin, this includes masturbation.
I can totally see some Roman Catholic community attempting to live without any sex at all, but ending up suffering the same fate as another obscure Christian group that condemned breathing as evil. 
I read that joke somewhere and found it heart-warmingly hilarious.
I read that joke somewhere and found it heart-warmingly hilarious.
Catholic churc accepts natural methods to avoid pregnancy. Like ovulation rythm, temperature and any other observance of natural fertile cycles of woman, avoiding relationships during this time. Catolich church allows sexuality inside the marriage, it is considered one of the duties of the married people, in order to have children.
Most methods are seen as abortive ones, like day-after pill. Others are related with the fact that masturbation is considered a sin, then condoms retain sperm from reaching the woman body, so it's a form of the Onan sin.
I don't totally agree with catholic churc, but since I'm catholic, I wanted to explain it better for the ones who aren't.
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Most methods are seen as abortive ones, like day-after pill. Others are related with the fact that masturbation is considered a sin, then condoms retain sperm from reaching the woman body, so it's a form of the Onan sin.
I don't totally agree with catholic churc, but since I'm catholic, I wanted to explain it better for the ones who aren't.
Last edited by iyepes on Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:05 am; edited 1 time in total
There's only one 100% secure birth control method. It's called chastity, but it's a very hard to take medicine
| iyepes wrote: |
| There's only one 100% secure birth control method. It's called chastity, but it's a very hard to take medicine |
So if a husband and wife don't want kids immediately after marriage (like they want to wait two or three years), they just shouldn't have sex for two or three years after getting married?
| HalfBloodPrince wrote: | ||
So if a husband and wife don't want kids immediately after marriage (like they want to wait two or three years), they just shouldn't have sex for two or three years after getting married? |
Well, if they want to be 100% sure they don't have a child within that time frame.....yes
This would seem to display lack of imagination on the sexual front. Vaginal sex is one option but surely you recognise there are others?
| Bikerman wrote: |
| This would seem to display lack of imagination on the sexual front. Vaginal sex is one option but surely you recognise there are others? |
Well of course lol...I'll openly say I have no first hand experience in the field, but it seems most women don't take kindly to the other options on a regular basis.
| liljp617 wrote: | ||
Well of course lol...I'll openly say I have no first hand experience in the field, but it seems most women don't take kindly to the other options on a regular basis. |
You're probably long overdue for one of those "rude awakenings" people are always talking about.
Birth control has been going on since start of men... When ever there was hunger... not enough food to feed the current population, members of the society were ordered to contain the amount of births....
Later it became a problem in space, not enough room for all of the children ( EG : china - 1 child policy)
Later it became a problem in space, not enough room for all of the children ( EG : china - 1 child policy)
| Poetsunited wrote: |
| Birth control has been going on since start of men... When ever there was hunger... not enough food to feed the current population, members of the society were ordered to contain the amount of births....
Later it became a problem in space, not enough room for all of the children ( EG : china - 1 child policy) |
I don't think that's the topic of discussion :O
| Bikerman wrote: |
| To the best of my knowledge birth control is seen as wrong by Catholics and conservative evangelical protestants. The rest (Judaism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Hinuism et al) allow it under some conditions or allow it unconditionally.
What I think about the Catholic position on birth control cannot be adequately expressed in a public forum. Suffice it to say I don't agree with their stance. |
lol.
A lot of older style Christians think that's it's wrong to use any form of birth control because of the fact it's against God's will...I find that absurd. But whatever, if they want to have 10 million kids...more fun for them.
I, myself, am not religious, and I'm not against the use of birth control.
Then what was the point of making sex pleasurable, if the only acceptable intention to do it was to make children?
| HalfBloodPrince wrote: |
| They believe sex is not to be done for pleasure; only with the intention of making children (WTFFFF?) |
Then what was the point of making sex pleasurable, if the only acceptable intention to do it was to make children?
| unknown_123 wrote: | ||
lol. A lot of older style Christians think that's it's wrong to use any form of birth control because of the fact it's against God's will...I find that absurd. But whatever, if they want to have 10 million kids...more fun for them. |
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