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On jun 06, 1944 Was The D-Day Invasion-Normandy, France
The Invasion of Normandy was the invasion and establishment of Allied forces in Normandy, France during Operation Overlord in World War II. It covers from the initial landings on June 6, 1944 until the Allied breakout in mid-July.
It was the largest seaborne invasion at the time,[8] involving over 850,000 troops crossing the English Channel from the United Kingdom to Normandy by the end of June 1944.[9]
Allied land forces that saw combat in Normandy on June 6 came from Canada, Free French Forces, the United Kingdom, and the United States. In the weeks following the invasion, Polish forces also participated and there were also contingents from Belgium, Czechoslovakia, Greece, and the Netherlands.[10] Most of the above countries also provided air and naval support, as did the Royal Australian Air Force,[11] Royal New Zealand Air Force and the Royal Norwegian Navy.[12]
The Normandy invasion began with overnight parachute and glider landings, massive air attacks, naval bombardments, an early morning amphibious landing and during the evening the remaining elements of the parachute divisions landed. The "D-Day" forces deployed from bases along the south coast of England, the most important of these being Portsmouth.[13]
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It was the largest seaborne invasion at the time,[8] involving over 850,000 troops crossing the English Channel from the United Kingdom to Normandy by the end of June 1944.[9]
Allied land forces that saw combat in Normandy on June 6 came from Canada, Free French Forces, the United Kingdom, and the United States. In the weeks following the invasion, Polish forces also participated and there were also contingents from Belgium, Czechoslovakia, Greece, and the Netherlands.[10] Most of the above countries also provided air and naval support, as did the Royal Australian Air Force,[11] Royal New Zealand Air Force and the Royal Norwegian Navy.[12]
The Normandy invasion began with overnight parachute and glider landings, massive air attacks, naval bombardments, an early morning amphibious landing and during the evening the remaining elements of the parachute divisions landed. The "D-Day" forces deployed from bases along the south coast of England, the most important of these being Portsmouth.[13]
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there are some very telling monuments & sculptures oin the gallery page.
Some seem a little macabre (the beach reconstructed), but the one of the marine laying on the floor is very moving.
Some seem a little macabre (the beach reconstructed), but the one of the marine laying on the floor is very moving.
Who won the war? Neither of those people. France was done and only survived because of England. The US was quite late on their entry. Russia had already won the war (against Germany) when D-Day occurred. D-Day was just a smack in the face to Hitler...wasn't much of a victory-deciding invasion.
| liljp617 wrote: |
| Who won the war? Neither of those people. France was done and only survived because of England. The US was quite late on their entry. Russia had already won the war (against Germany) when D-Day occurred. D-Day was just a smack in the face to Hitler...wasn't much of a victory-deciding invasion. |
You keep saying that. I honestly think you've been reading too many Russian or Soviet history books.
No historian to my knowledge believes Germany was defeated prior to the D-Day invasion. Please provide me with one peer reviewed history article or book which logically and believably makes the argument that D-Day was a waste of time and human lives because the Soviets already had the war wrapped up.
As I mentioned before, the Russians didn't even enter Berlin until April of 1945.
On the other hand, the USSR did enter the war with Japan at the last minute to make a land grab before the Japanese surrendered to the United States.
Respectfully,
M
I agree with Moonspider. D-day is not a smack in the face of Hitler, it's a decisve victory from the Allies and it permitted the liberation of France
Here's my summary. The French were surviving because of the UK, Soviet Union won the battle of Leningrad and from that day forward CCCP kept winning and winning. US came to a war which was already "won". The alliance would have won the war no doubt without US.
Soviet Union did conquer Berlin while the UK&US&French forces were still struggling far away. Just remember how Germany were divided. You people cannot honestly think Soviet Union wouldn't have come through victorious without Normandia? They would have, not as fast though. And if the D-day weren't, Europe would have been a far more Soviet-like. That's maybe the reason which was driving US crazy.
Also have to mention that Soviet Union struggled in the Leningrad long thanks to the Germany's alliance with Finland. Finland had it's "independent war" against Soviet Union and if you check the warzones, they were pretty close to eachother. As the battle of Leningrad ended, was Finland starting to struggle and the situation in the eastern battlefield turned on the side of Soviet Union.
I'm not saying that Soviet Union would have survived on its own, that's not what I'm saying! What I'm saying is because of the threat and pressure of east and west combined, Germany couldn't win the war.
Soviet Union did conquer Berlin while the UK&US&French forces were still struggling far away. Just remember how Germany were divided. You people cannot honestly think Soviet Union wouldn't have come through victorious without Normandia? They would have, not as fast though. And if the D-day weren't, Europe would have been a far more Soviet-like. That's maybe the reason which was driving US crazy.
Also have to mention that Soviet Union struggled in the Leningrad long thanks to the Germany's alliance with Finland. Finland had it's "independent war" against Soviet Union and if you check the warzones, they were pretty close to eachother. As the battle of Leningrad ended, was Finland starting to struggle and the situation in the eastern battlefield turned on the side of Soviet Union.
I'm not saying that Soviet Union would have survived on its own, that's not what I'm saying! What I'm saying is because of the threat and pressure of east and west combined, Germany couldn't win the war.
| Tutor wrote: |
| Here's my summary. The French were surviving because of the UK, Soviet Union won the battle of Leningrad and from that day forward CCCP kept winning and winning. US came to a war which was already "won". |
I think the war's outcome was less than certain in January of '42.
| Tutor wrote: |
| The alliance would have won the war no doubt without US. |
Probably, provided the United States continued providing Britain, the USSR, and other allies with material. But as you said, the war would have lasted longer.
| Tutor wrote: |
| Soviet Union did conquer Berlin while the UK&US&French forces were still struggling far away. |
Really? Western allied forces crossed the Rhine in March. The Soviets entered Berlin in late April. That doesn't seem that far away to me.
| Tutor wrote: |
| You people cannot honestly think Soviet Union wouldn't have come through victorious without Normandia? They would have, not as fast though. |
What if there was no threat of invasion from the West period? What if Hitler did not need to commit vast amounts of resources to defending the French coasts? What if he did not assign one of his best field marshalls (Rommel) to prepare the Atlantic Wall? What if the British and Americans didn't fly thousands of bombers over Germany on a regular basis, freeing up the Luftwaffe to engage the USSR on the Eastern front, allowing the Luftwaffe to play to its strength, tactical air support, against the USSR? (Not to mention the vast amounts of damage done to German industry.)
| Tutor wrote: |
| And if the D-day weren't, Europe would have been a far more Soviet-like. That's maybe the reason which was driving US crazy. |
Of course it was a concern, probably of Britain more so than the United States. I believe Churchill even once considered opening a front from the South instead of France in order to cut off the Soviet advance. No one in high command or political position had delusions as to our relationship with the USSR. It was an alliance of convenience, a quentisential "enemy of my enemy" friendship. After all, the war started with the invasion of Poland by both Germany and the Soviet Union, who were allies until Hitler decided to break his alliance with Stalin with the commencement of Operation Barbarossa in 1940.
| Tutor wrote: |
| I'm not saying that Soviet Union would have survived on its own, that's not what I'm saying! What I'm saying is because of the threat and pressure of east and west combined, Germany couldn't win the war. |
I'll agree with that, but you seem to play down the contributions of the West considerably.
Respectfully,
M
| Moonspider wrote: |
| Really? Western allied forces crossed the Rhine in March. The Soviets entered Berlin in late April. That doesn't seem that far away to me. |
Yeah, well it's just like a 570km. I don't know when your country had real war on land, but I can tell it's not a picnictrip. I must admit that I mislead you with the West being struggling far away. I really meant that UK&US were far away from Berlin, where the war ended. Sorry for my obscurity.
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What if there was no threat of invasion from the West period? What if Hitler did not need to commit vast amounts of resources to defending the French coasts? What if he did not assign one of his best field marshalls (Rommel) to prepare the Atlantic Wall? What if the British and Americans didn't fly thousands of bombers over Germany on a regular basis, freeing up the Luftwaffe to engage the USSR on the Eastern front, allowing the Luftwaffe to play to its strength, tactical air support, against the USSR? (Not to mention the vast amounts of damage done to German industry.) |
I hope I wasn't being too offensive, 'cos I think we're making a reasonable conversation.
| Tutor wrote: |
| You people cannot honestly think Soviet Union wouldn't have come through victorious without Normandia? They would have, not as fast though. |
This is an interesting question and can be a good debate. What would have happened if the US was not involved? Would Normandy have happened? Would the Soviet have marched into Germany? Apart from soldiers and machinery, the US were motivating in that they created lots of morale for everyone in Europe. As soon as people heard the US soldiers were coming, they took risks they would not have taken without that knowledge. They felt safer and more empowered. Normandy was an incredibly brave act. So many people perished. We owe those soldiers the victory in Germany.
Arguing the other way round. If there had been no US, no Normandy. I do not believe the Soviet Union would have entered Germany. Perhaps in a way the "US capitalists" were perceived as a threat, and their advance to the Soviet border had to be countered? US politics also played a role in this. Even when the US Generals in Europe wanted to push right to the Soviet border, it was ordered to halt and allow the Soviets in. If the UK had been the ones to enter Berlin first, I doubt they would have allowed the Soviets to enter Germany. The war with Germany had been fought much longer by UK than US, and they had much longer experience to have wanted to stop the Soviets from entering Germany. But of course this can be debated.
I also believe that the victory in Germany was not only due to the Normandy invasion. Germany had no oil and it was at the end of its resources, especially manpower too. They were battle weary. When the US entered Europe, the battle weary Germans were still formidable though, but not in the same spirited way as when they had conquered Europe at the end of the thirties and expanded at the beginning of the forties. The world was at their feet then and they had plenty of resources.
We owe the UK a lot as well. They took severe pounding over many years, and managed to survive it with major damages. Not only in the UK, but in the Far East as well. Thousands of soldiers in the Far East had to be sacrificed for the US initiative to enter Europe, i.e. they had to remove US troops from the Far East for the European initiative, which paved the way for Japanese to take over in the Far East, where Allied troops were vulnerable, and to deal very harshly with those Allied troops who had been left behind and were unprotected.
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