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RightousIndignation
I want to post an account of events that occurred when I got ripped off by a hight end audio company.
Because I don't live in the US I have virtually no legal recourse against the company that essentially took me for $3000. I would like to warn others with a website that outlines the events that occurred.
Is there any way to get to get my primitive site to come up when anyone searches the company (Tact Audio)? I'd appreciate any suggestions and don't mind doing any work necessary to mod my site:

Here is my web page: http://tactbuyerbeware.onlinewebshop.net/
Arseniy
You can add yourself manually into Google's list of sites, that soon will be indexed with bots.
Yahoo, as far as I know, adds you by itself after some time staying online.
Just look for "Add" link in every search engine you'll find Smile
RightousIndignation
Hy Arsenly,
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately I tried adding myself to Google but couldn't find anything that allowed me to add myself to their list of sites.
Gerry
richard270384
I got my site indexed in less than a day.

Put a link to your iste in your signature on all the forums you visit, and just try to get as many backlinks as you can.

As far as getting rankings for when someone types "tact audio" into google, just make sure you use that search term in your page a lot.
RightousIndignation
Thanx dude.
I believe I've just added my site to Google and I guess I have to wait to see if gets indexed. I've already done some of the things you've suggested and, on my web page, use the search term as many times as possible as well as labeling hyperlinks with that term. I guess I'll have to take it one step at a time and see if I indexed first.
Arseniy
Are you so sure that there is no link? Smile
Get that one! http://www.google.com/addurl/
k_s_baskar
Instead of using add ur feature, just try to get link back with PR7 or PR8 sites. This will index your site within 24 hours to google.

addurl feature will take several weeks to index your site.

gud luck
Smile
RightousIndignation
You lost me. What is a PR7/PR8 site?
Faraz
Yes, k_s_baskar is right. This is how I also got my site listed in Google quickly.

PR = Page Rank. Read the following for the better understanding of it: http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank.html
lerian
submit your website on digg.com, del.icio.us and other bookmarking sites.
richard270384
I think k_s_bakar is right as well.

I think that higher PR sites get crawled more often, so if you have a link from one of those sites, your page will get crawled soon after the high PR site.
RightousIndignation
richard270384 wrote:
I think k_s_bakar is right as well.

I think that higher PR sites get crawled more often, so if you have a link from one of those sites, your page will get crawled soon after the high PR site.


Could I place a link in a post to a popular forum?

Ps Digg rejected my URL with this message:

This URL has been widely reported by users as being regularly used to spam Digg's submission process and cannot be submitted at this time.

I have no idea what this means.
richard270384
That Digg error message is very strange. It means that someone has told Digg that your site is spam. Have you submitted it to Digg before?

You could post in a popular forum, but you'd be better off with some signature links it that forum. Your link will be on more pages that way and will be more likely to get picked up by Google. If you have only one link across the whole high pr site, it still might take a while before the crawler finds it.
RightousIndignation
richard270384 wrote:
That Digg error message is very strange. It means that someone has told Digg that your site is spam. Have you submitted it to Digg before?


Nope, never have. I am absolutely new to this stuff. This is my first site and it was created only days ago. Maybe the problem is the free web hosting service I used. I didn't buy a domain name and only created a subdomain on their site.
liljp617
It's much more complicated than just submitting your site to any search engine or directory. If you're really interested, you're going to have to do quite a bit of research into Search Engine Optimization, use of keywords, use of backlinks, etc. Google has a very precise system for page rankings.
RightousIndignation
That's what I'm discovering. The problem is that I can't seem to find a systematic explanation on the subject. I've stumbled on bits and pieces that are completely out of context.
liljp617
Your best bet is to Google the topics related to Search Engine Optimization and look for well organized, professional-looking blogs of people who are well versed in the subject.

Try this one see if it helps.

http://real-traffic.blogspot.com/


I don't think you're going to find a site that is going to explain everything you need to know step-by-step. You're going to have to find multiple sites that deal with the subject and kind of mesh them together. There's so many little things...even down to the percentage of times you use your keywords on your site. If you the percentage is too high, it's going to hurt you, too low it's going to hurt you. Little junk like that which makes it kind of difficult.

Once you get your site together, I recommend you use http://www.linkreferral.com/adwel.pl?oldrefid=126535 as one of your methods of bringing decent traffic in and getting people's attention (of course you'll need many other ways).

Just go for it though...it's going to be a learning experience regardless of how much you research, so just learn on the go.
richard270384
Definitely google SEO, but remember this when you are reading. Even though you want to rank well and be picked up by a search engine, don't sacrifice your page's content for the sake of SEO. At the end of the day, most SEO specialists say that a well written, properly coded page with good, original content is the first step to good search engine rankings (and the most important).

And as far linkreferral goes, I don't think it is really going to work for you here. I use LinkReferral and find it works best on sites where you want people to come back again, or sign up to your site or something similar. In the case of your site, people who visit your site from LinkReferral probably aren't going to do much for you. Your site isn't a site where people will come back. It might be a good way to get the word out about your experience but I think that for the effort you will need to put in, it's not worth it. The traffic you are looking for is organic search engine traffic. You want people who are thinking of buying a product from this company to find your page and read about what happened to you - Simple as that.

I was thinking about your error message on Digg. Maybe another subdomain at OnlineWebShop.net has been marked as spam by Digg and so Digg has blocked all subdomains from being bookmarked - Maybe you should get/use your Frihost account for this page? Another though I had is that maybe the audio company your site is related to found your site and told Digg it was spam to stop you getting as much traffic. In any case, I reccommed using StumbleUpon anyway. I find I get a lot more traffic from Stumbleupon bookmarking than from Digg.

Edit: Also, nobody knows EXACTLY what needs to be done to get indexed highly on Google. The only people that really know are the people who work at Google - and they're not telling anyone. All this SEO stuff is just theoretical, and usually pays off, but not always. That is why you will never find a definitive guide. Not only do the rules change over time, but they also change between search engines. A page that ranks well on Google won't neccessarily rank well on Yahoo or MSN.
liljp617
I really recommended LinkReferral because you will get some (not a ton) quality reviews. It will definitely help in letting you know what the average reader wants to see and doesn't want to see.


The reason something on Google won't rank exactly like on Yahoo is Google is a search engine, Yahoo is a directory. There are some major differences.
RightousIndignation
Thanx eveyone,
I guess I have my work cut out for me.
richard270384
liljp617 wrote:
I really recommended LinkReferral because you will get some (not a ton) quality reviews. It will definitely help in letting you know what the average reader wants to see and doesn't want to see.


The reason something on Google won't rank exactly like on Yahoo is Google is a search engine, Yahoo is a directory. There are some major differences.


Yeah, but I don't think it matters that much what visitors to Rightous's site want to see and not see. He is not trying to give web site users a service, or anything like that. Hee just wants them to know his story. The most traffic I can get from LinkReferral is about 20 hits per day, and 90% of the reviews people give are not helpful anyway.

To the best of my knowledge, Yahoo Search and Yahoo Directory and two completely different services. I'm indexed on Yahoo Search, but i'm not included in their directory. The reason that Google and Yahoo rank sites differently is because they use different algorithms to measure a site's relevance to a particular keyword..
akh-international
Thanks for useful information. Smile
swizzy
i registered my new site with godaddy... since it was even before pre-launch, i decided not to give out the links, or even add it to google... but i dont know how... google simply indexed my 1-page site and it dint even need any exposure!

I'm sure godaddy/enom/other major domain companies have tied up with google to give the new domain names to google.

Anyways you can get indexed pretty soon if you use proper standards, and stuff that google loves...
RightousIndignation
swizzy wrote:
i registered my new site with godaddy... since it was even before pre-launch, i decided not to give out the links, or even add it to google... but i dont know how... google simply indexed my 1-page site and it dint even need any exposure!

I'm sure godaddy/enom/other major domain companies have tied up with google to give the new domain names to google.

Anyways you can get indexed pretty soon if you use proper standards, and stuff that google loves...


So I take it you paid for the hosting and domain name?
lerian
If I were you, I will create a blogger blog and post your content on this site (http://tactbuyerbeware.onlinewebshop.net/) into your blogger blog, then submit it to digg, del.icio.us, technorati, furl, stumbleupon, and other bookmarking sites (there are many).

I see that the site above hasn't been indexed yet by google: link, so you won't face duplicate content problem by reposting those content on your new blogger blog.

However, if you put it on your own domain name it will make you more legitimate (I'm talking about your claim on your site). But in the term of SEO, blogger blog is enough.
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