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Microsoft filters http://youtube.com from MSN conversations





Hogwarts
Go into MSN. Try typing in http://www.youtube.com in any window.

Guess what? You can't. Microsoft has now impemented a filter to MSN to block people from saying http://www.youtube.com.

Is this the beginning of internet-wide censorship by the worlds biggest software company? Where does this end? Soon they'll end up blocking .torrent links and the words Linux and Mac.




Edit: Some additional reading.
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080510/windows-live-messenger-blocks-wwwyoutubecom/


Funny. This coincies with the release of Microsoft Soapbox, which appears to only be compatible with internet explorer
http://video.msn.com/



New! More sites have been found to be blocked!
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To add to this; Deviantart.com, Xanga.com and Googlepages.com are all blocked.
eznet
Yea, they are a dirty lot. It is funny, the more they do crap this like, the more people switch to Mac and Linux. You combine their horrible product line with tactics like this, and there just isn't much attraction left for Microsoft. It is odd to watch such a giant fall.
This is not to say that Microsoft has not done a lot for the computing world - I feel safe in saying that I would have not learned nearly as much about computers as I have, if it were not for MS operating systems being there (DOS was where I started). With this said, they have not rolled out anything great or interesting since Windows XP (Vista stinks horribly). I think that in the future, Microsoft's best and most viable product will be their Visual Studio IDE - which IMHO is the most robust and full featured IDE available. But that will only take them so far... especially if they continue to tick off their customer base.
Hogwarts
This isn't about ticking anybody off.

But now they're censoring a compeditors link, they're going to begin to censor more and more.

Eventually, now that they have a monopoly, they're going to start filtering out /all/ competition.

They've blocked it in MSN, who's to say that they're not going to blacklist it and disallow the whole OS from accessing youtube?
Manofgames
Just to confim what Hogwarts is saying - this is actually happening. I'm 'Alex' in the screenshot, and before Tobias sent me that youtube link I'd just sent him one, which as you can see didn't arrive.
I also tried this on another account I have with different people, and they weren't able to send me links.

I can't believe that Microsoft is intentionally blocking links - it would be suicide. If you ask me, someone's been playing with their servers.
Hogwarts
This is absoloutely terrible, though Sad

Stupid M$ Sad
Peterssidan
I tried it myself and it's true even if I'm using aMSN. This makes me so angry! Mad It can be much more worse and I hope that this kind of things goes illegal. Censorship is one of the worst things that could happen.
Hogwarts
http://soapbox.msn.com

Funnily enough, this coincides with the release of Microsoft Soapbox

Now, I wonder why that's the case.
Hogwarts
To add to this,
Deviantart.com
Xanga.com
Googlepages.com
eBuddy.com

All blocked.
erlendhg
That is totally incredible!

I tested this on five computers. It is almost not to believe!

That is indeed dirty competitioning from Microsoft's side.
nilsmo
Incredible! Well, we all know filtering chats does not work, though.
James007
Owh! That's why my mediafire folder links didn't work. I don't understand really... it would be the biggest PR mistake in MS history... although. Laughing
nilsmo
Incidentally, I use Google (don't be evil) not Microsoft (M$, where M stands for monopoly) for chatting.
Peterssidan
Is the block gone now? I sended a youtube link without any problems some minutes ago. Is it the same for you?
Keran
I just tried it out now, I don't seem to have any problems with sending these links out...
Ghost Rider103
I also just now tried it, and I didn't have a problem sending a youtube link.
nilsmo
Maybe this was a false news story... Was it true?
lethaltriad
I sent out a youtube link to my friend on mesenger last night and it went through on my side. Sometimes though my facebook links wont go through
Peterssidan
nilsmo wrote:
Maybe this was a false news story... Was it true?

It was true. The youtube links seems to work now but if you try http://googlepages.com or http://ebuddy.com you will still get this problem.
eznet
Man, MS really seems hell-bent on becoming the evil (failure) monster of the computer world. In yet another genius PR move, MS has decided to make deals with budget pc manufactures where they will provide a significantly reduced copy of XP for budget PCs - if the PC manufactures will cripple the budget PC's features and functionality. MS really seems determined to tick off customers and continue to loose their dominant position in the market... It really is odd to see a giant fall - but I guess it is good news for Linux.
MrBlueSky
nilsmo wrote:
Incidentally, I use Google (don't be evil) not Microsoft (M$, where M stands for monopoly) for chatting.


Google and MS are both companies. Companies are in it for the money. Google does do the occasional evil (creating link farms, censoring, discriminating 'little' customers, etc.), just like Microsoft does. Maybe there is difference in quantity, but Google is still young..

And if MS was a monopoly, how would you be able to choose to use a competing company (Google)?

By the way, it seems "Yahoo has been blocking Photobucket.com links for ages in Yahoo chat." (http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=549110&cid=23362634)
erlendhg
I've tried some more to send youtube links through MSN (or Live Messenger as I am using).

It seems to me that the link http://www.youtube.com won't go through.
However "youtube.com" and full youtube video links like http://youtube.com/watch?v=[video id] seems to work fine.

Anyways, this does not justify Microsoft in any ways. They have went too far, and I believe they will realize it and correct the *hrm* "bug" soon.
Liu
You know, before many people used to favor MS before they became big. They were the under dog that started from the garage that everyone was rooting for.

Google can be said the same, the now underdog. I'm betting after google has been around a bit longer, people will start digging up the skeletons in their closet as well.
mathiaus
Is it the client or the servers which are actually filtering? I use trillian (when XP works) so it will be interesting to see if I can get away with it Razz
Manofgames
mathiaus wrote:
Is it the client or the servers which are actually filtering? I use trillian (when XP works) so it will be interesting to see if I can get away with it Razz

Apparently it's the server which is sending a message back to the client, so it should affect all instant messaging programs..
Though as people have said, youtube links appear to be 'almost' working properly now
nilsmo
MrBlueSky wrote:
Google and MS are both companies. Companies are in it for the money. Google does do the occasional evil (creating link farms, censoring, discriminating 'little' customers, etc.), just like Microsoft does. Maybe there is difference in quantity, but Google is still young..


Yeah of course. Google does it's share of evil things to get its money like big companies do. But I don't like the monopoly thing that Microsoft has itself attached to.
erlendhg
Apparenlty, this was the problem.
The blocking function that MSN uses is provided by a Microsoft partner.
Then this Microsoft partner accidently blocks Youtube's (and some others' as well) IP addresses.

So Microsoft says that the whole thing was an accident, but that they were not directly responsible.
They also claim that everything is fixed now.

http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5B410F7FD930829E!35340.entry
DjMilez
Yeah, it seems to work.

I'd never live without youtube links on MSN x]
loyal
Forgive me for stupidity, but why would msn want to block th elink to youtube?
Surely it doesn't affect msn if people go on youtube.

Peace.
tidruG
Alright ladies and gents.
This news is true that MS was blocking links to a few sites for all users using MSN or WLM.

However, these links are now working again, try them yourselves.


In my personal opinion, it must have been some experiment they were conducting. MS cannot be stupid enough to block links or do that kind of censorship. It would be a PR nightmare. And I'm quite sure they are aware of how unpopular they are.
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