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What do you think about Albert Einstein?
I say he is my Favorite scientist...
What about you...
His Quotes are # "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
# "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
# "Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love."
# "I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details."
# "The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax."
# "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
# "The only real valuable thing is intuition."
# "A person starts to live when he can live outside himself."
# "I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice."
# "God is subtle but he is not malicious."
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What about you...
His Quotes are # "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
# "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
# "Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love."
# "I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details."
# "The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax."
# "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
# "The only real valuable thing is intuition."
# "A person starts to live when he can live outside himself."
# "I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice."
# "God is subtle but he is not malicious."
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I would say I very much respect him but 'like' is probably a bit far seeing as I have never interacted with him.
Honestly, he's ok, but he's not perfect.
He was not (as is often claimed) "the smartest man that has ever lived". He had a knack for seeing complicated ideas in simplistic ways, and that was a powerful gift that allowed him to make many advances, but at the same time it also hindered him in ways because sometimes complicated things can't be simplified without destroying important information. And in fact, while he was a brilliant scientist in his early-middle career, he was not so hot in his later years - and as a philosopher he flat out sucked.
He was also not a particularly good orator or writer. He did not make things clear - he tended to muddy them up quite a bit with colourful analogies that sounded cool but confused the issues. (In fact, a lot of his quotes are rebuttals, where he has to explain, "No, i didn't really mean that".) Not to mention that many of his more famous quotes are actually jokes intended for people who knew they were jokes, and are mistakenly taken seriously by most readers (like the infamous "God does not play dice" quotes). He liked to hear himself quoted, so he said quotable things... even at the expense of clarity. (Case in point, he rejected the way most people interpret most of the quotes listed in the first post.)
He's also no saint, and on his whim a number of budding scientists and fields were suppressed because he just didn't like the ideas - regardless of how scientifically valid they were. If he had been taken as seriously then as he is now, quantum mechanics would have been held back almost fifty years. As it was, he certainly didn't do string theory any favours.
Sure, he's ok, but he was only human, just like the rest of us. Give him credit for figuring out the simple solution to relativity and the photoelectric effect (which gave us General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics), and for being a good, intelligent, compassionate person. Don't make him into a saint.
He was not (as is often claimed) "the smartest man that has ever lived". He had a knack for seeing complicated ideas in simplistic ways, and that was a powerful gift that allowed him to make many advances, but at the same time it also hindered him in ways because sometimes complicated things can't be simplified without destroying important information. And in fact, while he was a brilliant scientist in his early-middle career, he was not so hot in his later years - and as a philosopher he flat out sucked.
He was also not a particularly good orator or writer. He did not make things clear - he tended to muddy them up quite a bit with colourful analogies that sounded cool but confused the issues. (In fact, a lot of his quotes are rebuttals, where he has to explain, "No, i didn't really mean that".) Not to mention that many of his more famous quotes are actually jokes intended for people who knew they were jokes, and are mistakenly taken seriously by most readers (like the infamous "God does not play dice" quotes). He liked to hear himself quoted, so he said quotable things... even at the expense of clarity. (Case in point, he rejected the way most people interpret most of the quotes listed in the first post.)
He's also no saint, and on his whim a number of budding scientists and fields were suppressed because he just didn't like the ideas - regardless of how scientifically valid they were. If he had been taken as seriously then as he is now, quantum mechanics would have been held back almost fifty years. As it was, he certainly didn't do string theory any favours.
Sure, he's ok, but he was only human, just like the rest of us. Give him credit for figuring out the simple solution to relativity and the photoelectric effect (which gave us General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics), and for being a good, intelligent, compassionate person. Don't make him into a saint.
That was really smart man.
Respect Einstain.
Respect Einstain.
| Indi wrote: |
| Honestly, he's ok, but he's not perfect. |
Darwin, for example, was way cooler!
Einstein was a man who used his brain more than any other human did ....
He was one of the smartest scientists ever ....
He was one of the smartest scientists ever ....
| Indi wrote: |
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(...) Sure, he's ok, but he was only human, just like the rest of us. Give him credit for figuring out the simple solution to relativity and the photoelectric effect (which gave us General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics), and for being a good, intelligent, compassionate person. Don't make him into a saint. |
Thank you for a good post which tries to make a legend human. I think the largest problem is that people, me included, do nopt kno too much about Einstein. We just hear all these fabulous stories, and quotes, without ever getting the real perspective.
"Einstein, he's cool right?" Is all we ever really get to know about him. If you don't want to dig deep into a biography of some kind.
| Indi wrote: |
| and as a philosopher he flat out sucked |
He was probably a better philosopher than any of us, though
| nilsmo wrote: | ||
He was probably a better philosopher than any of us, though |
You know, that's actually not necessarily true. ^_^; He really, really sucked. Dude was a great physicist, sure, but was a really lousy philosopher.
| Indi wrote: | ||||
You know, that's actually not necessarily true. ^_^; He really, really sucked. Dude was a great physicist, sure, but was a really lousy philosopher. |
Oh! That's 'lousy' statement. He gave us the most profound theories of all times. And in fact, he mathematically proved what was known to Indians thousands of years ago. You can find that he took inspiration directly from ancient Indian texts, most importantly the Bhagavat Gita, which was directly spoken by God's earthly incarnation Krishna.
He was God's man.
| supernova1987a wrote: | ||||||
Oh! That's 'lousy' statement. He gave us the most profound theories of all times. And in fact, he mathematically proved what was known to Indians thousands of years ago. You can find that he took inspiration directly from ancient Indian texts, most importantly the Bhagavat Gita, which was directly spoken by God's earthly incarnation Krishna. He was God's man. |
Why is it that every religious zealot wants to claim Einstein?
Einstein read the Bhagavat Gita, sure. He did NOT base his mathematics or his physics on it.
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| sivaganesh1232000 wrote: |
| I say he is my Favorite scientist...
What about you... His Quotes are # "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." # "Imagination is more important than knowledge." # "Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love." # "I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details." # "The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax." # "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." # "The only real valuable thing is intuition." # "A person starts to live when he can live outside himself." # "I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice." # "God is subtle but he is not malicious." http://static.flickr.com/77/198867556_e5cd1b28c2.jpg |
hummmm
he waz the master brain
iam fan of him
| Bikerman wrote: |
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Why is it that every religious zealot wants to claim Einstein? Einstein read the Bhagavat Gita, sure. He did NOT base his mathematics or his physics on it. |
Well he is quoted as saying "I have made the Gita as the main source of my inspiration and guidance for the purpose of scientific investigations and formulation of my theories."
"religious zealot?"
Why? are you non-religious?
aH!
He was one of the greatest minds. Talks will continue.[/quote]
| supernova1987a wrote: | ||||||
Oh! That's 'lousy' statement. He gave us the most profound theories of all times. |
"Lousy"? It's true. Just because he was a brilliant physicist doesn't mean he was brilliant at everything he did. He was, in fact, a terrible father, for example. If you want to try to deify him, you will find that it won't work as well as you hope it will. The man was a human being, just like the rest of us - a good physicist, sure, but not even the best, and even if he was that doesn't mean he was good at anything else.
| supernova1987a wrote: |
| And in fact, he mathematically proved what was known to Indians thousands of years ago. You can find that he took inspiration directly from ancient Indian texts, most importantly the Bhagavat Gita, which was directly spoken by God's earthly incarnation Krishna.
He was God's man. |
Oh dear. ^_^; You're lucky Einstein's dead, because if he heard you say any of that tripe he'd bite your head off. He hated it when groups tried to claim him as one of their own in order to push their own agendas, and he really didn't think much of people assigning beliefs to him that he did not actually have.
In this specific case, he would have told you he was most certainly not "God's man", because "God", as you talk about it, is a silly idea.
| supernova1987a wrote: | ||
Well he is quoted as saying "I have made the Gita as the main source of my inspiration and guidance for the purpose of scientific investigations and formulation of my theories." |
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| "religious zealot?"
Why? are you non-religious? aH! |
Religious zealot = one who is zealous (fervent or avid) about their religion. Are you saying that is not an accurate description?
(Of course it could alternatively mean a follower of a 1st century CE Jewish political movement, but I think it is pretty clear, from the context, that this was not the intended meaning in this case).
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| He was one of the greatest minds. Talks will continue. |
One quote I remember from my MBA days for Albert was: "Imagination is more important than knowledge".
Interesting thought.
Interesting thought.
| myleshi wrote: |
| One quote I remember from my MBA days for Albert was: "Imagination is more important than knowledge".
Interesting thought. |
A great one.
Another one I also liked was:
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| As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.
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Albert Einsten was definitely one of the genius contributors to mankind. He thought outside the box and did not let anything get in his way of his research and discoveries. As far as I know, his theory of relativity was the most important discovery in physics after Newton's Law of Thermodynamics.
Newton, for all his greatness, should not be credited with the 2nd law of thermodynamics. I think Robert Clausius would have a much greater claim to that particular 'honour'.
I remember one of his saying...
"People try to do many things which they can not do... and waist lots
of time. you should hard work for those things with a little chance
to get success"
i like him becouse, he could solve tough problems with pencile and paper alone!!
"People try to do many things which they can not do... and waist lots
of time. you should hard work for those things with a little chance
to get success"
i like him becouse, he could solve tough problems with pencile and paper alone!!
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