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Psycho_X52
Did you noticed that a clip recorded with a normal camera (no matter how expensive it is) has a different feeling than those in cinema? The motion seems different....
Do you know any software that makes that feeling?
I want to make a project for my class (like "Minority report" http://imdb.com/title/tt0181689 Very Happy )
And I would like to give the clip that movie feeling. It would be great if I could add that Steven Spielberg effect Very Happy.
Alaskacameradude
Ok, there have been entire books written on this subject. I'll give you some of the highlights though.

1. Normal video is recorded interlaced and at a higher frame rate than film. Film is 24 frames per second....video is 29.97 frames per second but interlaced so 59.94 fields (half frames) per second. Newer video cameras can record in progressive and at 24 frames per second to more closely emulate film...or you can use a software converter like Gramme Nattresses filters or Magic Bullet to convert your interlaced video to the 24 frames progressive 'look'. This is part of the film look as film has more 'motion blur' as moving objects move more between frames as there are fewer frames. Very simplified explanation, but the solution is to buy a camera that shoots 24P or get a NLE plug in that converts to 24P if you want this look.

2. This is MUCH more important in my eyes. Film is LIT WELL. Learn about lighting and light things well. Most films don't just blast light on a scene to get the ambient light level up....they create 'pools' of light and dark....to draw your eyes to certain areas. If you learn to light well, that will be the BIGGEST thing you can do to improve your stuff. Solution, get a book on lighting and buy a lighting kit and PRACTICE!!!!!

3. Depth of field. Most film cameras have bigger sensors and use this to 'rack' areas of the picture out of focus and focus the viewers attention and the area that is IN focus. Solution...buy a camera with bigger chips.....at least 1/2 inch. Or, use ND filters and open up your iris....move your subject away from the background, and use your focus to throw the background out of focus.

4. Camera moves. Most film has 'dolly and crane' moves that are smooth and look very good. Zooms can't emulate this as zooming is a 'flat' move that doesn't have the differentiation between foreground and background. Handholding the camera and moving with it will give you the proper 'dimensional look' but it will look shaky and crappy. Solution? Get a steadicam....a steadicam Merlin will do very nicely for smaller cameras and you can pull of the 'dolly and crane' moves with it that will look VERY smooth and professional.....as you are moving the camera through space, WITHOUT the little jiggles of handholding the camera.

Hopefully some of this helps.
Alaskacameradude
Oh yeah, one more thing.

5. Don't use your video 'as is'. You can ALWAYS improve it by playing with it in your NLE. One of the things I do is to throw a 3-way color correction filter on my clips RIGHT AWAY. I usually like to increase the saturation a little. Then I throw in a 'film gamma curve.' You can 'crush' the blacks and 'pop' the whites to give it a contrasty pop. Or you can do a TON of other things with this filter....this is really one of the things Magic Bullet's and Nattress film look filters do for you without you having to know how to do this yourself....these filters convert to 24P AND do the color correction for you....and you can tweak them as well....but Color correction is a HUGE part of the 'look' of a film.
irishmark
there i was thinking i could get my teeth in to this one and there goes alaskaman with his un-ending knowledge so all i can say is i agree witrh him
Psycho_X52
Shocked wow... I was hoping for a few color filters

So it's not that easy...
I can follow the #4 and #5 tip... #2 is very important, but it takes time, and my project has to be ready on monday Rolling Eyes

Thanks Alaskacameradude for the pro Filmmaking tips Smile


@irishmark
Yup, I wasn't expecting for such a professional answer myself.
Psycho_X52
[UPDATE]

After working day and night on my video project I mentioned in the first post, I've encountered in the last 24 hours several problems.
12:00 couldn't find chromakey colored paper at the store;
15:00 making the background...preparing the set...
16:00 remaking the script, gathering infos...
20:00 recording
I first moved my computer to another room so I could have a nice background for recording myself with the webcam.
21:30 finished recording, moved the computer back
22:00 I realized that the software I used to capture video didn't saved my settings, so just the first clip was at 640*480, the rest 12 where at 320*280.
23:15 short nap on the keyboard Very Happy
23:30 woke up, continue editing...
1:20 fall asleep...
5:30 woke up, continue editing....
9:30 - 10:00 finished editing every part... just montage needed.
The software I used made the clips by default avi with no compression...a simple animation was more than 200MB. I noticed that if I add a compression filter it became about 5MB.... So I used ffmpeg
11:30 finished the montage and correlating the sound... just save the clip
minutes remaining (each step =1second) : 80, 50, 38, 33, 40, 55, ........ 500.... what?! I had to be at school at 12:30
12:00 desperately trying to render again, canceling, rendering....
12:30 googled and found that ffmpeg was the worst compression codec I could use Sad
13:00 (presentation began at school) I was trying every conversion software and video editors I could think of
13:30 I saved only the soundtrack
13:35 Idea record with a screen capture software.
13:50 making the CD
13:51 the CD was written, but it won't came out x(
13:52 restarted, got the CD and went out
14:20 the project was set to be the last presented...
I've made it to the presentation! Yey!
The video's quality was awful, the sound was partially muted (I had no time to correct it, or to add music)
Some teachers consider it as "the best" Very Happy "original, as always" Smile

My advice: NEVER USE FFMPEG (or any other ffdshow filter) WITH MOVIEMAKER !!!!!!!!
Alaskacameradude
Well, I don't mean to sound like a know it all so sorry if I come across that way. I'm really just trying to give some tips. Of course the problem is that most of these take time and money! I say just use the ones you can right now and work on the rest. It has taken me 5 years to get my business where it is right now, and all I do is local TV stuff and commercials. I'm able to use most of my own tips now, as I've put a lot of the money I made back into my business so I have some of the stuff I talked about. But compared to most people in this industry I know absolutely nothing. I just had the opportunity to work on a big film and was reminded of how little I know compared to the guys who have REAL budgets (think in the hundreds of thousands PER DAY!!! I didn't even know half the terms these guys were throwing around!) I'm lucky to get $1000-$2000 for a TV spot so I have to come up with 'cheaper' ideas. Then there are the people that are just doing it for fun and think that $1000-$2000 would be great. So there are various levels to this stuff. Just use what you can....get some white cardboard use it as a 'bounce' to fill in light from the sun on your subject...use the 3 way color corrector filter in your NLE to add saturation (or remove it if that is the look you are going for).....there is actually a lot of stuff you can do in post to improve even the footage from a cheap $300 DV camcorder. Anyways, I'm on this board to try and answer any questions about this stuff because I was lucky enough to have a couple guys who taught me a bunch so I'm just trying to keep the cycle going! So feel free to ask anything and I'll do my best to answer! O yeah, feel free to check out my stuff. My site is:
www.gforcevideo.com

It's mostly pretty low budget TV spots (in the demos section), but I'm hoping to add some more videos there soon....of course working on my website is pretty low priority compared to my paying work, so hopefully I'll get some free time soon!
Alaskacameradude
Psycho_X52 wrote:
[UPDATE]

After working day and night on my video project I mentioned in the first post, I've encountered in the last 24 hours several problems.
12:00 couldn't find chromakey colored paper at the store;
15:00 making the background...preparing the set...
16:00 remaking the script, gathering infos...
20:00 recording
I first moved my computer to another room so I could have a nice background for recording myself with the webcam.
21:30 finished recording, moved the computer back
22:00 I realized that the software I used to capture video didn't saved my settings, so just the first clip was at 640*480, the rest 12 where at 320*280.
23:15 short nap on the keyboard Very Happy
23:30 woke up, continue editing...
1:20 fall asleep...
5:30 woke up, continue editing....
9:30 - 10:00 finished editing every part... just montage needed.
The software I used made the clips by default avi with no compression...a simple animation was more than 200MB. I noticed that if I add a compression filter it became about 5MB.... So I used ffmpeg
11:30 finished the montage and correlating the sound... just save the clip
minutes remaining (each step =1second) : 80, 50, 38, 33, 40, 55, ........ 500.... what?! I had to be at school at 12:30
12:00 desperately trying to render again, canceling, rendering....
12:30 googled and found that ffmpeg was the worst compression codec I could use Sad
13:00 (presentation began at school) I was trying every conversion software and video editors I could think of
13:30 I saved only the soundtrack
13:35 Idea record with a screen capture software.
13:50 making the CD
13:51 the CD was written, but it won't came out x(
13:52 restarted, got the CD and went out
14:20 the project was set to be the last presented...
I've made it to the presentation! Yey!
The video's quality was awful, the sound was partially muted (I had no time to correct it, or to add music)
Some teachers consider it as "the best" Very Happy "original, as always" Smile

My advice: NEVER USE FFMPEG (or any other ffdshow filter) WITH MOVIEMAKER !!!!!!!!


I'm sorry! If it's any consolation to you I totally screwed up my first paying job when I started my business and had to issue a refund. I also totally screwed my first shoot as a TV news photog out of college....didn't white balance and came back with blue video that they couldn't run on the air. Many TV guys don't consider you a pro until you have made every mistake there is to make two times. As long as you learn from it it's all good.

A couple tips.

Pretty much any blue or green paper will work for chroma key. It doesn't have to be a certain 'hue' of blue or green. The reason blue and green are used is because it is on the opposite sides of the color wheel from skin tones. You don't have to worry about keying out a person (unless he or she is wearing a green shirt or blue jeans!) So just get blue or green paper and don't wear anything blue or green!! Then use the eyedropper in your NLE to select your papers color to key out. You can actually key out ANY color including red, but red is kinda close to skin tone color so you might get some weird 'skin disease' as some of the skin is keyed out as well.

Don't compress your videos until you are done editing! I know it takes a ton of disk space, most pros advise having a separate disk drive for your video to go on. I have FOUR external hard drives for video projects....a 300gig, a 150gig, a 100 gig, and a 500gig. Depending on how many paying projects I have going on they can ALL be full of video!!!! After you are totally done with the project, I dump an uncompressed version to tape, and then make a MPEG-2 (DVD) version as well. Usually I also make a H.264 version, and maybe one or two web versions....a quicktime file, a Windows Media version, and a Flash version. But I always have the uncompressed version to go back and make dubs from if needed.

Ummm...only other thing I can think of is getting a new computer to speed up the rendering. I need to do this myself as I am doing EVERYTHING (including all videos on my website) on an old G4 1.5 ghz mac powerbook laptop. Takes forever to render. I think I will end up buying one of the new 8 core MacPro Intels that can run both OS X and Windows Vista.

Other than that, congratulations on your filmmaking experience! Always be willing to learn from yourself and others and you'll go far!
Psycho_X52
Thanks again for the tips Smile
The problem with the chromakey was that I couldn't find bigger sheets of colored paper... was in a rush and white cardboard was the only thing I could find Sad



I thought that by using a compression filter will make it easier for Movie Maker. Seems I was wrong...

Alaskacameradude wrote:

I dump an uncompressed version to tape, and then make a MPEG-2 (DVD) version as well.

What device do you use to print a movie on a tape?

Alaskacameradude wrote:

Many TV guys don't consider you a pro until you have made every mistake there is to make two times. As long as you learn from it it's all good.


So true....
Alaskacameradude
Psycho_X52 wrote:
Thanks again for the tips Smile
The problem with the chromakey was that I couldn't find bigger sheets of colored paper... was in a rush and white cardboard was the only thing I could find Sad



I thought that by using a compression filter will make it easier for Movie Maker. Seems I was wrong...

What device do you use to print a movie on a tape?


So true....


Ahh....I see. One time I bought a dark green sheet at a Jo Ann's fabric store, tacked it on the wall with thumbtacks and blasted it with a worklight. Put one light on the subject and hoped for the best....and guess what?? I was able to pull a pretty good key. Surprised the heck out of me, but software keyers are getting better and better! It's worth it to try if you can get ahold of any green or blue material....paper, cloth, whatever. I have a photoflex 5x7 portable greenscreen now that folds up into a tiny bag, but try anything! Sometimes you just don't have time though.

As for printing the movie to tape, I use a Sony DSR-11 DVCAM deck. I bought it as B-stock as it was used as a demo unit for NAB.....I paid about $1200 for it at the time and the street price was about $1600 so they aren't cheap. (Not sure what they are going for these days but I bet it's over $1000). Don't despair though.... in your case you can just use your camcorder! Hook it up via firewire to your computer and print your finished program back to tape. Once you hook your camcorder up to the computer with the firewire cable you should be able to view the finished video on the camcorders LCD screen....you may have to change a setting in the editing program to allow this. Then you hit record on the camera and playback the video on the computer. You now have the high quality version recorded on tape....and if you ever need to you can go back and get the original high quality version to make dubs from and to make web versions or DVD version from.
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