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Youtube blocked in Indonesia.





paul_indo
First, I would like to know why my first post on this topic was removed? And don't say I didn't quote sources, I was the source of that news as I live in Indo and I was merely reporting the news before it made it into a newspaper.

I also stated that I would provide confirming news sources ASAP. Here is one.

Quote:
YouTube, MySpace blocked in Indonesia

Sydney Herald
April 9, 2008 - 3:50PM


Indonesian internet companies blocked access to YouTube and MySpace, heeding a government order aimed at stopping people from watching a film critical of the Quran.

The 15-minute film, created and posted by Dutch anti-immigration politician Geert Wilders, has been available on blogs and file-sharing sites since March 27.

The Indonesian information ministry last week ordered internet service providers to block sites where Wilders' film appears because it ``could disturb relations between the faiths''.

The order lasts until the websites remove the film.

"We are hoping for understanding from internet users,'' said ministry spokesman Suprawoto, who uses a single name. "This is not just an issue for Indonesia, this is a universal one.''

The country's main internet providers all said they had temporarily blocked YouTube, MySpace, Google Video and other file-sharing websites.

Some Indonesians, especially people who use those sites for business, protested the block.

Budi Dhima wrote on local website Detik.com that she made a living selling Muslim dresses and headscarves via Multiply, one of the blocked sites.

"I'm going to go bankrupt!" she said. "My customers are on Multiply."

Thailand blocked YouTube for four months last year because of clips it deemed offensive to its king. The ban was lifted after YouTube's owner, Google, agreed to bar from YouTube any videos that break Thai laws or offend the Thai people.

In February, YouTube was inaccessible in many countries for several hours after the government of Pakistan ordered internet providers to block it, citing clips in which it said Wilders made denigrating remarks about Islam.

Pakistan had called for a block of YouTube only within that country; the larger block was accidental, according to a senior manager at Renesys, a U.S. company that tracks the pathways of the internet.

Wilders' film intersperses scenes of recent terror attacks with verses from the Quran, Islam's holy book, and speeches from Islamic extremists calling for attacks on non-Muslims. It has been condemned as racist and misleading by governments around the world.

Indonesia is the world's most populous Muslim nation, but its government is secular. Hard-line interpretations of the faith generally do not attract much support in Indonesia.

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has condemned the film, and there have been several small street protests against it, as there have been in the Netherlands.


http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/youtube-myspace-blocked-in-indonesia/2008/04/09/1207420441053.html

As a typical knee jerk government reaction it will probably do more harm then good and anyone can still download fitna using torrents anyway which is a much easier faster way of doing it.

Islam seems to be totally paranoid of any form of criticism. Why is that?
coolclay
Welcome to a Islamic nation! Radical Islamists will do everything they can to control everything, especially media, and religion.
Soulfire
How are you to control someone when they can see others' opinions?

Ergo, Youtube should be banned from all counties/religions/ethnicities/whatever that would like total control over their people.
genchan
I think the ban has been lifted. The last news I read was that there was a discussion between concerned parties and a decision was made by the government to lift the ban.

I guess there were certain concerns that the government felt it was necessary to do so. I wonder how the discussion changed the government decision to lift the ban.
Boffel
Not again?

What they think they is? Get the blockers in jail, and make your land a democratic land.
jordygrunn
huh?
crap!
but i live in europe... Wink
tadssa
there will be 1000's of methods to access the banned website .
leontius
Quote:
I think the ban has been lifted. The last news I read was that there was a discussion between concerned parties and a decision was made by the government to lift the ban.


Yes it was lifted, and now we can all access Youtube just fine (I am in Indonesia at the moment).

Quote:
there will be 1000's of methods to access the banned website .


In the first day of the ban, I got a few emails from my friends and strangers telling me which sites got the proxy to bypass the ban. It means that so many people knew about a technology called proxy, and the government is so stupid thinking that the average internet users (not average actually, because they have the necessary bandwidth to access Youtube) did not know about this technique.
HalfBloodPrince
Get a proxy and stop crying.
missdixy
Wow that sounds awful. That just makes me real glad to be living somewhere I can surf pretty much whatever website I want. But a proxy SHOULD work no?
HalfBloodPrince
missdixy wrote:
Wow that sounds awful. That just makes me real glad to be living somewhere I can surf pretty much whatever website I want. But a proxy SHOULD work no?


Yes, it should Smile
martinwalter111
I think the ban was lifted. The latest news I've read that there was a discussion between stakeholders and a decision by the government to remove ban.I guess there was some concern that the Government considers it necessary in this. I wonder how does the debate the government's decision to lift the ban changed.
deanhills
I just can't understand why they would want to ban YouTube. What would the reason be?
inuyasha
That's quite normal in China. Youtube, as well as Facebook, Twitter and many other foreign websites has been banned for years.
silverdown
Wow if i couldn't access my Youtube id be going bonkerz
inuyasha
deanhills wrote:
I just can't understand why they would want to ban YouTube. What would the reason be?

I don't know why Indonesia banned Youtube. But these websites are banned in China for they are beyond the control of the Chinese government. So we don't have facebook or twitter. We have Sina Weibo and Tencent Microblog instead. We don't have Youtube. We have Ku6, Tudou and Youku. A website whose server is located in mainland China is secure against abused political views.

There are still some positive effects in a way. The brand-new native websites offer more jobs for graduates(though the increasing population remains a big problem up till now). Besides, the average bandwidth of China is only 2.7KB/s. You can imagine how upset it is to visit a foreign video website. So a native website may give better experience. Umm... The condition seems improving, at least Frihost is fast here~ Very Happy

We can still visit banned websites anyway, with a software named WallProxy~ But most people won't bother to use it, and perhaps neither will you gradually, since you may find nothing or nobody related to your reality life. Sad
johans
really? i don't know that... whole Indonesia banned?
deanhills
Glad I don't live in Indonesia. Don't know what I would do without YouTube. I seem to have it permanently open these days playing music while I'm working on my Websites or contributing to Forums.
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