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The New Gasoline- Salt Water!

 


Ireon
There is a new invention created by a 63-year-old man named John Kanzius. He has created an alternative fuel out of salt water. He made the RFG, or Radio Frequency Generator, which was originally put into use as a cancer killer. When he turned it on some salt water, it caught fire. The only downside is that it only says alight when the RFG is turned on. But, if we could build smaller RFG's, our cars would run on the one thing we have a huge supply of- salt water.
Andrew426
Ireon wrote:
There is a new invention created by a 63-year-old man named John Kanzius. He has created an alternative fuel out of salt water. He made the RFG, or Radio Frequency Generator, which was originally put into use as a cancer killer. When he turned it on some salt water, it caught fire. The only downside is that it only says alight when the RFG is turned on. But, if we could build smaller RFG's, our cars would run on the one thing we have a huge supply of- salt water.


How does he intend to power the RFG? batteries?
ocalhoun
I really doubt salt water contains enough energy to power a car. That is if it contains any energy at all. I suspect most if not all of the energy of that fire is coming from the RFG.
Though, if the salt water was indeed releasing energy, enough to power the RFG and then a little more, it would be a great way to make electricity at power plants.
Psycho_X52
Well, salt is sodium chloride (NaCl) and watch what sodium does when mixed with water Very Happy
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=sodium&search_type= (check the first 3)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=raC7PgRI_wo

If the RFG could breaks the NaCl molecule into Na and Cl2 it should produce energy....
ocalhoun
^yes, but that is because the molecule is in a lower energy state when combined into NaCl. I suspect that when it releases the energy, it returns to salt. How much energy does it take to break the molecule?
Luciferdf2
Isnt the 1st time its been invented. Alot of people have found ways to run cars on water and other things. Everytime they do there are to many laws put into place and they dont have enough money to get there idea off the ground. Who else comes in to help them out but a oil company to buy out there idea and its never heard from again.


If you own a diesel car you can strain used cooking oil through a coffee filter to get out the impurities. You do not need any other modifacations
ocalhoun
Luciferdf2 wrote:
You do not need any other modifacations

Fuel line heaters would be good to keep it from congealing in the fuel lines, but other than that you need no modifications. I know one person who dumps the stuff in without filtering. He just has to replace his truck's fuel filters more often. (Most diesels have easily accessible fuel filters because they have to be changed relatively often even with normal fuel.)
Ghost Rider103
Well I have never heard about this until now.

That is pretty crazy though if it will work, I would like to see it run in a car performance wise.
bigt
Ireon wrote:
There is a new invention created by a 63-year-old man named John Kanzius. He has created an alternative fuel out of salt water......one thing we have a huge supply of- salt water.


That would be awesome to see, as we do have an abundant supply of salt water. Guess we'll see where it goes.
Arnie
Psycho_X52 wrote:
Well, salt is sodium chloride (NaCl) and watch what sodium does when mixed with water Very Happy
Watch what sodium does when mixed with chlorine. As you've seen the reaction is indeed very exothermic, but that means that the product is very low in energy. And guess what, that product is NaCl. Do you realise that all the energy that was released in the reaction, is no longer in the products - so the "more spectacular" the reaction, the "less spectacular" the product?
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If the RFG could breaks the NaCl molecule into Na and Cl2 it should produce energy....
"Breaking" NaCl (actually it involves ion transfer from Cl- to Na+) should first cost energy that has to be delivered by the RFG. In an ideal situation the amount of energy required for breaking equals what you get out of the Na+Cl2 reaction, but in reality you get less usable energy than what you have to put into it (due to entropic effects)

Although an NaCl solution is a little higher in energy than NaCl and water separated (it has a positive enthalpy change) that effect is minimum. Besides, extracting that energy would mean getting the NaCl out of solution, because you can't extract energy from a chemical system without changing the system to a lower-energy state (by the First Law of thermodynamics).
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