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Liu
http://www.abc.net.au/ra/programguide/stories/200803/s2197420.htm

Taiwan has a new president Ma Ying Jeou that nearly takes a 180 deg turn from it's previous president's ideals. Many are outright pissed of the outcome however because they believe Ma Ying Jeou will hand over Taiwan to China. For those that don't know, there's a heated debate and clash of heads between China and Taiwan because China believes that Taiwan is part of China, however Taiwan believes that they are its own independent country. I'm really hoping that this current president will help put at ease the tensions between the two country, because the previous president really exacerbated the relationship.
jwellsy
I thought Taiwan was basically given to China at the end of WWII.
But, China didn't really know what to do with it so they ignored it.
Now that the Chinese economy is waking up they realize how valuable Taiwan is.
In the meantime the Taiwanese economy has integrated with western culture.
I can certainly understand that they would not want to go backward economically.

That's an issue I would love to hear the US presidential candidates debate.
Then again they will never tell the truth about anything.
MaxStirner
jwellsy wrote:
I thought Taiwan was basically given to China at the end of WWII.
But, China didn't really know what to do with it so they ignored it.
Now that the Chinese economy is waking up they realize how valuable Taiwan is.
In the meantime the Taiwanese economy has integrated with western culture.
I can certainly understand that they would not want to go backward economically.

That's an issue I would love to hear the US presidential candidates debate.
Then again they will never tell the truth about anything.


True, Formosa and Pescadores Islands were ceded to China in 1945, but it was the loss of the Kuomintang and their retreat to these islands that has caused the division (with the Chinese Communist Party claiming the mainland as The "People's Republic of China" and the Chiang Kai-shek followers founding Formosa, aka Taiwan, Republic of China, Chinese Taipei).
Reducing Chinese motivations on the Taiwan issue to simple economics is, I think, to much of a generalization. China (PRC) has from day 1 claimed ownership of Taiwan and, historically, they do have a case. Taiwan (as were Hong Kong and Macau) is rather a matter of national pride and territorial integrity, than economics.
Moonspider
jwellsy wrote:
That's an issue I would love to hear the US presidential candidates debate.


I don't think there's much to debate, unless a candidate wishes to change U.S. policy with regard to Taiwan and the PRC.

China/Taiwan: Evolution of the “One China” Policy — Key Statements from Washington,
Beijing, and Taipei - Summary wrote:
Despite apparently consistent statements in over three decades, the “one China” policy concerning Taiwan remains somewhat ambiguous and subject to different interpretations. Apart from questions about what the “one China” policy entails, issues have arisen about whether U.S. presidents have stated clear positions and have changed or should change policy, affecting U.S. interests in security and democracy. In Part I, this CRS Report discusses the “one China” policy since the United States began in 1971 to reach presidential understandings with the PRC government. Part II documents the evolution of policy as affected by legislation and articulated in key statements by Washington, Beijing, and Taipei. This report will be updated.

Policy on the “one China” concept covers three major issue areas: sovereignty over Taiwan; PRC use of force or coercion against Taiwan; and cross-strait dialogue. The United States recognized the Republic of China (ROC) government in Taipei until the end of 1978 and has maintained a relationship with Taiwan since recognition of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) government in Beijing in 1979. The United States did not explicitly state the sovereign status of Taiwan in the three U.S.-PRC Joint Communiques of 1972, 1979, and 1982. The United States “acknowledged” the “one China” position of both sides of the Taiwan Strait. U.S. policy has not recognized the PRC’s sovereignty over Taiwan; has not recognized Taiwan as a sovereign country; and has considered Taiwan’s status as undetermined.

The Taiwan Relations Act (TRA) of 1979, P.L. 96-8, has governed the U.S. relationship with Taiwan, in the absence of formal diplomatic recognition. The TRA stipulates the U.S. expectation that the future of Taiwan “will be determined” by peaceful means. The TRA specifies that it is U.S. policy, among the stipulations: to consider any non-peaceful means to determine Taiwan’s future “a threat” to the peace and security of the Western Pacific and of “grave concern” to the United States; “to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character;” and “to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion” jeopardizing the security, or social or economic system of Taiwan’s people. The TRA provides a congressional role in determining security assistance “necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capability.” In addition, just before issuing the August 17, 1982 Communique, President Reagan offered “Six Assurances” to Taipei, including questions about any U.S. role in cross-strait talks.

Since the mid-1990s, U.S. security interests have been challenged increasingly by the PRC’s military modernization and moves in Taiwan perceived by Beijing as promoting de jure independence. President Clinton deployed two aircraft carriers near Taiwan during the 1995-1996 crisis. President Bush does not support Taiwan’s independence or membership in the U.N. and opposes unilateral changes to the “status quo” (including a referendum on U.N. membership for Taiwan during its presidential election on March 22, 2008). Congress has oversight of the TRA and U.S. management of the Taiwan Strait situation. Members of Congress have supported continued arms sales to Taiwan, expanded contacts with Taiwan’s senior officials, and Taiwan’s participation in international organizations.


Source: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL30341.pdf
jwellsy
Here's an interesting development.
US sent Taiwan nuclear missile components by mistake.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gZLbsP8Gy1cdGpxxEBWpNP9ys3MQ
myroom
congratulation to our mr.ma.
i believe he will become a good president of taiwan. obviously, he will win the election.
in my country, politic tsumani happened a week before the taiwan election day. the government had been deny by 2/3 majority. nobody can believe it even myself the next day morning when read the newspaper.
well done, these people.
guhuai
perhaps he is not more than a joke
takashiro
Indeed it is! Taiwan has been a province of China for many centuries. If the Anti-Japanese War hadn't happened, Taiwan won't be "independent" at all. It's said that now most people who live in Taiwan doesn't care about that whether Taiwan will return to its homeland. Sad But I believe Taiwan will be back someday. No one will be able to or supposed to divide China.
MaxStirner
takashiro wrote:
Indeed it is! Taiwan has been a province of China for many centuries. If the Anti-Japanese War hadn't happened, Taiwan won't be "independent" at all. It's said that now most people who live in Taiwan doesn't care about that whether Taiwan will return to its homeland. Sad But I believe Taiwan will be back someday. No one will be able to or supposed to divide China.


With the "Anti-Japanese War" I am assuming you are referring to the First Sino-Japanese War (1894-1895). The Qing Dynasty did cede Taiwan and the Pescadores to Japan in 1895, but ,as far as I am aware, China reclaimed both in 1945, both legally and de facto, since Japanese troops (in Taiwan) surrendered to the Republic of China. Today's status of Taiwan can rather be traced, in my opinion, back to the defeat of the ROC by the PRC and their retreat to Taiwan.
free9
Hope that cross-strait reunification can!
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