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the_mailman
ive been wondering. who invented stuff like kissing, paper, or even reproduction. dont say god and google freaks stay out of this. this is just like a debate forum basically.
Bikerman
This is neither a question of philosophy or religion so I don't know why it is posted here.
the_mailman
i thought it was a type of philosophy post almost. hm my bad. you can lock it or whatever. its not that good. Embarassed
Bikerman
Well, I was maybe being a bit harsh, so to close this up:
Kissing - we don't know. The first mention is in the Indian Vedic texts around 1500 BCE.
Paper - generally accepted to have been invented by the Chinese around 105 AD
Reproduction - not invented at all. A necessary feature of all life therefore the first reproduction was 'invented' by the first lifeform - somewhere around 4 billion years ago
the_mailman
nah you werent being harsh. but thanks for the facts. i think that that is pretty cool that you can know that though. did you use google. anyway no problem. i have had people be way worse to me (not on this site though dont worry)
Bikerman
the_mailman wrote:
nah you werent being harsh. but thanks for the facts. i think that that is pretty cool that you can know that though. did you use google. anyway no problem. i have had people be way worse to me (not on this site though dont worry)

Yes I used google to get the date for paper (I knew it roughly but wanted to be exact) and to check the date of the Vedic texts (I knew that it was the Vedic Texts that first mentioned kissing but I couldn't remember which ones so I googled it).
spinout
So who invented the greatest thing of them all: Laughter...
Obvious one must take the blame - some God of a funny kind!
So if there is a god then he/she probabably stand out for beeing the inventor of kisses!
Of course reproduction must be a work of a god!
But paper is not that holy so that can be of a man...
Althought if a god invented paper then it would not be made out of wood but pot... (the storie is that pot is not purposed for smoking but paper and similar)
Bikerman
spinout wrote:
So who invented the greatest thing of them all: Laughter...
Obvious one must take the blame - some God of a funny kind!
So if there is a god then he/she probabably stand out for beeing the inventor of kisses!
Of course reproduction must be a work of a god!
But paper is not that holy so that can be of a man...
Althought if a god invented paper then it would not be made out of wood but pot... (the storie is that pot is not purposed for smoking but paper and similar)

Err...I fail to see what God has to do with the invention of kissing, laughter and reproduction. The last is a feature of life and was therefore 'invented' when life came about - however that happened. The other two are explicable in purely anthropomorphic terms and require no God.
http://www.400monkeys.com/God/
HalfBloodPrince
Lmao. Come on Bikerman, be more original. =)
Bikerman
Well,
I've already given the first sources for kissing. Paper was never made from 'pot'. Early 'paper' was made using the papyrus plant (hence the name 'paper'). Other plants used were paper mulberry, fig and daphne. Flax and hemp were used, at various times, but industrial hemp has very little THC content and would not be much good for smoking.
Laughter is thought to have originated several million years ago when we were still fairly primitive 'primates'. Laughter can be observed in other primates - Chimps, for example. It was only with the developent of control of the facial muscles that we were able to laugh 'at will'.
the_mailman
now this is the debate i was thinking off. this is where the philosophy and religion kicks in. some people are arguing about the invovlement of god and others are arguing about how it was all invented for found by early or even later humans. Very Happy
Bikerman
Those who believe in God will often attribute all inventions to him - it really adds no information and does not help debate. If you wish to assert that God is ultimately responsible for everything then fine, there is little point in further discussing it, because the issue is moot. If, however, you actually want to know when, where and by whom various things were first used, then the answer 'God' is not really very useful or very satisfying.
the_mailman
Bikerman wrote:
Those who believe in God will often attribute all inventions to him - it really adds no information and does not help debate. If you wish to assert that God is ultimately responsible for everything then fine, there is little point in further discussing it, because the issue is moot. If, however, you actually want to know when, where and by whom various things were first used, then the answer 'God' is not really very useful or very satisfying.

no offense but are you atheist?
Bikerman
the_mailman wrote:
no offense but are you atheist?

No offense taken and yes, I am an atheist.
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