Hi all,
Know any good books or tutorials for beginners? I've been using Site points learn "Build your website the right way using HTML and CSS and can't recommend it enough. It's completely XHTML compliant and is a great starting point?
Seen anything else useful? I'd be v interested in finding out about Javascript for beginners type things.
Thanks,
Michael
Well for html pretty much any book will work, it doesnt change much over time so it doesnt matter if it is a little old... When I started I got an o'Reilly guide for html at a library, and I learnt very well html with it.
For CSS I never bought any book, and now I can do anything I want, if you want a book I'm sure you'll find good ones but in the case of CSS I would recommend that you learn by yourself, just designing over and over websites, and asking here in the forum your problems...
W3Schools has good beginner tutorials too...
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| W3Schools has good beginner tutorials too... |
Thanks Ashok and alalex - they're good suggestions. I've had a look through the W3C Schools stuff and it seems good. It is good to learn by trial and error so I'll probably pursue this coupled with what I can find both online and books.
Take it easy,
Michael
A couple of other Sitepoint books I like for CSS are The Art and Science of CSS , and The CSS Anthology: 101 Essential Tips, Tricks, and Hacks. Both of them really helped me in a couple of sites I made.
Another one I like is CSS Mastery: Advanced Web Standards Solutions. For me. it covered alot of the basics of CSS.
w3schools is really useful like an above poster said. Also, you might try NetLibrary (you can google it) and it has a large ebook collection with books like you want. It's free and I've used it many times for college so I know it's in the area of quality you're looking for.
for css style sheets take a look at http://veerle.duoh.com/index.php/blog/comments/designing_a_css_based_template_part_i/ it's really simple and goes through in detail what u hav to do to make ur web page look gud.
Hope this helps
Thanks Phil and everyone else - some great suggestions here. The problem I always find with books is that they can be outdated almost immediately after being printed - the technology moves so fast.
Take it easy,
Michael
Yea, books are very outdated when it comes to coding. As with the internet is always updated ^.^
that's not true. Most languages stay almost exactly the same for over a year, PHP5 for example is half a year old (something like that), do you really think PHP6 will be released and widely used before Christmas? And HTML is even less changed, if you learn XHTML now there is no way you have to learn new stuff in the next 2-3 years.
I think you can learn the language in a year, and after it changes it's not that hard to keep up with the changes.
The HTML DOG
it's a practical guide to XHTML and CSS coding.
it has a website as well: www.htmldog.com
The best thing is to search and read good tutorials, tips and tricks... the bible is A list Apart.
Good thing is watching and examine source code of CSS Zen Garden templates.
And If you need a book ... I'll recommend this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Bulletproof-Web-Design-flexibility-protecting/dp/0321509021
Realy nice and well writted
But You have to know the basics to understand it 
ya the html dog is very nice, its giving great tips
Going to pimp Sitepoint one more time.
Just recently I got another book from them that I have found to to be really neat.
It's called The Ultimate CSS Reference.
It's actually a spin-off of the site's huge on-line CSS reference.
I just find it explains some of the mechanics of CSS, and has helped me understand a thing or two.
And of course, Amazon has the book also.
available here for less.
A lot of bookstores (like Barnes+Noble definitely) have some good books - just walk in and look. I once got a book with the title along the lines of "Learn CSS in 10 minutes" (the basics in 10, the whole thing isn't a 10 minute read) that had some great tutorials and was an extremely good reference book to have.
Check out the library (free!) or the bookstore for books. A book that works for me, does not necessarily work for you. Open the books and choose the one(s) that "speaks your language". If the book is expensive, you should check out Amazon or ebay before you buy :)
If you want paperback books to learn from, I would suggest the SAMS Teach Yourself series. They are easy to follow books. Their website is here - http://www.informit.com/imprint/index.aspx?st=61091 but you'll find lots of these books in your local bookstore such as Waterstones or WH Smiths
If you want to go straight inside of the matter buy a o'reilly book about the matter.
Thanks for useful information.... 
Maybe you can create an account at www.idownz.net there's a PDF e-book you can download for free about css and html.
I think reading books is probably a waste of time. You can learn quicker by looking up tutorials online. Then you can find what you need faster from a much larger collection of information. Yes, w3schools.com has excellent tutorials- very good place to start learning many different languages.
But if you want to understand it completely than it's best to buy a good book.
I want to thank you all for the titels of the books, because I am looking for a good CSS book to learn CSS properly...
I do can say that "Sams Teach Yourself...." are good books.
Greetz
Adri