I wasn't sure where to put this..
but i need some help QUICKLY.
I am not sure if you believe in these types of things, but there is something in my room.. something bad.
there have been bad things happening in my room.. things moving.. hearing things say my name and it is getting worse and worse. it has even shown up in a few pictures.
i took it... imported it to my computer and the main one that was terrifying didn't really show up on the computer but on the cell phones camera. it was plain as day.
last night i couldn't really sleep after dosing off for one second and something breathing in my ear said my name right in it and i looked around really weak and dizzy.
then later on that night.
or around 5 or 6 am.
something else happened.
the scariest thing ever!
i seen a black figure in my room i yelled and no one would come.. it came towards me till it completely blocked out my screams.
then it was trying to choke and suffocate me..
then all the sudden it quit and vanished when someone came in the room.
i SWEAR im not making this up.
what should I do?
concencrate a talisman for protection?
try to bless my house?
what? 
Either stop eating strong cheese before bedtime, or, if you are convinced that these were experiences during the waking hours, consult you doctor fairly urgently since the symptoms are consistent with a psychotic breakdown.
I'm not psychotic..
i had a friend over. he heard the same thing.
i was on the phone with my girlfriend she heard it while i was talking to her.
I don't like cheese anyways it's gross.
someone please reply with a serious reply...
What religion are you?
Just pray to God.
that was my first initial thought... it seemed to piss whatever it was off and it got worse.
Which religion do you follow?
baptist Christian... since i was in a bad wreck and broke my back i haven't been b/c it's hard to get around and stuff..
but i have done rituals like concencrating things and such.
I read a book a few years ago called Interdimentional Communication by Dr. Harder.
It might help you make sense out of what you've experienced.
See if your library can get it for you.
http://www.alibris.com/search/books/qwork/3269806/used/Interdimensional%20Communication:%20The%20Art%20and%20Science%20of%20Talking%20to%20Ghosts,%20Spirits,%20Angels%20&%20Other%20Dead%20People
The readers digest version is that spirits can not lie to you
but they may not be real truthful either and may be deceptive.
You have to make them answer yes or no if they are from the light.
If they won't say that they are from the light, tell them to go away and leave you alone. that's what i have been trying my best to do... make them go away.
or it go away.
one night me and a friend heard it say
"kill steven" and well steven is MY NAME.
i don't think it is anything of light.
| Srs2388 wrote: |
I'm not psychotic..
i had a friend over. he heard the same thing.
i was on the phone with my girlfriend she heard it while i was talking to her.
I don't like cheese anyways it's gross.
someone please reply with a serious reply... |
That was serious it can be that there is something going on in your brain. Psycotic breakdown, any breakdown or a lot of other things that make you imagine stuff. As for others hearing the same thing, this can be explained that others are a bit scared by what you told them imagining the same thing. Paying a few visits a a Psychiatrist just to be sure.
Other possibility is when you eat too much before going to bed you see these things.
Or... some researchers concluded that in a lot of places where there is an "haunting presence" this was caused by sounds wich you can't hear. These can be caused by for example ceiling fan's. Also try closing a few ventilation openings at a time maybe these cause such a high tone. BUT BE VERY CAREFULL if you close too many it may cause there isn't enough airflow and this can kill you(carbonmono-oxide poisoning).
Anyway when "hearing" these tones and being half-a-sleep may result in nightmares that don't go away easily.
Did something changed in your life or house just prior to it began??? Think really carefull before answering this maybe something happeneded something it can be really small that causes this trouble.
Of course it can also be other things that can be explained. Or an combination of both.
I admit that I'm not someone who would believe in a "real" ghost easily. I don't know a lot about "real" ghosts but the above wouldn't hurt. Just to check it doesn't cost any money exept the Psychiatrist.
I'm not trying to make you angry or insult you by suggesting a Psychiatrist. But just keep an open mind and checking and going there. Many people who have some psycological issues don't want to believe it and get angry.
But otherwise:
It won't hurt to ask a priest to bless your house. Or "expel" the ghost if you think that would help. I'm sure a priest would be happy to do that for you.
Last edited by Klaw 2 on Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:49 pm; edited 1 time in totalthanks... but i really honestly don't think i am imagining this because it's something i can just feel... something evil perhaps..
i live in a really small town though i don't think their is a priest around here.
i had a dream a priest was trying to bless the house and send a demon back to hell in my yard... and it got mad and came back and the gates of hell literally opened up in my yard fire was everywhere.
really creepy dream.
one night (not a dream) I was on the phone with my g/f she heard this deep growl when i was outside no animal could have made this kind of sound.
and she kept asking me what it was and i finally told her.
she heard a few things while on the phone with me like through the phone the same things i heard.
i think it has been the cause of several panic attacks as well.
I read a bit back and saw that you wrote that you broke your back. Maybe this and other things caused by this cause a lot of stress.
As for:
| Srs2388 wrote: |
thanks... but i really honestly don't think i am imagining this because it's something i can just feel... something evil perhaps..
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Maybe thats true. But haven't you had a dream that you were a 100% sure of that it was true only to find out that it was not when you woke up? Maybe this is the same.
Last edited by Klaw 2 on Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:59 pm; edited 2 times in total okay... please im not psychotic.
come on someone that believes in ghosts or something reply.
| Srs2388 wrote: |
okay... please im not psychotic.
come on someone that believes in ghosts or something reply. |
How do you know you are not psychotic? The symptoms you describe are classic examples of psychosis.
You have said that you are suffering panic attacks as well. I really would see a doctor.i really don't know i just get to the point of hoping that it gets me... honestly.
because people keep talking shit about me because i can't even work because my back being broken.. people call me lazy bla bla bla tell my girlfriend she can do better and get a guy who has more money.
i was to the point last night of having a razor and saying ****** everything.
but i just tossed it away and tried to sleep.
i then was awoken by that same creepy voice right by my face...
then i tried to talk to a family member about it and they laughed i just got pissed off and decided to say to hell with it.
| Srs2388 wrote: |
i really don't know i just get to the point of hoping that it gets me... honestly.
because people keep talking shit about me because i can't even work because my back being broken.. people call me lazy bla bla bla tell my girlfriend she can do better and get a guy who has more money.
i was to the point last night of having a razor and saying ****** everything.
but i just tossed it away and tried to sleep.
i then was awoken by that same creepy voice right by my face...
then i tried to talk to a family member about it and they laughed i just got pissed off and decided to say to hell with it. |
Which is why I said you need to see a doctor. I was not being funny - I'm deadly serious, and I speak
from personal knowledge and experience. | Srs2388 wrote: |
okay... please im not psychotic.
come on someone that believes in ghosts or something reply. |
Firtsly how do you know you are not? I think it would be good just to visit a docter to test it. As almost all people who are psychotic, depressed or others who have something else mental deny it. And if you are the sooner you find it out the better since the longer you wait the more damage it can do.
But I think bikerman could have put it in a nicer way. This was maybe a bit of a cold way to tell it.
@ bikerman just be a bit nicer to people. okay?
It may help staying at a friends house for a week. I don't know what your current position is where you live, financial etc.
If there is some sounds you can't hear that are causing (partially this) maybe it works to play some really soft (ambient) music like those cd's with rain or rainforrest sounds or trickeling water. Or other ambient music (I reccomend some of moby's music like the cd ambient). And sleeping in other rooms may help too.
Taking some meditation may help too if you calm down it may go over.
As for getting a priest you can look into your phone book or ask some neighbours who go to church to arrange the priest for coming to them.
Last edited by Klaw 2 on Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:33 pm; edited 3 times in totalsorry... I've just had people talk shit about me every time i try to talk to them about it..
well except for my girlfriend.
so I am really defensive about it.
I would go... but i lost my job while i was in the hospital.. now i'll never work again.
so im waiting for my disablity.
so im kinda screwed.
well ain't i lucky! i don't guess i'll go to the doctor. I didn't get the disability... that's just lame.
how can you not get it when you have a hard time just getting around.. when you have 3 bones broken in your back. in the middle of your back at at that.
social security is a crock of shit.
i need vodka... and a cigar.
| Srs2388 wrote: |
sorry... I've just had people talk shit about me every time i try to talk to them about it..
well except for my girlfriend.
so I am really defensive about it.
I would go... but i lost my job while i was in the hospital.. now i'll never work again.
so im waiting for my disablity.
so im kinda screwed.
well ain't i lucky! i don't guess i'll go to the doctor. I didn't get the disability... that's just lame.
how can you not get it when you have a hard time just getting around.. when you have 3 bones broken in your back. in the middle of your back at at that.
social security is a crock of shit.
i need vodka... and a cigar. |
Well what I am reading about your current situation that you are under high stress levels. I don't know what happens to people who can't work because of an accident if they get any financial help etc. Anyway from what I read your life has hit an all time low and I'm very sorry to hear that. But you should concentrate on the more hapy things. Try to have some company at night since it gives a lot of comfort.
And try to avoid any stress, sit somewhere quiet a forrest, listen to the sounds around you an try to meditate. Just closing your eyes an breethe in a slow controlled way with really deep breaths. This may help relieveing some stress. This is the easiest way to try to start with this and see if it helps.thanks... i have been trying desperately... every time i try to relieve my stress something else happens.. i just don't get it.
here's an option:
whenever you feel that eerie experience of yours, just stand up, open your eyes wide and shout
"THERE IS NO GOD! THERE ARE NO GHOSTS!"
and then try to grab that black thing or vigilantly look for where those sounds came from. Best if you switch on you Metallica CD while hunting for nonesense.
you see, you need only to condition your mind, if you tell your mind that these are unreal, i guarantee you a peaceful sleep.
| redhakaw wrote: |
here's an option:
whenever you feel that eerie experience of yours, just stand up, open your eyes wide and shout
"THERE IS NO GOD! THERE ARE NO GHOSTS!"
and then try to grab that black thing or vigilantly look for where those sounds came from. Best if you switch on you Metallica CD while hunting for nonesense.
you see, you need only to condition your mind, if you tell your mind that these are unreal, i guarantee you a peaceful sleep. |
Don't think thats gonna work. | Klaw 2 wrote: |
@ bikerman just be a bit nicer to people. okay? |
No. I try to avoid being unpleasant or rude in all my postings but I am not going to say things
that I don't believe to be true or dress-up my thoughts simply to massage egos. My advice was clear
and civil - and it is based on extensive personal experience and knowledge - take it or leave it.If your having thoughts of suicide, call your doctor now TODAY!
You don't have to live with that kind kind of a burden.
Welbutrin (generic zyban) will help you deal those negative thoughts and the cigars.
Welbutrin is very cheap.
| jwellsy wrote: |
If your having thoughts of suicide, call your doctor now TODAY!
You don't have to live with that kind kind of a burden.
Welbutrin (generic zyban) will help you deal those negative thoughts and the cigars.
Welbutrin is very cheap. |
PLEASE do not suggest specific medications unless you are qualified and have the patients full case
history in front of you. Bupropion (marketed under the brand name Wellbutrin) is a good medication
for some people in cases of clinical depression, but it is not a 'fix-all' and certainly should not be taken
without medical consultation.Are you able to buy Welbutrin in the UK without a DR.'s prescription?
I'm sure you could in Mexico.
I assumed he was in a country that it requires a prescription.
You must have missed the first half of the post.
No, I didn't miss anything. We are now using something called the internet.
Using the internet you can buy all sorts of things - a quick trawl revealed 5 outlets,
and I wasn't even trying too hard. Suggesting presciption medication to someone without
having either the necessary qualifications and knowledge, or knowing what their case-history is,
(particularly when they are in a vulnerable state of mind) is dangerous and irresponsible.
I understand that you advised consulting a doctor - quite right. Leave it at that. Don't then go
on to suggest medication and say how cheap it is.
@Srs2388 - do NOT consider medication (of any sort) without medical consultation.
Conversation seems serious...
People advertising medicine..
Don't take medicine, if you honestly are having thoughts of suicide, call 1-800-784-2433, thats 1-800-SUICIDE. It isn't made up I just looked it up online. If that's not for you just search suicide hotline on google.
If you have a presence in your house the first thing you've got to do is acknowledge it is there. Make sure it isn't a recurring dream, they sometimes can be very realistic, often involving friends and, some say, include symbolic imagery.
If you aren't to the point of googling or yellowbooking a professional ghost hunter or, god forbid, TAPS, then maybe you should try overpowering the spirit's will with your own. If you are up to it, once confronting the voice, tell it that you acknowledge it is there, but this is your house, your safe place, and that "it" has no threshold over you. If you have ever watched Dog Whisperer, you've probably learned to actually feel a certain way to convey that feeling to the dog. Do that with the voice, mentally overpower it. If you confront it in a dream then stand up to it to see what it wants. It might be a facing-your-fear deal.
If it turns out to be increasingly violent with everything you try to do, then contact anybody and everybody who you think might help or could lead you to someone who can help and dont stop looking.
Other Tips
If you have a dog watch for odd behavior and pay attention if it seems like hes trying to tell you something.
If you have an infant, watch their eyes to notice if they become fixed on an area where there is nothing, but the baby definitely sees something.
If you are Christian, hang a Jesus on the Cross above your bead.
Catholic, a rosary.
Superstitious, a dream catcher.
Even more superstitious, make sure there are no mirrors facing an open door because good spirits may see themselves and run away. 
Im sure there are other things you could do, but if you wanted an honest, interested answer, hopefully I helped. If not, help yourself, dont be a coward about it. | Quote: |
If you are Christian, hang a Jesus on the Cross above your bead.
Catholic, a rosary.
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this is proven to work, its a kind of mind conditioning, my younger cousin uses Santa to overcome the boogieman.
though id rather choose my way (you can skip the metallica cd if you like), its dependent of yourself instead of something else | Bikerman wrote: |
No, I didn't miss anything. We are now using something called the internet.
Using the internet you can buy all sorts of things - a quick trawl revealed 5 outlets,
and I wasn't even trying too hard. Suggesting presciption medication to someone without
having either the necessary qualifications and knowledge, or knowing what their case-history is,
(particularly when they are in a vulnerable state of mind) is dangerous and irresponsible.
I understand that you advised consulting a doctor - quite right. Leave it at that. Don't then go
on to suggest medication and say how cheap it is.
@Srs2388 - do NOT consider medication (of any sort) without medical consultation. |
I disagree. Hiding information from people is dangerous.
Trying to censor information is even more dangerous.
Having knowledge that there may be viable alternatives is a good thing.
You stated your feelings, leave it at that.
I too reserve the right to say any thing I want.I didn't hide or try to censor anything - if I wanted to do that I would have reported it to the mods. I called you irresponsible and your advice dangerous. You have no clue about the drug you suggested and how it would affect the person concerned (srs238) - particularly since he is in a wheelchair with a broken back and may already be taking other medication.
You can say whatever you like (within the bounds of decency, legality and the terms and conditions of the boards) and I will defend your right to do so. I will also say what I like and where that involves criticising irresponsible and dangerous advice I will do that as well.
That's right bikerman wasn't censoring anything at all. He only is saying such tings shouldn't be said. Srs238 or someone else with the same problem might decide to buy that medicine on the net taking and then taking it. Wich can lead to serious medical complications, it can make it worse. First you at least have to know what kind of medicines he's already taking. Altough you likely meant that after seeing a docter getting a perscription for that. But you can't be too carefull. Medicines aren't supposed to be in the body you should try to avoid them. Also looking at his medical history might reveal why he shouldn't take the medicines
But guys that'a bit off-topic.
As for people who scream that he should see an docter straight away (or in this case use oversized letters). Just tell them quitly that it may be best to see an docter as soon as possible. "Screaming" at people usually doesn't work and people see it more as a threat and might not do it.
About the suicidal thing of course it's serious but a lot of people consider suicide in their lifes and most people never do it 99.99% don't do it.
As for suicide itself I wouldn't do it there are always some moments in life that are worth living for.
As for hanging: crosses, dreamcatcheror a rosary etc. in you bedroom or around the house might help too. When one' really wants it to work it may give an person some comfort and actually work. This works via the sub-consciousness.
| jwellsy wrote: |
| Bikerman wrote: | No, I didn't miss anything. We are now using something called the internet.
Using the internet you can buy all sorts of things - a quick trawl revealed 5 outlets,
and I wasn't even trying too hard. Suggesting presciption medication to someone without
having either the necessary qualifications and knowledge, or knowing what their case-history is,
(particularly when they are in a vulnerable state of mind) is dangerous and irresponsible.
I understand that you advised consulting a doctor - quite right. Leave it at that. Don't then go
on to suggest medication and say how cheap it is.
@Srs2388 - do NOT consider medication (of any sort) without medical consultation. |
I disagree. Hiding information from people is dangerous.
Trying to censor information is even more dangerous.
Having knowledge that there may be viable alternatives is a good thing.
You stated your feelings, leave it at that.
I too reserve the right to say any thing I want. |
-.- You can't honestly believe that telling someone who is in a very vulnerable position (apparently) to take a specific drug is a good thing unless you're a doctor and have personally reviewed the person's case and know their current situation...
Nobody is hiding anything. The point is that the post recommending a specific medication was a blatantly obvious ignorant suggestion and quite possibly dangerous to the thread starter's life.wow... lots more replies than i thought.
i had a long thought about it. perhaps you are right. i've had 3 panic attacks today.. been depressed all day so i went for a walk.
something scary happened
i actually was thinking about just going out in front of one... i didn't though (obviously)
id really like to try something OTC because i didn't qualify for my disability.
So now i can't go to the doc. because i don't have the money.
i would have if they wouldn't of have denied me .
about the Welbutrin what exactly does it do?
id be more than willing to try it. im seriously desperate.
i just read on that Welbutrin i saw that it can cause seizures and anxiety i wonder if it would make my anxiety attacks worse.
i am taking oxycontin and soma right now... both are the highest doses made. You shouldn't start to take those medicines without consulting a docter it might make things worse since you already take medicines for something else.
And can't you re-apply for that disability thing. If you can prove that you are in need of other medicines too you may get some help. But I don't how bad it is with your back. And how did it hapen?
No. You should not consider taking any anti-depressants whilst on Soma and Oxycontin.
Oxycontin is an opiate pain medicine. Soma is a muscle-relaxant. I don't know enough pharmacology do be precise about the contra-indications but both of those medicines could potentially interact with Wellbutin and produce problems.
It is possible that your current symptoms are a side effect of your existing medication. Soma, for example, can produce both depression and insomnia. Oxycontin can also produce mood disorders.
It would be dangerous and irresponsible to suggest any medication to you and neither should you consider taking any medication which is suggested in a forum such as this. You have no way to check the medical bona-fides of the person making the suggestion. Both the drugs you are currently taking could potentially interact catastrophically with other medication to produce liver-damage or worse.
You must talk to a qualified doctor. I am amazed that this is not an option for you - here in the UK I would simply go and see my GP. I understand that things are different in the US but surely there must be some sort of scheme or system which covers people in your situation?
There are online consultancies available. I hesitate to recommend any in particular because I have never used them and I believe that face to face consultation is necessary in your case. If you really cannot get any medical help then perhaps this might be a last resort. The UK has 'doctorinternet' which I know of - they will charge you a small amount for the advice.
http://www.doctorinternet.co.uk/ewelcome.html
But that is NOT a recommendation and I would still urge you to consult a doctor ASAP. Wel just about anything related to health care in the UK is being paid for by the government. However in the US...... you need health insurance. And getting that is really difficult and when something is wrong with you getting money OUT of the insurance company is even harder.
Have you seen the movie SICKO?? Well after seeing that you'll see how bad the social structure is back in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicko
Example:
Guy cuts 2 tops of his finger, (about 2 cm). He takes them with him to the hospital, and then he has to make a choice:
Let them do his middlefinger $60.000
Or Let them do his ringfinger $12.000
He chose the latter cause he couldn't pay for both.
(EDIT) the prices were even higher.
Last edited by Klaw 2 on Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:15 pm; edited 1 time in total I've not seen the movie - I've seen a few trailers for it. I know the US health care system is very different (and I'm a strong advocate for the UK National Health service), but surely there must be some 'safety net'? I thought it was Federal Law that access to emergency health services must be provided, regardless of ability to pay.
Wel if this would happen in the US:
sick old ladys are put in taxi's and just dumped somewhere cause thay can't pay for the hospital bed.
Then I think it's save to say that if there's an net there are some large holes in it.
And unfortunatly this DOES happen in the United States of America. On the list of best health care countries its on number 33 or something.
| Klaw 2 wrote: |
You shouldn't start to take those medicines without consulting a docter it might make things worse since you already take medicines for something else.
And can't you re-apply for that disability thing. If you can prove that you are in need of other medicines too you may get some help. But I don't how bad it is with your back. And how did it hapen? |
yeah... prolly o have oxycontin and and shit.
i didn't even get to finish gillinf it out.
so the dr. can't sau/// =(
