hey just wondering how many people hate Apple?
i lost support w/ there latest itune update that screwed up on three of my xp's and a vista.
also they dropped support so quickly on my phone and designed it too suck. 
for a moment there I was convinced you were talking about me! lolhaha nice coincidence there! Personaly I can't say that I hate apple, but I do agree they have quite a bit of work to do if they want to compete with the gaming ability of windows.
I will say that apple is a much better OS for people that have no idea what they are doing. After all you open that random FW from someone you dont know, a virus jumps to your computer and dies instantly, because you're on a mac. 
Other than that really no upside.. Most likely because the software selection for both applications and games isn't nearly as varied as the selection for Windows. Plus Macs are expensive, and almost completely proprietary, so you can't open it up and fiddle wit hthe insides and makes changes and upgrades the same way you could on a Windows PC.
| apple wrote: |
| for a moment there I was convinced you were talking about me! lol |
lmao!!! 
| eday2010 wrote: |
| ...and almost completely proprietary, so you can't open it up and fiddle wit hthe insides and makes changes and upgrades the same way you could on a Windows PC. |
Of course you can, I know a lot of people who did. And their computers are still "alive".
Anyway, I don't hate apple, not at all. But I do see why people might:
Their support-system is rather funny, and you are sure not to get anyone you can talk to if you call them. At least no one who can help you.
They have big "keeping the right of (non-) copyright" stuff in most of their programs. (Ok, I am not defending piracy, but what if you want to take a picture of your screen, to keep it as a personal desktop picture, or something?)
In small countries they have very poor support, and barely any places or people who can tell you anything about their products. And when you find someone, he or she might not be very helpful.
And, they advertise themselves as something "special", when having a apple-thingy bacame quite common just a couple of years ago.
And just for you information, I am writing this post on a MacBook 
| Shewolf wrote: |
| eday2010 wrote: | | ...and almost completely proprietary, so you can't open it up and fiddle wit hthe insides and makes changes and upgrades the same way you could on a Windows PC. |
Of course you can, I know a lot of people who did. And their computers are still "alive".
Anyway, I don't hate apple, not at all. But I do see why people might:
Their support-system is rather funny, and you are sure not to get anyone you can talk to if you call them. At least no one who can help you.
They have big "keeping the right of (non-) copyright" stuff in most of their programs. (Ok, I am not defending piracy, but what if you want to take a picture of your screen, to keep it as a personal desktop picture, or something?)
In small countries they have very poor support, and barely any places or people who can tell you anything about their products. And when you find someone, he or she might not be very helpful.
And, they advertise themselves as something "special", when having a apple-thingy bacame quite common just a couple of years ago.
And just for you information, I am writing this post on a MacBook |
I love MacBooks. if i were to buy a laptop I'd likely get one. They are expensive and all, but i dont have any problems with Apple, the products are good. I love my iPod, but i could do without iTunes. Winamp is still better in my books.I just don't like the fact that they're so trendy looking. They don't look professional enough for me to use for work.
| Liu wrote: |
| I just don't like the fact that they're so trendy looking. They don't look professional enough for me to use for work. |
really? i think they look more organized, sleek and professional than PCs do. Unless you mean they just stick out like a sore thumb when the workplace is dominated by PCs.the other day i helped my cousin troubleshoot his apple imac just bought that day and we explored the whole thing...when he tried to shut down the mac..there this message said that we have to force an app to shut down..tried with the instruction(using the manual that came with the new purchase) brute force shut down baaah still cannot shut down..what i do later was just shut down with the button on the imac...stupid imac!!! cant believe just use it on the day he bought it...disappointed ...find it very confusing to use it...
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really? i think they look more organized, sleek and professional than PCs do. Unless you mean they just stick out like a sore thumb when the workplace is dominated by PCs. |
I associate black laptops with professional looking; at least in the IT/CS/Engineering world. I'm sure in the art/design world, macs would be more prominent and considered professional there. Mac puts a lot more effort into aesthetic appeal, which is why you see a lot more different colors out there than the standards.
Whenever I see macs out in the public, I usually see it at a star bucks where people are just there to be "seen".I can't say I hate Apple, especially as I haven't used them much.
I do know of their marketing strategy, though.
Read the article here (notice the ambiguous URL) - http://www.apple.com/support/windowsvirus/
That article is supposed to be an apology from Apple for having shipped a few video iPods preloaded with a virus.
No wonder they sound like this -
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| As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses |
On reading the title for a moment I thought you were referring to the apple fruit.....lols!!.
But as far as the real topic goes I haven't experianced the real apple mania as it might be in other parts of the world, coz apple products are not too common here in india, I haven't seen a single macintosh uptill now.
P.S.:I hope macintosh computers are from apple company, aren't they??
Basically, I don't hate apple.. I am a fan of Apple computers.. I love its PC and iPod... Itunes helps me a lot in podcasts... I just worry coz i dont have an iPod...
But , iMac doesn't have a good compatibility as many don't use iMac compared to Windows...
Why do one need to hate Apple if it features many services like these...
So I just love Apple....
According to me , Apple is a good competitor for Google and Microsoft......
Thats it.......
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| apple wrote: |
| for a moment there I was convinced you were talking about me! lol |
I know I hate you.
Little known fact about me, I use Mac computers. Despite my username, I actually use a wireless keyboard and mouse, the mouse having two buttons, unlike the traditional Mac mouses. I have no problem with Macs, except that their mac vs. pc ads turn customers off to their products. Other than that, I'd say they have great taste when it comes to music placement in their advertisements.Personally I do not hate Apple or Mac.
I prefer Windows (read XP, not Windows Vista), since I see many thing that works better for me there than on a Mac.
What I really dislike, is when Apple fans go fanatic, and adore Apple as a sort of religion.
Comments like "Pc and Microsoft is sh*t because it just sucks" is typical examples of this.
Also I hate when Windows fans in the same way attack Mac fans.
Why can't everyone be like Linux fans? I never see such rude discussion from Linux fans, as from Mac and Pc fans 
I love Apple! As a temp, I have worked in a wide variety of offices with both Apple and PC computers. I much prefer working with Macs, as they DO have a tendency to crash less, have less issues, etc. They're not perfect - no computer is - but they are very sleek and professional. The layout of OSX is much more user-friendly than Windows XP. If you look at Windows Vista, a lot of the ideas there came so obviously from OSX's layout design. This is quite obvious and good proof that the OSX layout is both highly desired and efficient!!
Not to mention Apples are just plain sexy...or maybe that's just me. With the advent of the MacBook Air, Apple is clearly on the edge of technological innovations. Now if only they weren't so bloody expensive, I would actually OWN one rather than living vicariously through my various work computers. The cheapest one here is £699, which isn't TOO bad, but still steep enough that I continue to type away on my 2-year old Toshiba laptop 
. Wait, who hates apple? I like their products; they're nice.
Even though im a windows user (and I'm plenty happy with windows), I kind of wished I had a mac?
I dislike everything about Apple, and Macs. They are the most poorly and cheaply designed computers I have ever worked with, and they cost the most. I was given a 3 year old Imac once and just about everything on it didn't work. The hard drive was having issues, the stupid like slideing CD drive didn't "suck" cd's in anymore. It wouldn't even startup anymore so I just reinstalled the OS and sold it for $75 .
A friend asked me the other day if I could replace a hard drive in their IBook, I said sure hard drives are quick and easy. Well apparently on every other laptop I took apart it was easy. I have taken apart HP's, Compaq's, and IBM's, and the Hard drives were easily replaceable and accessible. Why shouldn't they be accessible, they are the most common item to fail.
Anyway, after disassembling this stupid Ibook for 2 hours just to get at the hard drive, I had a pile of like 50 screws, of all different sizes. Finally I got the new hard drive in, and put all back together. Then I realized that the power adapter wasn't making good contact anymore, and the computer wouldn't even start up. SO I had to take it all back apart to solder the plug adapter back onto the motherboard. After spending about 7 hours on a job that would have taken me 30 seconds, and 1 screw on my IBM. I had the stupid beast running again.
My IBM has a cover and one screw and the hard drive slides right out. Freaking Apple had to bury the hard drive as deep into the laptop as they possibly could so you have to practically disassemble everything to get at it. I am pretty sure monkeys design most of Apples products.
All the Macs I have seen have cases completely made of cheap plastic, and are so cheaply made in all aspects it is disgusting how much they sell them for. Not to mention all the compatibility issues, and program issues, and AAHHHHHHHHHH why would anyone in there right mind buy a MAC!!!
Hmmm im a real apple hater and always have been, i think iv always hated there limited capability to almost everything, i especialy hate the way they have got people thinking that an ipod is not a mp3 player its something much more superia, which i dont think it is at all. infact im going to leave this conversation before i start ranting on about apple too much.
I wouldn't use hate apple but in my view apple marketing has perpetuated the myth that it is liberating, superior, and oftentimes more secure than windows pc which is not the case oftentimes. I actually like apple since osx came out and have a few apple computers including the mac mini which is my favorite. Then there are the apple fanatics which are insanely inane but you can't deny they make some really excellent products with a mint price to boot.
lol. I just read coolclay and had the exact experience. Only thing I was able to access was the airport and got completely confused how to access the harddrive that I didn't even dare try as it was so tight, I was sure to break something in attempting to locate it.
I wish I had made that decision lol! It'll take a whole lot of money before I ever work on a Apple again.
| andy26 wrote: |
| Hmmm im a real apple hater and always have been, i think iv always hated there limited capability to almost everything, i especialy hate the way they have got people thinking that an ipod is not a mp3 player its something much more superia, which i dont think it is at all. infact im going to leave this conversation before i start ranting on about apple too much. |
my ZenV (didnt buy the plus, kinda stupid and impatient since it was sold out) for only 60bucks and i can do sooo much more then any ipod can ever do.
Record Memos
Line-In Microphone
Smart Volume
The program ( Creative MediaPlayer 5 ) has literly a BILLION different options.
if you have the plus for an extra twenty$ you can play videos, and it has a video converter and all.
Creative is amazing.
iPods Suck.Hmm...hatred towards Apple. Well, like all companies, when they release a new product, I always give them the benefit of the doubt. I try my best not to "hate" a company and examine any new products they release. Unfortunately, with Apple, none of their products appeal to me. Most of their products are hype. There are various reasons as to why many of these products don't appeal to me. I'll give some examples.
iPhone: Besides a fun interface, what more does it have? It lacks so much that just a normal phone would have. I was interested in it when I saw the keynote, but since then, I never really saw why it was so great.
Macbook Air: Super thin. What else? It's like taking a Hummer and putting on scooter wheels. Mediocre performance, overpriced, lack of features, no upgrades, runs Vista better than it runs OS X. With the Lenovo X300 on the horizon, no reason to get this thing.
OS X: Seriously, I've used it, but see nothing great about it. I have Linux to do most of tasks, and any other programs I need run on Windows just fine. I didn't like OS X at all. But, I will say this is one of their better products.
Computers in general: I don't quite see what's so great about these computers. Two of their desktops use notebook parts, and their Mac Pro isn't meant for the consumer. They're just far too underpowered for my tastes.
iPod: Let's not go there. Sure, Apple was the one that brought this portable media device market to where it is today. But I can see far better products from Creative, Archos, Cowon, and even Microsoft.
Overall, I don't hate Apple. But their products are always hype at a premium price tag. Underpowered, overpriced. Sure, they've got some pretty nice things, The OS isn't bad...just not to my tastes. Some of their software apps are also pretty good.
There is one thing that I do dislike though, and that's Apple fanboys. Sorry, but some of them can just keep talking and talking and talking, without any real reasons along with made-up facts about Apple products. Some are just biased that they don't care to look at other products, and minor things that Apple may have the edge in (like running OS X natively) they use to bash others. Not everyone is like this, but I've met a couple who are.
Apple creates well designed and good looking computers, for the most part. What makes me mad, is that apple could so easily include more features in their laptops that any other laptop has, with minimal or no impact on the "look"
For instance the current macbook only has two usb ports, no expresscard port, and no card reader. My (lowend) lenovo 3000 laptop has all these things, in addition to (ironically) a firewire port and a modem. Apple could so easily make its laptops on the same level as a thinkpad, with their trademark excellent design to boot.
I think that people hate Apple because they can't afford their products so that's why they blame it. Apple is undoubtedly something special and represents high quality, modern designs and great interface. But on the other hand, their products are also synonym for high prices.
| bulek wrote: |
| I think that people hate Apple because they can't afford their products so that's why they blame it. Apple is undoubtedly something special and represents high quality, modern designs and great interface. But on the other hand, their products are also synonym for high prices. |
I really highly doubt this. Apple prices are comparable to any other laptop.The professionalism of an Apple laptop getting questioned is a bit funny if you ask me. As far as I'm concerned, unless your job specifically requires the use of a windows PC (not even emulating it on a Mac) I feel the appearance of the computer has more to do with personality than professionalism. Everybody has a Dell laptop. You can beat that company when it comes to the business model, however buying one is quite unimaginative. You know it will work just about as good as any of the others, but that lure comes from the fact everybody has one. A Mac on the other hand used to be the complete opposite, you would buy a Mac to make a statement. Now its less so but still I have a lot of respect for those that take the plunge and go to a Mac system (I'm considering doing it myself). If you make the effort to ensure compatibility and that your Mac can do everything your PC did, I admire that. We can't argue the productivity benefits of owning a Mac, things are simpler and they do have the tendency to work. So the notion that a Mac exudes an unprofessional image to me is a bit of a joke, it is a laptop. The personality indicator is has is fair more significant and it says a lot about the "efficiency" of the owner. (Or style these days ) I never hate Apple and never heard who said like that.
Well, I prefer XP/Vista when it comes to decision... However, Apple isn't "bad" in my opinion, you just got to pick your favourite =) I would never choose Linux either, so I don't think it's Apple's fault, I grew up with Windows, so I'll stick to it! =)
| Liu wrote: |
| bulek wrote: | | I think that people hate Apple because they can't afford their products so that's why they blame it. Apple is undoubtedly something special and represents high quality, modern designs and great interface. But on the other hand, their products are also synonym for high prices. |
I really highly doubt this. Apple prices are comparable to any other laptop. |
Agreed, i dont know who can say a professional laptop is cheaper then a mac, go to Lenivo Thinkpad and look at there prices.. or AlienWare... People hate Apple for the same reasons why people hate microsoft: Arrogance, peer pressure or just pure stupidity. Or, what seems to be the case sometimes, people think all apple users are fanboys and hate microsoft, so they have to say something before the fanboys can say something 'bout their mac.
As I often mention, I use macs myself but I think both apple-haters and microsoft-haters are dumb/arrogant/both.
| Sphaerenkern wrote: |
People hate Apple for the same reasons why people hate microsoft: Arrogance, peer pressure or just pure stupidity. Or, what seems to be the case sometimes, people think all apple users are fanboys and hate microsoft, so they have to say something before the fanboys can say something 'bout their mac.
As I often mention, I use macs myself but I think both apple-haters and microsoft-haters are dumb/arrogant/both. |
pc redneck?You spend more money on a tackier product with less features, options and which will ultimately cost you more money in the long run.
And I'm all but certain that all the old reasons to have a Mac (photo editing, film) have now died off.
By the way, I've seen a CLEAN installation of OS X + Leopard emulate Windows XP, and be unable to emulate a program using the MIDI device correctly. I think that's pretty pathetic.
| misterXY wrote: |
hey just wondering how many people hate Apple?
i lost support w/ there latest itune update that screwed up on three of my xp's and a vista.
also they dropped support so quickly on my phone and designed it too suck. |
I don't think many people do hate apple 
. I use an Apple eMac and haven't had any major problems with it since we got it 4+ years ago.i don't know why people hate apple but i personally think they are good at what they do, their os is optimized for multimedia, which is why i think most people who use it are into video editing etc...
i used to be friends w/ a kid attending school in Toronto, Ont. Canada.
About 6000$ into his pc... he said not even his college or w/e accepts mac cause its overprice, over hyped n too many issues..... this is a film & design school.... | apple wrote: |
| for a moment there I was convinced you were talking about me! lol |
Hahahahahahhaha!!!!!!! | misterXY wrote: |
hey just wondering how many people hate Apple?
i lost support w/ there latest itune update that screwed up on three of my xp's and a vista.
also they dropped support so quickly on my phone and designed it too suck. |
I think people hate Apple because they suck ..... You can't really say it is just apple, I have problems with Windows programs and accesories too. I think it all just boils down to what you are comfprtable with and what will do what you need it to do. In my experience, I just can't get a Mac to do what I tell it to, which frustrates me and drives me back to the pc. I can't blame it all on mac, but I want to.I don't HATE apple, but I do think it ridiculous that people buy into them being any less corporate than Microsoft. They make pretty things, but they also make things that have built in obsolescence and they are too expensive.
I don't have an Ipod, I have a Creative Zen and I will not buy an Apple product out of indignation at the way they force you to use Itunes.
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I don't HATE apple, but I do think it ridiculous that people buy into them being any less corporate than Microsoft. They make pretty things, but they also make things that have built in obsolescence and they are too expensive.
I don't have an Ipod, I have a Creative Zen and I will not buy an Apple product out of indignation at the way they force you to use Itunes. |
Aren't there other programs that now have the capability to synchronize ipods? I've heard winamp has that function now. I've gotten used to using iTunes even though there's a bunch of features i don't like.I hate Apple because they are expensive and sometimes the things wont work.
I don't hate Apple, but I'd wish their products would be much cheaper.
For example a Mac Pro costs over 2500$ just with the basic components and if you modify it to be better the price will easily go to nearly 5000 - 7000$. 
I don't hate Apple, I just think that their computers are poor value for money compared to PCs. There are problems with games as well. If you're not going to run games then a linux machine is far cheaper. If you are going to play games then a windows machine is far cheaper.
| jylan wrote: |
| I don't think many people do hate apple . I use an Apple eMac and haven't had any major problems with it since we got it 4+ years ago. |
There's an eMac in my home as well. I haven't used it much since I got my MacBook Pro almost 2 years ago, but these are both excellent computers. The eMac needed to be fixed recently, but we shipped it out, and it came back as good as new.
We also have an old iMac (one of the colorful ones), which honestly isn't great, but the fact that it's still running after many years shows that Apple did something right, even with that old thing.
To answer the question:
From what I've observed, most of the people who dislike Apple are the people who don't actually own one of their computers (or who have never even used one at all). I always hear things like, "No one makes software for Macs", "They're too expensive", "You can't right click", and "iPhones are horrible".
It's true that it could be tough to find software for a Mac, but if that's really important to someone, he or she can always purchase "Boot Camp", which will allow Windows (and obviously Windows programs) to be run on an Apple computer. I've never tried this myself, so I can't vouch for it's reliability, but I've never heard anything negative about it so far.
As far as Apple's products being too expensive, it costs a lot of money to make a good product. I wouldn't doubt that Apple is making slightly more profit per computer than Microsoft, but even if they are, I think my MacBook Pro is definitely worth the $2000 price tag. If that's what it takes to maintain a great company like Apple, than I have no problem paying more than what most consider to be a "fair price". You get what you pay for...
...unless you're talking about the iPhone. I don't have one, but I played around with one in the Apple store. It was hideously slow, and ridiculously expensive. However, it was probably expensive to manufacture as well, even if it didn't turn out as well as planned. It's important to remember that this is Apple's first cell phone. I'm sure that none of the other phone companies had a very good first effort either. At least Apple was innovative (as always) by trying to make their product different. It might take a while, but they'll improve.
As for the right click, that can be acomplished by holding the control ("ctrl") key and clicking. I don't understand why Mac mouses only have one button, but the extra step required to "right click" with one button really doesn't take that much effort.
While this has turned into an argument for why people shouldn't hate Apple, I know they're not perfect (no company is), but I've been using their products for my entire life. I won't go near a PC unless I absolutely need to, but everyone has his or her own personal preferences. I just happen to love my Macs. | Quote: |
| You get what you pay for... |
When buying a MAC you pay quite a lot for the nameWhy do people hate Apple?
I'll tell you why.
You may think it's their brightly colored products. You may think it's their insidious headphones all over the place. You may think it involves some woman throwing a sledgehammer at a screen.
But you'd be wrong.
People hate Apple for what Apple is: hippies.
Apple computers are hippy computers. That's undeniable. When was the last time you saw anybody using an Apple that wasn't also smoking weed? Never. Because Apple computers are hippy computers used by hippies. And hippies smoke weed. Facts of life my boy.
Darn hippy computers.
| ThornsOfSorrow wrote: |
It's important to remember that this is Apple's first cell phone. I'm sure that none of the other phone companies had a very good first effort either. At least Apple was innovative (as always) by trying to make their product different. It might take a while, but they'll improve.
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THEY had a first... with Motorolla.. and the same night they revealed it they also had the nano's... i DONT trust and never will trust apple ever again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_ROKR
Yes i bought this phone, wasn't cheap and it turned out that apple was HORRIBLE on it. now the iphone isn't good? what a shocker! virus is selective to more popular platforms. No one is willing to design a virus just in order infect one or several machines with the operator bearing no idea what a virus is. That is far less fun than to crack the firewall and anti-virus software and find the little tiny leak of the system and break through. haha, well, that's just my guess, i'm no hacker so no way can i tell that. But I do not like the operation in Mac, which is no way competitive to Windows, with abundant choices of software and games at hand. Though the interface is cooler, i get bored at the same style since a long time ago. But in windows, you can tweak the interface in whichever way you like, with the help of some software and theme packages. And a Windows system runs much faster than a Mac system, if installed on machines of the same hardware, due to my experience. Then, for me, Mac stands for expensive, showing off, however accessory.
| cloudship wrote: |
| But in windows, you can tweak the interface in whichever way you like, with the help of some software and theme packages. |
Try Linux, everything can be edit:D | misterXY wrote: |
Try Linux, everything can be edit:D |
Agreed. Ubuntu for the win.I don’t hate Apple… To be sincere, I don’t even know how it looks like or anything about it.
| Liu wrote: |
| misterXY wrote: |
Try Linux, everything can be edit:D |
Agreed. Ubuntu for the win. |
Ubuntu ran into problems with me, try uninstalling it.
Just do it, watch how hard it is. i needed to uninstall it cause i was moving and etc. I love Apples especially Golden Delicious! Oops, bad apple, never mind.
| standready wrote: |
| I love Apples especially Golden Delicious! Oops, bad apple, never mind. |
lol random | misterXY wrote: |
Ubuntu ran into problems with me, try uninstalling it.
Just do it, watch how hard it is. i needed to uninstall it cause i was moving and etc. |
Moving?For you Apple lovers out their I beg you, read my first post, and change your evil ways before its too late. If you've ever seen what Apples are made of inside and how crappily designed they are, and how cheaply they are made using sweatshop child labor in China and Taiwan you'd change your mind about how "great" they are.
i don't hate anything.. I just buy things that are good yet cheap... like lenovo..
I certainly don't "hate" Apple Computers, it's just that I do have some problems with companies such as apple or Microsoft who, though their contribution to computer technology is certainly undeniable, also tend to be very monopolistic.
PS: The new iProduct though is impressive! I don't hate them.
I just don't like the way they try to monopolize the market with their Iphones and ipod touch.
| misterXY wrote: |
hey just wondering how many people hate Apple?
i lost support w/ there latest itune update that screwed up on three of my xp's and a vista.
also they dropped support so quickly on my phone and designed it too suck. |
I do not hate apple. I do think it is very overpriced. and I feel linux can do anything apple can for OS, even look as pretty (or better) w compiz-Fusion these days. And all at no cost, unlike that apple software.
I must say I have more respect for Apple than M$. At least Apple can create software which works. | PatTheGreat42 wrote: |
Why do people hate Apple?
I'll tell you why.
You may think it's their brightly colored products. You may think it's their insidious headphones all over the place. You may think it involves some woman throwing a sledgehammer at a screen.
But you'd be wrong.
People hate Apple for what Apple is: hippies.
Apple computers are hippy computers. That's undeniable. When was the last time you saw anybody using an Apple that wasn't also smoking weed? Never. Because Apple computers are hippy computers used by hippies. And hippies smoke weed. Facts of life my boy.
Darn hippy computers. |
Does that count me as well? I've never smoked anything in my whole life, and have been familiar to apple machines since the age of five or something. I do admit having some hippy-ish ways of living, but still. Am I then a hippie because I use apple's products, or do I use apple's products because I am (not) a hippie? And most of all: do people hate hippies?
Anyway, apple is a good brand for it's use, as everything else. I think I made my view clear somewhere earlier in this thread..i cant hate apple because i dont have any apple´s product yet... so, why am i answering this topic? thats why i did remember a great movie talking about the begining of apple and microsoft, it calls "pirates from silicion valley"
There´s reasons to hate more or less...
Good movie anyway
I don't hate apple. However, as I build my own PC, it's much easier for me to build a PC. it's easier for me to fix a PC, and it's easier for me to get into the meat and potatoes of the system when something goes wrong.
Apples are great for children and casual users though; they are very hard to mess up and rather non-computer person friendly. ^__^
I don't hate apple, I hear its actually the best option for the fields that I'm in.. photography and music production but currently I have a custom built PC. I tried my friends laptop already and deskptops that were Apple and I was soo confused and frustrated. I'm sure though if I had one though i would learn how to use it quickly. Would probably get an Apple Laptop to do editing when i'm on the road and use my PC to edit when i'm at home.
| raine dragon wrote: |
I don't hate apple. However, as I build my own PC, it's much easier for me to build a PC. it's easier for me to fix a PC, and it's easier for me to get into the meat and potatoes of the system when something goes wrong.
Apples are great for children and casual users though; they are very hard to mess up and rather non-computer person friendly. ^__^ |
Really? I thought it was just the opposite... I thought Apple computers were the real deal... 
| apple wrote: |
| for a moment there I was convinced you were talking about me! lol |
omg that was so funny
anyways..
I dont hate apple, but i dont like how some people are so obsessed with Apple for no apparant reason.
They go around saying things like how apple products are better that all the other products blah blah blah
They have macs at my school and I have an iphone, so Im not anti-apple or anything, but when people go around saying how apple products are the best, I always asked them why they think so and no one seems to be able to answer that question.
for example, iphone is great and all, but why the heck are people so obsessed about it?
It definitely isn't the BEST phone, nor is is anything revolutionary.
Conclusion: i dont hate apple, but i dislike apple fanboys. (1) The margin they make on their products is a customer rip off, and is extremely obscene!
(2) Their iTunes for Windows is bloatware
(3) Their fanboys are extremely annoying
Do you need any more reasons??
I do not really know why some people hate Apple, on the contrary, I can imagine why people can hate Microsoft. But it's just a subjective opinion of mine. ) I love Apple! | Liu wrote: |
| misterXY wrote: |
Ubuntu ran into problems with me, try uninstalling it.
Just do it, watch how hard it is. i needed to uninstall it cause i was moving and etc. |
Moving? |
moved from one side of Canada to another so i had to drop off the harddrive since i was more intrested in XPSP2 to configure it then linux cause i was also impatient it would've took forever to transfer everything to my linux let alone things that wouldn't work with linux as it did with XP.. i left by plabe for work & school, didn't entirely move.Apple are innovators not followers (like windows). That said it wasn't apple that invented the 'windows' interface it was actually a company that makes photocopy machines (go figure). Like another poster said - apple is too proprietary I had a mac years and years ago and loathed the closed shop aspect of it - and switched to pc.
EVen now with the IPOD, wonderful product - however as everyone knows with the early version the batteries sucked big time - you can't replace them easily with 3rd party batteries - invalidate the warranty etc etc
compare and contrast to a PC (even a genuine artticle IBM pc of years gone by) if you didn't like somehting (like the video card) no problem - any tom, dick or harry could and did make a replacement video card, it slots in , no warranty problem - and therefore you had competition.
I like Apple's
They are one of the finest fruits which tastes good. I like both fresh green apples and red apples. And all the more, the best i like is the TROPICANA APPLE PREMIUS APPLE JUICE. It tastes good !!!
Keep Smiling - Keep Living
Happy eating Apples
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Visit me @ : http://www.sathish.frih.net I don't hate apple, every product that comes in the market only leads to more competition and betterment of quality, so its mainly good for us.
And on the fun side:an apple a day keeps the "billy" away!! Well, I dislike the way osx looks, way too much useless graphics and not enough functionality (Kinda like vista). I really really hate those cheap-ass iBook chargers on which the cables constantly get worn out until it starts to smoke from em and you burn your fingers putting it in. No like seriously, I'm working at a whole bunch of elementary schools as tech support and just about each other of those chargers are broken, and it's just a matter of time for the rest. I also dislike how today I had to find an usb keyboard just to be able to run a software update for a MacBook for which the keyboard and touchpad suddenly stopped working. Yeah.. It just works my a**. I dislike how I had to check up on the internet how to find the power button on one of those flat screen macs. I really dislike that people think those mac mice looks fine. Ergonomical mice looks fine, those round things looks like some awkward naughty toys. I dislike how apple introduces every new feature that other os's have used since the dawn of time as "unique". I dislike the ugly cheaply made half transparent keys on those iBooks, I dislike how easy the iBooks are scratched. I hate how sometimes when you're trying to start up an iBook or MacBook nothing happens, so you plug in the charger and still nothing happens, so you remove the battery and click that little button and plug it back in and wait 10 minutes, still nothing.
Okey okey, if someone have corrections to my complaints, please just say em.
Amen to that brother I feel your pain, read my post on the first page.
i don't like apple primarily because their products are so overpriced. the only thing i used by them was itunes when i had windows on my laptop because my WMP became so cluttered and i was far too lazy to organize it. but now i have switched over to Ubuntu and couldn't be happier. If i really wanted OS X i could just follow one of the numerous guides out there to customize linux to look as such. however, i dont like apple products, cant stand the ipod (i own a creative zen) and have no desire to purchase an apple computer. sure their designs are pleasing to the eye, but it isn't worth all of the extra cash i would need to shell out when i can get the same performance for less.
that said, im going the free route and planning on staying that way unless i come across something that i really need and can't get WINE or an alternative software to do under linux.
| HamsterMan wrote: |
Well, I dislike the way osx looks, way too much useless graphics and not enough functionality (Kinda like vista). I really really hate those cheap-ass iBook chargers on which the cables constantly get worn out until it starts to smoke from em and you burn your fingers putting it in. No like seriously, I'm working at a whole bunch of elementary schools as tech support and just about each other of those chargers are broken, and it's just a matter of time for the rest. I also dislike how today I had to find an usb keyboard just to be able to run a software update for a MacBook for which the keyboard and touchpad suddenly stopped working. Yeah.. It just works my a**. I dislike how I had to check up on the internet how to find the power button on one of those flat screen macs. I really dislike that people think those mac mice looks fine. Ergonomical mice looks fine, those round things looks like some awkward naughty toys. I dislike how apple introduces every new feature that other os's have used since the dawn of time as "unique". I dislike the ugly cheaply made half transparent keys on those iBooks, I dislike how easy the iBooks are scratched. I hate how sometimes when you're trying to start up an iBook or MacBook nothing happens, so you plug in the charger and still nothing happens, so you remove the battery and click that little button and plug it back in and wait 10 minutes, still nothing.
Okey okey, if someone have corrections to my complaints, please just say em. |
Amen Also.
| lastelement0 wrote: |
i don't like apple primarily because their products are so overpriced. the only thing i used by them was itunes when i had windows on my laptop because my WMP became so cluttered and i was far too lazy to organize it. but now i have switched over to Ubuntu and couldn't be happier. If i really wanted OS X i could just follow one of the numerous guides out there to customize linux to look as such. however, i dont like apple products, cant stand the ipod (i own a creative zen) and have no desire to purchase an apple computer. sure their designs are pleasing to the eye, but it isn't worth all of the extra cash i would need to shell out when i can get the same performance for less.
that said, im going the free route and planning on staying that way unless i come across something that i really need and can't get WINE or an alternative software to do under linux. |
What's great about the creative Zen that i experince is MUCH more tools that are very handy 
Plus a fraction cheaper, can use linux and still enjoy it's design.
It isn't as thin, but i don't want thin. i want a big toy i suppose. I do not hate apple at all. I do not know why there are people who hate apple. I have not used that much products from apple but I have found no reason to hate apple at all. iPods are pretty good aren't they? and maybe I love apple because they produce cool looking iPods.
well most people like apples because there helthy well appairently well if u think apples are healthy that ur thoght my self i hate apples i dont like them my self that might be because i choked on one so the my side of apples and thats why i hate them
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I think I've already complained about hippies.
But no matter, I'll do it again.
It's important.
People hate hippies. They're nasty and they smell and they like things like freedom of speech and expression and protection against warrentless wiretapping from the government. Therefore, hippies love evil.
Now, Apple is made of hippies.
Everybody at Apple is a hippy.
And hippies are evil. Therefore, the conclusion is simple:
Apple is evil. Because hippies are evil. Dagnabbit.
My main complaint about Apple (trust me, I have complaints about Windows) is that they seem to emphasize aesthetics over functionality. They have overpriced--albeit shiny--computers that you can't upgrade and that are very overpriced compared to their PC alternatives. They have a laptop that is thin beyond any real use, sacrificing capabilities and affordability.
My real hatred comes from the minimizing, though. They don't let you minimize and reopen windows with any efficiency. Rather than have an ugly bar that had the name of the application, they have pretty icons that show what the window is displaying. Hey, guess what? When I have several instances of Open Office open, they all look the same. Yes, I know, it was that one page with the text.
I mean, it works fine if you're only going to do one thing at a time, but that's not me. Well, it is NOW, because I'm stuck on a PC with 128MB of RAM. But that's not my choice.
apple is not for me. and i think vista is almost alike mac os x. most of it's features. and of cause windows has integrate more than mac do. and mac is expensive for me. i still remember 1 of my friend told me mac is very easy to use. especially mac has very clear step on telling the users how to do anythings with mac. but i tried before but it just hard for me.
i bet i'll never know how to use mac. cause i'm already adapt to windows too much. for me, windows is 100 times easier.
