Rumors have been talking about a new Windows o/s release next year after its predcessor vista, hence windows 2009
WLM 9.0 Beta [windows 2009]
etc.
Anyone have any feed on this? Opinions ?...
| misterXY wrote: |
Rumors have been talking about a new Windows o/s release next year after its predcessor vista, hence windows 2009
WLM 9.0 Beta [windows 2009]
etc.
Anyone have any feed on this? Opinions ?... |
It's not happening. There are service packs in beta for XP and for Vista but Windows 7 will slip... I mean ship in 2012.
http://advice.cio.com/diann_daniel/microsoft_nixes_rumors_of_2009_windows_7_release | jeremyp wrote: |
| mean ship in 2012. |
Actually it is going to be next year sometime: http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1136 | jeremyp wrote: |
| misterXY wrote: | Rumors have been talking about a new Windows o/s release next year after its predcessor vista, hence windows 2009
WLM 9.0 Beta [windows 2009]
etc.
Anyone have any feed on this? Opinions ?... |
It's not happening. There are service packs in beta for XP and for Vista but Windows 7 will slip... I mean ship in 2012.
http://advice.cio.com/diann_daniel/microsoft_nixes_rumors_of_2009_windows_7_release |
And they're not rumors - its the real deal.
Windows 7(formally Vienna)
:O Oh my god! That looks so much like Vista! What exactly are they trying to do with Windows 7? From what I have heard they are redoing the whole entire code?
If so, I could see why everybody thinks that it "may" ship in 2011. It took like 6 years for them to finish Vista which requires the latest computer technology.
I don't have a fast enough computer for me to even think about installing Vista. Instead, I can just take the Visual Styles and theme my PC to the limits it can handle. But, if I did have a fast enough computer I would upgrade to Vista, only because of the looks as well as more security. Also, don't spam saying that I should switch to Linux, because quite frankly I don't care what operating system I use.
I hope they fix everything that is wrong with Vista and bring the Luna skin back (The XP Skin). That would be awesome.
Anyway, the reason it looks like Vista is because its early in development and there probably developing the backbone of the OS right now.
Check out old Longhorn screenshots (codename for Vista) and you'll see it is like XP but then changed.
Lets just hope MS fixes all the issues and doesn't bring Direct X 11 where we need to buy new video cards again. *Ugh*
| Diablosblizz wrote: |
:O Oh my god! That looks so much like Vista! What exactly are they trying to do with Windows 7? From what I have heard they are redoing the whole entire code?
If so, I could see why everybody thinks that it "may" ship in 2011. It took like 6 years for them to finish Vista which requires the latest computer technology |
There will be a new look, it just hasn't been released yet (Vista looked the same as XP when the first releases came out)
It will ship in 2009. I think the complete rewrite has been pushed back again. | garionw wrote: |
| Diablosblizz wrote: | :O Oh my god! That looks so much like Vista! What exactly are they trying to do with Windows 7? From what I have heard they are redoing the whole entire code?
If so, I could see why everybody thinks that it "may" ship in 2011. It took like 6 years for them to finish Vista which requires the latest computer technology |
There will be a new look, it just hasn't been released yet (Vista looked the same as XP when the first releases came out)
It will ship in 2009. I think the complete rewrite has been pushed back again. |
I suppose they need something to look at when their testing their new piece of cra... I mean software.i thought they said windows 2009 server!!!
| fadirocks wrote: |
| i thought they said windows 2009 server!!! |
Why would Microsoft release Windows Server 2009 when they just released 2008? | Diablosblizz wrote: |
| fadirocks wrote: | | i thought they said windows 2009 server!!! |
Why would Microsoft release Windows Server 2009 when they just released 2008? |
I don't think 2008 Server is even out yet. 
| Diablosblizz wrote: |
| fadirocks wrote: | | i thought they said windows 2009 server!!! |
Why would Microsoft release Windows Server 2009 when they just released 2008? |
Because Microsoft are evil and greedy? Seriously we've got to think logically here. 
| LostOverThere wrote: |
| Diablosblizz wrote: | | fadirocks wrote: | | i thought they said windows 2009 server!!! |
Why would Microsoft release Windows Server 2009 when they just released 2008? |
Because Microsoft are evil and greedy? Seriously we've got to think logically here. |
Its windows server 2008, and how often are ubuntu releases released? 6 months? maybe microsoft plan to give a cheaper upgrade packmaybe it's all just a hype!!!
I think if this is server edition then Microsoft will launch there SERVER 2008 ,with new name SERVER 2009 as it is not in the market yet.I think they are delaying the launch as vista in my opinion is not a successful launch.
I f this is a window version then they should have to try really hard to make it perfect ,bug free and i think they should also decrease the system requirements .Waiting for hear more about this
Yeah right. I'll believe that when I see it. Windows Vista was three years late and they only got it out at all by cutting a lot of the promised features. | IllusionSoftware wrote: |
| Diablosblizz wrote: | | fadirocks wrote: | | i thought they said windows 2009 server!!! |
Why would Microsoft release Windows Server 2009 when they just released 2008? |
I don't think 2008 Server is even out yet. |
it actually is, a school i was going to go before i backed out, NAIT.ca have FREE rights to download it. 
| misterXY wrote: |
| IllusionSoftware wrote: | | Diablosblizz wrote: | | fadirocks wrote: | | i thought they said windows 2009 server!!! |
Why would Microsoft release Windows Server 2009 when they just released 2008? |
I don't think 2008 Server is even out yet. |
it actually is, a school i was going to go before i backed out, NAIT.ca have FREE rights to download it. |
it's not out yet - maybe they had the beta or rc | garionw wrote: |
| misterXY wrote: | | IllusionSoftware wrote: | | Diablosblizz wrote: | | fadirocks wrote: | | i thought they said windows 2009 server!!! |
Why would Microsoft release Windows Server 2009 when they just released 2008? |
I don't think 2008 Server is even out yet. |
it actually is, a school i was going to go before i backed out, NAIT.ca have FREE rights to download it. |
it's not out yet - maybe they had the beta or rc |
& also have licenses for it?sorry, it was released to manufacturing on February 4, 2008: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Server_2008 it looks exactly like vista.. no gui changes at all.. you'd think they would make them a lil less demanding on the system or something.
thought so 
| Srs2388 wrote: |
| it looks exactly like vista.. no gui changes at all.. you'd think they would make them a lil less demanding on the system or something. |
you never know anything w/ m$, look at longhorn & vista... yes longhorn was nicked for vista, but they dont look anything really alike in the early stages of longhorn. oh i didn't think about that.. i hope they redo the GUI i like vista's but it takes a lot of resources to run... i have 2gb of ram on my laptop and it takes half of it just running without any applications.
i say the next realease will be like 2012- or 15, usually isn't it at least 5 years after? wonder what features will be next....
| Srs2388 wrote: |
| oh i didn't think about that.. i hope they redo the GUI i like vista's but it takes a lot of resources to run... i have 2gb of ram on my laptop and it takes half of it just running without any applications. |
i kno how u feel bro but how can they cut back on the resources? 
| evilryu530 wrote: |
| i say the next realease will be like 2012- or 15, usually isn't it at least 5 years after? wonder what features will be next.... |
not really
correct me, i wont go by SP's
95 3yrs later 98 two yrs later ME & 2000Net & the following yr XP???I don't think that Windows 7 will be released so soon. As seen from the screenshots, they just started to develop it and there are almost no new features.
I heard about windows 7(vienna).i think its just in its early developement stage 7 takr long time to come.!
well well, i heard of windows 7 but i tried to download it twice but failed. so somehow it hard for me to believe that it true. probably that is the tweak done by someone and post it for people's attention. well, until i tried it, then only i believe that is true "leak" before out for sale. or maybe that is some of the update leak from microsoft.
I used windows2008..What is win2009?
win 2009 is vienna and 2008 is the server
i doubted that there is one that replace vista so soon. it must be server or other version sthat is not meant for desktop replacement. the next one to replace vista is called windows 7.
upgrading to sticky 
too many other windows 2009/7 topics I would like to try it out..
I saw that screenshot it still has the same GUI though I would like to see a different GUI.
| Srs2388 wrote: |
I would like to try it out..
I saw that screenshot it still has the same GUI though I would like to see a different GUI. |
The different GUI isn't expected until M2 is released (or later)
| csoftdev wrote: |
| i doubted that there is one that replace vista so soon. it must be server or other version sthat is not meant for desktop replacement. the next one to replace vista is called windows 7. |
It could possibly be a cheaper one, although there are some new interesting features going into it, but a Mac OS is released around every 18 months and before XP there was a new OS every 2-3 yearsMicrosoft's normal O.S. lifecycle is about 2 years (at least for client O.S.). It has always been so (btw XP was released in 2002) except with Vista, due to (huge) setbacks.
As far as I know, (and that isn't much 
) the team working on Vista got delayed but the team working on the next version (after Vista) got started on 2004/5 as well. meaning Microsoft was working on 2 O.S's at the same time (not counting servers). I wouldn't be surprised if they got some of the work form both teams into Vista ( i think they borrowed some of the 2008 server for Vista too) but being separate projects, there should be some major differences (considering they still have one year to go before launch).
But having a new Windows (client) O.S. launching in 2009 is within the normal time frame. It may get pushed back a year or so for severall reasons (main 2: production set backs and to allow Vista to become profitable, since it didn't quite get a good start and isn't selling as much as MS expected)
Be Well Looking at the time it took from windows XP to Vista, it will take another 3 years for the windows 7 to come..
and when it does, who knows.. it might just end up like windows Vista..
hehe..
but if u look at the timeline, it took less than 2 years for win95 to win97
1 year for win98
1 year for ME
1 year for 2000
and around 5 years for a Vista..
but according to me, XP is the best.. just like 98 was..
and Windows 7, or Vienna will be more of a web application than a OS..
it might be a Big Big Hit in countries where T1 or T3 connections are available, but in countries like India [where i live] the dream to run a windows Live over 256kbps seems dream only.. 
but still 'm Happy with XP.. | Srs2388 wrote: |
I would like to try it out..
I saw that screen shots it still has the same GUI though I would like to see a different GUI. |
I believe the screen shots are not true in most of the cases.
I remember seeing screen shots of Longhorn ages before it was launched which soon turned out to be fake when the Beta was launched..
btw any link to screenshots?yeah it looks pretty much like windows vista (looks exactly like vista for me). I went on youtube to see if someone is able to upload and I was.. I'm bit disappointed.. but of course, windows seven still have a long way to go before it will be released.
| garionw wrote: |
| Srs2388 wrote: | I would like to try it out..
I saw that screenshot it still has the same GUI though I would like to see a different GUI. |
The different GUI isn't expected until M2 is released (or later) |
Are people not reading what I say Weren't they gonna redo the kernel and break binary compatibility with the previous Windows versions?
Vista is just starting up, why would MS create new OS so soon? isn't it better if MS make Vista more stable or something?
| cvkien wrote: |
| Vista is just starting up, why would MS create new OS so soon? isn't it better if MS make Vista more stable or something? |
I was about to ask the same thing. I think this is a bunch of rumours, only. It is ilogical to M$ to start presenting the future OS by this time. | cvkien wrote: |
| Vista is just starting up, why would MS create new OS so soon? isn't it better if MS make Vista more stable or something? |
Will you people please start reading the whole conversation.
There was around a year between Me and XP
There was 2 years between '98 and Me
There were 3 years '95 and '98
Its been 2 years since Vista
Mac updates are released every 18 months
Ubuntu Updates twice annually
Why shouldn't Microsoft release another Operating Systemshoot. First lets patch up vista then work on a new os. This isn't apple after all. they (Microsoft) can not put out a somewhat quality product in a 2 year cycle.
There 's too much hype on this.
I can't undestand any reason microsoft is working on a new os, the time that vista are getting the first patches(sp1).
It is like when win xp got their sp2..
All this marketing with Vista, all this "essential" transaction for playing the also hyped dx10 games and now they are "burying" this product?
I dont think microsoft will work this way. Time will tell...
Look as far as we know it is not coming out okay?
If microsoft say so then thats that.
I think a alot of the pictures are done in photoshop.
| teencompforum wrote: |
Look as far as we know it is not coming out okay?
If microsoft say so then thats that.
I think a alot of the pictures are done in photoshop. |
Maybe I left frihost for a reason. Stop being so pigheaded and read my messages.
Windows 7 is coming out. It's release is due for 2009/2010
Microsoft have said so, and in a number of places.
- http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1314
- http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080123/insider-confirm-windows-7/
- http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/01/windows_7_to_be_released_ahead_of_schedule-2.html
The screenshots are real, but why would microsoft release the GUI so early into development. Don't you think they'll get the Kernal and OS working before they worry about any fancy features?Well, I just heard that the new code name for windows coming in 2009 was Quebec.
Windows Embedded Quebec.
Also, heard that microsoft always take the name of cities around the world for their codenames.
The funny thing is that I live in Quebec city !!
I think they took our city because we are celebrating 400 years since the creation of the city.
Yup, we are the first place to be found by Jacques Cartier. Then founded in 1608 by Samuel De Champlain. long story short. microsoft is trying to copy apple's OS release cycle since it has proven so successful. Once again; apple the inovater and microsoft the follower.
Agreed ... I'm 100% with you!
Actually, Windows 7 will be released in 2010. The theme is a little different, with an animated logon screen and the windows fully transparent(Windows Vista's theme loses transparency when it's maximized). The search bar is movable.
New windows immediately we don't expect yet. Vista itself has not be everywhere yet.
| misterXY wrote: |
Rumors have been talking about a new Windows o/s release next year after its predcessor vista, hence windows 2009
WLM 9.0 Beta [windows 2009]
etc.
Anyone have any feed on this? Opinions ?... |
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wat ur kidding me windows needs to get there act together and make 1 good operating system | garionw wrote: |
| cvkien wrote: | | Vista is just starting up, why would MS create new OS so soon? isn't it better if MS make Vista more stable or something? |
Will you people please start reading the whole conversation.
There was around a year between Me and XP
There was 2 years between '98 and Me
There were 3 years '95 and '98
Its been 2 years since Vista
Mac updates are released every 18 months
Ubuntu Updates twice annually
Why shouldn't Microsoft release another Operating System |
There was only 2 years between 95 and 98. Microsoft obviously couldn't be bothered to change the name when they missed their deadline. 
But yes, you're right. Vista hasn't been very well received. For Microsoft to expect it to have the same longevity as XP would be a bad move.
From what I've heard, Win7 can be expected some time during 2010. Not next year. Right now I've got no idea what's meant to distinguish it from Vista. It looks about as much of an update as ME was to 98. Just hopefully not so incomplete upon release.
Still, I'll probably have to buy it given that I opted out of getting Vista.Just a sad attempt to repair the huge amound of damage done by vista.
Marketing strategies and production planning must be the two driving forces
for all these products from Microsoft.
The marketing plan is to general a consistent stream of products that can keep the customer paying (not neccessary happy though).
The production plan must be synchronized with the marketing strategy to generate the products and of course get the profits in.
With these two strategic issues - there is little room to consider whether you need to upgrade from single processor to dual (Oh maybe need quad processors in Windows 7), or whether you need a more Advanced Video Processor (Oh, maybe dual Video processors in Windows 7).
So if you are supportive of these strategic moves by Microsoft - keep you purse, checkbook and credit card ready - many more are on the strategic horizon.
Oh, I am just looking from the marketing and production perspectives.
With regards.
Nice thought and exciting.
im somewhat surprised at the fact that microsoft is basically cutting ties with vista so soon. however the January 2010 release date that they have set seems a little to soon for microsoft to be able to release a decent OS. look at what happened with Vista. there were several setbacks that delayed the release of Vista. and from reactions to date, they still haven't addressed all of the major issues with it. this the reason fo windows 7 being released relatively soon after?
only time will tell how well this OS is compared to Vista.
The sayings that microsoft is rewriting the code is already been stopped. Because it would screw up the compatibility with other windows, Microsoft would have got 2 problems:
1. Noone will buy Vista because for Windows 7 it wouldnt be compatible
2. They would loose much customers. people arent going to linux because of compatibility. if win7 also got no compatibility, people are going to look to alternatives
| dmystic wrote: |
The sayings that microsoft is rewriting the code is already been stopped. Because it would screw up the compatibility with other windows, Microsoft would have got 2 problems:
1. Noone will buy Vista because for Windows 7 it wouldnt be compatible
2. They would loose much customers. people arent going to linux because of compatibility. if win7 also got no compatibility, people are going to look to alternatives |
That's true. If linux was compatible and friendly, obviously everybody would jump to it. Buying a complete new set and again learning everything is not a small issue.windows vista is just an operating system that makes your computer slower, i have a pc with 2 gb of ram 160gb in harddisk and a turion64x2 processator, my computer works like a commmodore 64 with tha windows, now, imagine the windows 7, its just appearance
