I actually not hate mac but the users, hmm what can i say, they become fanatic after using it, they treated other os (windows or even linux) as trash.
After they buy a mac product they just can't stop buying another mac device (iPod, iPhone etc. ), even if mac product is expensive (w/ poor feature compared to another product w/ same price range).
I have to say most Mac users I know (myself included) don't bash Linux. In fact, our OS is sort of based off it. We merely grumble at the horrible morass that is Windows.
Most people don't attack Mac users, they attack the Mac itself, which many Mac users take as a personal attack for some reason.
For example, I can say:
Only two real gripes about Mac: the fact that to do any customization beyond changing the wallpaper, you need to use 3rd-Party hacks, which are invariably payware and that you're stuck with a menubar at the top of the screen, rather that in the window that's its associated with. The screen-top menubar worked great in the singletasking era of the original Mac, but its just plain confusing in a moder context.
And that will get Mac fans all upset, as if they had been personally insulted. After a few interactions like that, some people start to get a bad opinion of all Mac users, rather than just that blatant pro-Mac troll on "teh Intarwebz"
I've always wanted to try out a Mac. Unfortunately, I lack $1500 to just "try out" a new computer.
So, of course, I've tried to talk about the comparisons to the few Mac people I've met. All I can get out of them is "I can do anything a PC can do!!" followed by an anti-Microsoft rant. Now I'm no pro-Microsoft by any stretch of the imagination (see my threads asking about Linux), but obviously, Microsoft and the PC in general must be doing something right.
The handful of Mac peeps I know seem to want to ignore this point. As a matter of fact, they all seem to have these snotty attitudes and think they've discovered some little secret that makes them better than the average computer user.
Now I know, not every Mac user is like this, but I'm telling you, the few I have met certainly fit this description.
One guy I used to work with comes to mind when I think of Mac users. He already was a know-it-all to begin with. He was just so condescending when it came to discussions about computers. His last words were always "Well you use a PC, I USE A MAC!!"
Come to think about it, my brother-in-law's family have always used Macs in there family business. His mother gave my nephew a Mac for Christmas. My brother-in-law was laughing about how my nephew was going to cop an attitude now.
Well I know a few people running on Macs, and only one person out of them all is a PC basher.
I bought an IPod Classic and I'm not addicted to other Apple products?
I once came across a good metaphor to explain Windows, Macs, and Linux
Windows are sedans, cheap, but easy to fix.
Macs are European cars, sealed, eloquent, and really a mystery on how they work.
Linux OSs are tanks that can go 100mph, get 100 miles/gal, and are free.
Some of us (Mac users) are reasonable people...
Some of us even use and like other operating systems. Personally, I still can't like Vista, however 
I have been involved in computers since the late 70's. My father and I built our first PC from a Heathkit computer kit. It was an 8088 processor that cooked along at 8Mhz, and to prove it was really high end, it even had a tape cassette drive so you didn't have to type in the programs every time you used them!
I have since been involved with both Mac and PC computing, and now I'm starting into Linux again (again because I left it behind for being too difficult to install and use and having little that I wanted to do with it). I came to the conclusion many years ago that I didn't care what OS I used until I knew what task I was going to be performing. Now, the choice is even simpler as each OS is strong in just about all categories from Graphic Arts to Music and general business applications. If you have a role to perform at an office, the platform will already be determined most of the time by the business infrastructure that is in place. If you have an office that is using an installed base of PC's, it is unlikely that they will buy you a Mac for 3-4 times the cost of a PC box with a M$ OS pre-installed. On the other hand, if you have a Mac based office, they will never "stoop" to buying you a PC now matter how much you rail about it. So in the office, you get what you get. There are the middle ground offices of course where the web development or marketing department made a convincing enough argument about how they really need Macs to do all that Graphic and Print work... 
But usually there are savvy enough managers not to get fooled into the higher priced hardware.
Todays Macs are a wonder. They look great, are very fast, and, except for a few staffu's related to playing the 'race to market' game with M$ on the Leopard release, very stable. Someone in a post above said something about how when someone buys a Mac they get really snotty about it, and never want to use a PC again... Doesn't that speak to what the Mac OS is like? Once you use a Mac, you never go back? Just thought it was funny that point was made as an anti-Mac comment... 
As to M$ Windows, I have used the various iterations of M$ operating systems more than Mac, I use them for supporting my clients, and for doing a lot of the usual; usual being defined as Office apps and web. I also enjoy, though I don't play much lately, games on Wintel Box (yes windows gaming is very good especially compared to the consoles. The key part of personal computing is the multi functionality of the unit you are using, and to make a high powered computer dedicated to games seems wasteful to me). I can't defend the WinBox much. Again, from something someone said above, Microsoft must be doing something right. I agree, they did: marketing, and OEM licensing in such a way as to get a huge market share, and indeed, they are a huge contributing factor for PC's being as ubiquitous as they are in the world today. They also write all their software as a giant committee, and that takes away the flair of Windows to a large extent. It has become an over rated under performing klodge, and Vista is the penultimate example of bloatware. Other than that, M$ has a fine OS, if you can afford to get a new PC or buy the upgrades that you need to use it. My big problem with that is the wastefulness. Windows is the NeoCon of the OS's.
Linux: Created by committee, it's true, but always with vision. The multi-capable PC is unleashed with various Linux OSs, and they can all communicate well with each other regardless of the hardware and OS differences. It's not as easy to use as Windows, but, hell, Windows isn't as easy as Mac, so what? Folks still figured it out. OK, some more than others... 
Linux can run on almost any hardware out there, and it can be customized to within the specifications you have for it. Try that with Windows, or Mac for that matter. It can be anything from a shiny eye candy box to a workhorse server that rarely crashes. The Linux community is helpful and available, and eager to find solutions to the issues you have. As far as ease of use, you can customize a Linux box into practically a kiosk of useful utilities for your grandmother if you so choose. The capability to make a custom install is as easy as fixing up the box the way you like it and creating a Live CD to send to Granny to put in her CD drive and start using it when it boots up. Do that with a Windows CD!
Microsoft's position in computing is still huge today, but does that mean they should be the unquestioned ruler of your desktop? I think otherwise. There are a lot of options in the Linux OS world, and people simply have to try it out to believe it. You don't even have to give up your precious Windows to do it either! Just use it from your optical drive.
Linux is coming up round on the outside, and they are making the move into the inside track... Keep watching. The new killer OS is on the frontier, and it's going to be a big movement. Linux almost has the eye of the hardware manufacturers now, and should get some support on that front soon.
Anyone out there work in machine language, and understand drivers? You could have a huge company if you were to start writing drivers and installers for Linux. TenDollarDrivers.com anyone? 
Have fun! Try Linux...
~Brian
BE Enterprises (.com) Funny thing is that other people seem to have the argue why they use windows when they see I have a mac.
For example, they say things like "oh look at the chassis, would never buy it" or "macs are so expensive, I like PCs much better!" when they see my MacBook.
And I always think, wtf, shut up! I don't care why they don't like Mac. When I see a PC, I don't say things like "OMG how ugly is this tower get a mac!!" and stuff.
The problem is, there _are_ mac fanatics which are always bashing other OS users so people think I am too and try to bash first.
I have a deep respect for Linux users and PC users are normal people just using a different OS. I don't like windows, that's why I don't use it. Apple is no religion or something, and I'm no preacher.
You always have these kind of peoples, it is a stereotype that ALL mac-users are like that.
From my own experience I can say that as a daily mac-user i just get frustrated if i have to work with windows. (and before i used mac i have used windows for years) I'm a Mac user, and truthfully I can't stand half the Mac software, so I use Windows XP heavily through Parallels VM. There are some great applications for it (like ProTools, the Native Instruments Suite, and I LOVE Adium for chat). I disagree that the menubar at the top instead of with the window supports single tasking, I think it just takes some getting used to switching from Windows to Mac and vise-versa.
I will admit that I think the Macs tend to be a bit more aesthetically pleasing than some PCs. I don't think the laptops are any less customizable than any other laptop, and now with the new Intel chips I think the MacPro (for those who can afford it - not me!) could be more customizable than past Macs.
I don't bash Windows - I use it all the time, and I'm trying to get into Linux too. I'm not addicted.... while I may have an iPod, that's because it was a free offer with the laptop I don't take things as a personal attack when people bash macs, but I do at time get irritated.
Usually (in my experiences), people say bad things about macs when they honestly have no idea what they are talking about. Usually they have either:
A. Never used a Mac
B. Used one for 3 Seconds
C. Base there experiences on Pre-OSX
SO when people come up to me when I'm on my MacBook and say "Mac sucks. They can't do anything. Blah Blah Blah" (has happened before), I get slightly pissed because:
1. I don't care what this person thinks, I don't even know them
2. They don't know what they're talking about
3. No on asked them about what they think, nor did I tell them "LOVE MY MAC!!!"
Like... I know not all people are that ignorant, but when those ignorant people feel the need to make a comment for NO REASON, I, and others, do get quite agitated. I'm sure it happens to all of us about something once in a while. I mean... I could irritate a windows love if I went up and said:
"Windows sucks! I've used Windows 95 So I know what your using now is bad too. You can't do anything and it crashes alot, and there is no software, blah blah blah." <--- Good Example!!!
See that. I can be dumb too. When people say things about Mac when the only OS they used is OS 7 or OS 9, it's like me saying XP sucks cause Win95 was bad. That's when I get irritated, as I'm sure a windows lover would too if I said that statement.
I love Mac. I have only been using OS X for about 2 years now. I started on OSX86, and then bought my MacBook. It wasn't overpriced, and it performs wonderfully. Before I used Mac, I used Windows XP as my main OS.
I've also used:
- Ubuntu
- FreeBSD
- DOS
- Windows 95-XP
- Windows Vista (Beta Longhorn - Ultimate RTM)
- SkyOS
- DSL Linux
- Mac OS 9
I personally prefer OS X. But only 10.4+. I honestly hate anything pre-Tiger. Just not worth it to me. I also (personally) never use my desktop PC anymore and use Windows once in a great while. Why? Because for what I do, Windows sucks. This doesn't mean it sucks for everyone, just for me.
I have my Mac customized for my multiple workspaces, I don't have to run an anti-virus/anti-spyware program in the background at all times, the Graphic Design tools (Photoshop, Illustrator) run better on my mac than on Windows (again, my experience). I also personally prefer how the windows are not confined in Mac. Like... instead of one window with stuff i it, its just layers over the Desktop. I like that. It is better for me when I'm working.
Anyway...
Not all mac users are fanatics. We just sometimes get a little irritated. Myself included. But when people are just voicing opinions from experience (not just random nonsense), then I don't have a problem. If you like windows, go for it. But don't sit there and try to tell me my Mac sucks. Cause personally, I don't care what you think.
That is all.
(^.^)
| xbow wrote: |
I actually not hate mac but the users, hmm what can i say, they become fanatic after using it, they treated other os (windows or even linux) as trash.
After they buy a mac product they just can't stop buying another mac device (iPod, iPhone etc. ), even if mac product is expensive (w/ poor feature compared to another product w/ same price range). |
People hate them because they're cultish, fanboyish, and typically smug or annoying. At least, that's the common stereotype of them. The OS Advocates of Macs really do fit this bill, but every OS advocate fits the bill of cultish and smug. They seem to like to pop up a lot more than Unix/Unix-like people, and people satisfied with what they have don't want to be pestered constantly about what works for them. Some of it is ignorance on part of the Windows users, but mostly its the Mac user annoying the Windows user.
Think about it like the Mac vs. PC commercials: The mac guy is a hipster and utter jerk, while PC is the goof. Of course, PCs got gamers, and they get just as bad.
Linux (Unix-like) people tend to be much worse than any mac fanboy in their snobbery, but they stay in their own communities much more than the Mac fanboys. Windows fanboys aren't as bad because they don't need to be.i have both on one dell machine 
what would that make me?
lol 
| xbow wrote: |
I actually not hate mac but the users, hmm what can i say, they become fanatic after using it, they treated other os (windows or even linux) as trash.
After they buy a mac product they just can't stop buying another mac device (iPod, iPhone etc. ), even if mac product is expensive (w/ poor feature compared to another product w/ same price range). |
What I do know, although I'm no Mac user, is that, when you "wake up to a new reality" then you defend it very strongly. Like those ones that have recently converted themselves from one religion to another: they will defend the new one with tooth and nail and attack the previous. Besides, I have a feeling that Macs are actually great, for many reasons. That maybe why the Mac fanboys are generally so fervent.I switched to Mac one year ago but nevertheless I also own a Xbox360 and a PS3 with Linux running on it - OSX is very stable and secure but windows for shure is as good as OSX - I think its a matter of taste and needs.
well im not sure if i hate apple or just macs....
I know i'm fed up with the constant attempts to bash windows on their commercials.. i mean i dont really like windows but i dont hate it either, its just.. one commercial was alright.. then they come out with like.. 20 different ones all attacking windows and how bad it is... which is really annoying after a while which makes me hate mac even more. Then i dont like the way the mac os is layed out, or its gui... or the cases and keyboards too. theyre just.... i dont know what the word is that describes it. Now , i suppose apple is a bit different from me hating macs... Apple, i suppose i avoid their products because of the ipods.. bout 80% of people with mp3 players at school, have ipods. And i like to stand out and be different from everyone, which is why dont have an ipod. And then ipods remind me of a mac as well i guess.. i guess im wierd like that XD . I think ill just stick to my linux and windoze ^^
| [FuN]goku wrote: |
well im not sure if i hate apple or just macs....
I know i'm fed up with the constant attempts to bash windows on their commercials.. i mean i dont really like windows but i dont hate it either, its just.. one commercial was alright.. then they come out with like.. 20 different ones all attacking windows and how bad it is... which is really annoying after a while which makes me hate mac even more. Then i dont like the way the mac os is layed out, or its gui... or the cases and keyboards too. theyre just.... i dont know what the word is that describes it. Now , i suppose apple is a bit different from me hating macs... Apple, i suppose i avoid their products because of the ipods.. bout 80% of people with mp3 players at school, have ipods. And i like to stand out and be different from everyone, which is why dont have an ipod. And then ipods remind me of a mac as well i guess.. i guess im wierd like that XD . I think ill just stick to my linux and windoze ^^ |
Not sure why a commercial would make you mad...
I thought if anyone would be mad it'd be Bill Gates.
Anyway. Cool if you don't like macs. They're not for everyone. It happens.
But if I may make a recommendation, don't cast off iPod's just because everyone uses them. Or cause they are Apple (or like Mac). They are actually really good mp3 players. I've been suing them for years (not exclusively), and so far they are my favorite player.
Especially the iPodTouch. Those are fun.
I'm not saying go out and buy one. Just, idk, give them a chance? I guess. I think that's what I'm saying.I love MAC, and it just seems to fit with my workflow. I don't do any real gaming, and to me that is its only real short coming. Another could be the lack of specialized program support, ie... trading software. But this has been solved with the new macs. I enjoy the simplicity of the MAC from the installing/removal of software, to the lack of quirks/error msgs etc... Will i get a MAC again, definitely. The prices are ridiculously high, i do agree, but buying ram else where can save a few hundred (rather than the optional upgrade through them). BTW I am actually using my toshiba laptop as we speak, so it's not like i love mac's soooo much that i wont touch a PC.
Regarding iPods, what are your issues with it? There is an alternative OS you can use, can dual boot it if you'd like, rockbox... Great functionality, graphical eq's, support of wav, flac, etc... and can drag and drop the library.
| DarkAkira wrote: |
| [FuN]goku wrote: | well im not sure if i hate apple or just macs....
I know i'm fed up with the constant attempts to bash windows on their commercials.. i mean i dont really like windows but i dont hate it either, its just.. one commercial was alright.. then they come out with like.. 20 different ones all attacking windows and how bad it is... which is really annoying after a while which makes me hate mac even more. Then i dont like the way the mac os is layed out, or its gui... or the cases and keyboards too. theyre just.... i dont know what the word is that describes it. Now , i suppose apple is a bit different from me hating macs... Apple, i suppose i avoid their products because of the ipods.. bout 80% of people with mp3 players at school, have ipods. And i like to stand out and be different from everyone, which is why dont have an ipod. And then ipods remind me of a mac as well i guess.. i guess im wierd like that XD . I think ill just stick to my linux and windoze ^^ |
Not sure why a commercial would make you mad...
I thought if anyone would be mad it'd be Bill Gates.
Anyway. Cool if you don't like macs. They're not for everyone. It happens.
But if I may make a recommendation, don't cast off iPod's just because everyone uses them. Or cause they are Apple (or like Mac). They are actually really good mp3 players. I've been suing them for years (not exclusively), and so far they are my favorite player.
Especially the iPodTouch. Those are fun.
I'm not saying go out and buy one. Just, idk, give them a chance? I guess. I think that's what I'm saying. |
Mh, well i doubt 'i' myself would go out and buy an ipod, however, if by chance someone bought me one i'd probably look into that ipod linux i've heard of. | [FuN]goku wrote: |
Mh, well i doubt 'i' myself would go out and buy an ipod, however, if by chance someone bought me one i'd probably look into that ipod linux i've heard of. |
Meh...
I tried it a few times. It really wasn't worth the effort in my eyes. It doesn't even have good compatibility with the different iPods.
An iPod Touch jailbroken is all you really need.if you want some fun and are feeling a bit bored why dont you post this question on one of the mac forums on the net! Sit back and watch the flames come!
| teko wrote: |
| if you want some fun and are feeling a bit bored why dont you post this question on one of the mac forums on the net! Sit back and watch the flames come! |
The absolute worst place wouldn't be a forum, but a newsgroup. The os.mac.advocacy newsgroup is pretty vicious about defending their operating system of choice, which I don't see as much in the windows newsgroup. | Quote: |
| The absolute worst place wouldn't be a forum, but a newsgroup. The os.mac.advocacy newsgroup is pretty vicious about defending their operating system of choice, which I don't see as much in the windows newsgroup. |
You're surprised that people are somewhat fanatical in an advocacy newsgroup? Does windows even have and advocacy group? ...
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| I tried it a few times. It really wasn't worth the effort in my eyes. It doesn't even have good compatibility with the different iPods. |
Rockbox seems definitely worth it --- even if only for OGG support, which AFAIK is lacking from 'normal' ipods.
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| I don't do any real gaming, and to me that is its only real short coming. |
Yeah, because it's not like boot camp, cider or, y'know, natice ports of all Blizzard, Maxis and many other games exist. That would be cool. SIGH. Want to try claiming that gaming on linux is bad next? I dares ya.
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| Regarding iPods, what are your issues with it? |
- Everyone has one, and monopolies are bad
- DRM
- Lack of support for other formats without potentially warranty-voiding firmware changes
- Over-priced
- Navigation and normal usage are very simple, but that's not the same as 'easy'. The "NO BUTTONS', lowest common denominator design philosophy is not something I want to support
- Neither is ITMS as a business model
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| I'm not saying go out and buy one. Just, idk, give them a chance? I guess. I think that's what I'm saying. |
Fair enough. But why not give everything else a chance as well? I've always found creative MP3 players cheaper (and with better-quality audio) for the same price. Ok, so creative have never really trodden new ground in the MP3 player market, but there are no points for originality.
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| I know i'm fed up with the constant attempts to bash windows on their commercials.. |
They don't say anything that's inaccurate, and I think it's good in terms of public education to know that windows is not 'The OS' and that its serious shortcomings are not unavoidable.
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| windows for shure is as good as OSX |
No
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| I disagree that the menubar at the top instead of with the window supports single tasking |
So do I --- it saves screen space, and I would be doing it on Ubuntu if it weren't so hack-ish at the moment. It's a more sensible design metaphor to have common actions in a common place.
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| Microsoft and the PC in general must be doing something right. |
Yes; abusing a sneakily-attained monopoly, in breach of trade regulations in many countries. I'm sure if I had a casual disregard for the law, I'd be doing brilliantly in business too.
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| they've discovered some little secret that makes them better than the average computer user. |
They have. The average computer user probably thinks that Windows is the computer, and the fact that you're enlightened eough to know there are other OS choices than your own makes it all the more weird that you continue to support windows.
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| the fact that to do any customization beyond changing the wallpaper, you need to use 3rd-Party hacks, which are invariably payware and that you're stuck with a menubar at the top of the screen |
That's what you get for proprietary software. Windows isn't exactly mega-customisable without third-party software either.
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| I have to say most Mac users I know (myself included) don't bash Linux. In fact, our OS is sort of based off it. We merely grumble at the horrible morass that is Windows. |
There are boat-loads of mac users who lord it over linux for its "Ease of Use". Well, here's a news-flash. If linux could dis-regard 90% of all hardware as being "incompatible" and came pre-installed and configured on computers, it would be pretty damn "Easy to Use" too.I purchased a Mac last year for some specific reasons, such as it was very nice looking (the white MacBook is really pretty, contrasting with a whole bunch of black PCs in the market); it was thin, small and light, compared to most other notebooks; it was priced just a little higher than the competition at that time; many were saying it was less vulnerable to viruses and hacker attacks; many expert reviewers were stating it was the best choice for the $$ spent; and also I was a little curious about the spontaneous marketing Mac users happen to do for Apple.
I allways found it weird all the noise (some) Mac users used to make, regarding the superiority of their machine, but when I first got in touch with the MacBook, I was really (and gratfully) surprised. It should be mentioned that my previous computer was a Pentium III, 900MHz, 128 MB, running on Windows 98 SE, and then I got a Core 2 Duo, Mac OSX Tiger, MacBook. What a contrast!!! Much more stable, very easy to install/uninstall programs, very nice environment, very nice software package, good free software available... To summarize the story, less than pne year latter, I purchased a MacBookPro for myself (the MacBook was to my wife) and a MacMini for the children. I still plan to use Windows for all the old software I have, but I'll probably stick on Mac (until Apple ruins it, if it happens). It's a great set, the hardware and the OS! But it brought me problems too. I had a hard time finding internet access for it where I live, in Brazil.
People should not be so annoyed about the fuss that is made over the supposed superiority of a Mac or the Mac OS over PCs and Windows. It's like buying a new car: the owner usually praises his/her own decision to buy that brand/model, probably trying to convince himself/herself that he made the right choice.
People should not be attached to anything, specially to what others think!
| xbow wrote: |
| I actually not hate mac but the users, hmm what can i say, they become fanatic after using it, they treated other os (windows or even linux) as trash. |
All operating systems have their advocates and all OS advocates are really annoying. What makes the Mac/OS X advocates extra special super duper annoying is that they are right.most people hate mac users because as a general rule most of them are so far up their own dashboard its annoying to talk to them. Ive currently just moved over to mac and im loving it. I enjoy the fact that for my personal usage this machine is far far beyond anything ive used before although having said that as much as i love my new mac ive found at least 50% of the features it has to be useless and have perfectly good alternatives for pc. In fact i find a lot of the little tricks to be a little annoying. Having said that it does what i want it to do extremely well. The thing i hate most tho is the fact that ow theres all the mac users i know all of a sudden seem ten times more interested in talking to me about computers.
there are people who hate certain OS as no OS is perfect.
I don't use MacOS but I don't hate it either.
Why people hate MacOS? oh well, too many reasons and possibilities.
After I used linux, I realized how bad Windows was, so I started disliking windows. But I still think Windows is nice. It has a lot of features. But ever since I got a chance to use a Mac, I always liked it better.
Yeah, I find talking with the mac fans I know fairly difficult. They are very one sided and very close-minded. However that being said MS fanboys are just as bad.
| mcfearless wrote: |
| Yeah, I find talking with the mac fans I know fairly difficult. They are very one sided and very close-minded. However that being said MS fanboys are just as bad. |
basically fanboys are gay. Every operating system has its good and bad points its just a case of [picking out what suits your needs best. I chose mac as i use my computer almost solely for music production and media stuffs these days. Tbh theres not really much point in me using anything else. I think its been fairly well proven that mac are far beyond any other os for audio production. PCs do ok but now mac have the stronghold on protools and logic software wise they own the industry standards and as for linux well lets be honest there isnt anything worhtwhile for audio engineers on there. | Quote: |
| as for linux well lets be honest there isnt anything worhtwhile for audio engineers on there. |
By god, you're right! Jackd, rosegarden, lmms, oxygen, audacity and wine (allowing one to use many of the windows programs, including Guitar Pro) are well-known to not exist.
...
No.
The reason users behave how they do is in part due to advertising. Apple targets people with a little computer knowledge and their platform is 'better than windows', so better than windows they claim to be. MS advertising targets... well,basically no-one important in this discussion (enterprises), but their market exposure comes from being default, and legions of people (and some ITT) take the 'everything else is a minority for a reason' approach. Saly, linux advertises to everyone and advocates evangelism, so there are a great many linux fanboys too. | The Mitchell wrote: |
| ...and as for linux well lets be honest there isnt anything worthwhile for audio engineers on there. |
I'll agree on this one.
Yes linux has few audio editors/recorders, and Wine is available, but overall its still pretty terrible. I can't stand audacity, and the others programs native to linux were severely lacking for what I need to do in audio production.
The best I found for Windows Was Adobe Audition, which is by far the best for Windows. It is extremely powerful, and made by Adobe. But even that lacks in some areas.
I have to say Logic Pro 8 is an amazing application for audio production, and mixed with Reason 4.0 and some FL Studio via Parallels Desktop, there is nothing you can't do.
Another great app I found useful was Soundtrack that comes with Final Cut Studio 2. Really nice applications.I hate Windows. It's bloatware. It has security holes you could drive a Panzer tank through. Windows is no good for anything but gaming. It pretty much sucks for that, too, because of the security issues and resource hogging, but for some reason, most of the cool games only run on a Windblows PC.
I hate Mac, because I can't afford one.
I like Linux, because it's free and fast and more secure than Windows, but it won't run my favorite software.
*sigh*
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If I had a lot of money, I would have three computers:
a truly bad-ass PC gaming rig,
a Mac for creative endeavors; video and music editing, or graphics and animation, and
a Linux machine for web surfing and general productivity.
but I'm poor, so I have to make do with a PC. Can anybody point me to some clear, concise, printer-friendly, step-by-step instructions for setting up a dual boot Windows XP/Ubuntu machine with two separate hard drives?
EDIT:
NEVER MIND, I figured it out all by myself. 1. Fanboys are annoying regardless of their fandom. Mac fans seem to have this air of superiority about them because they paid twice as much for the same hardware just so they could use a shiny OS that isn't compatible with much. So when you add the elitism to the usual annoyance that fanboys cause, it's not hard to see why they're disliked.
Add to that the fact that Macs really are just PCs now with a limiting OS... what's to be elitist about?
not all mac-users are like that, that's just a silly stereotype.
Ok main reason for hating mac users is that 1st the system its self is incredibly limited. A retard could use it but for a developer it is hell. And also people are always well a mac is better, and if you ask why they tell you "because".
| Flarkis wrote: |
| Ok main reason for hating mac users is that 1st the system its self is incredibly limited. A retard could use it but for a developer it is hell. And also people are always well a mac is better, and if you ask why they tell you "because". |
OS X is just fine for development. I use it all the time for applications. Not a big deal.
And if someone says "because" for an answer, then they are retarded. There are alot of good reasons "why". If your actually curious, ask someone with a brain.
And I don't know where your getting this "Macs are limited" crap. Sounds like someone doesn't know what they are talking about.
