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The american presidential primaries

 


j_f_k
Well I never thought I'd ever be interested in a presidential campaign but here we go. On one side you've got the possibility of the first woman or black president, on the other side, an evangelical fruitcake and Mr Guliani. Peppered in-between on both sides are 3 people that aren't quite as interesting to an outsider, but are polling well enough to be serious contenders.

Michael bloomberg may well throw his hat into the ring as well.

That's 6 serious contenders to the presidency, (7 if you count bloomberg). I don't recall there being that many contenders in a presidential race. Usually one party has one candidate that's a given (usually the incumbent president or vice president) but in 2008 its an open field on both sides.

Moreover their fortunes seem to be see-sawing by the day, so its not as if there's a forgone conclusion anywhere and plenty of surprises are coming up.

Some will say RG has basically no chance however I wouldn't bet large sums againt him, simply on the basis of how different the results have gone in the different states.

The upside of this is that whoever wins won't be George Bush (although with that argument, one could make a humanoid statue out of dog droppings, dress it in a suit, and the result would be still be an improvement).

The downside is that whoever does win, will be someone who, at this present time, is enjoying the support of no more than 20% of the population, based on the strongest candidates having 33% of their party (gallop) assuming best case 60% support of their party (pollingreport.com)
ocalhoun
Well, I've got to do some research on McCain (because I've heard some good things about what he did in books published much earlier than he decided to run for president), but if he disappoints, it'll be a 3rd party for me.

The best idea I've heard of yet is to give a 'none of the above' option on the ballot. If 'none of the above' gets the majority of votes, the entire election must start over with new candidates.
Billy Hill
I think the US is ready for a black or woman president, just not this black or woman. I don't think Edwards has a chance, too wishy washy. My bet is on the black man getting the nomination and losing the big race because most of us are tired of Bushes and Clintons.

The only candidate for me would be a Duncan Hunter but I don't think he'll make it. I don't like his views on abortion. (I'm against it, but there are certain times like rape and disease that I could justify it.)

Mitt is hiding something, Rudy is too lenient on guns and illegals, Huckster is a sham, Fred isn't telling me everything, Ron Paul is a fruit cake with a lot of good ideas but he just takes it too far. McCain is a closet liberal (look at his record)
ocalhoun
Billy Hill wrote:
McCain is a closet liberal (look at his record)

That may be a good thing. After some objective research, I've discovered that both conservatives and liberals have their bad sides (which normally overwhelm the good). If one candidate shows the good points from both sides, and avoids most of the bad from both, he's got my vote, no matter which party he officially represents. Failing the occurrence of that miracle politician, it would be best to find a 3rd party candidate who is free from the 2 party farce and corruption.

Edit:
I've done some research now, and I'm very impressed with McCain.
His official positions on issues are nearly identical to the ones I would take (the major exception being border security, but my opinion on that is rather far-out), and most importantly, he seems to have been very much anti-corruption since he got burned by a scandal in the 90's.
Unless I find out something about him that is instantly disqualifying, he'll get my vote.
coolclay
I can't believe the huge negativeness of all the campaigns already. I mean if things are this bad just within the same parties, imagine how bad it will get during the actual elections. Do I smell a civil war?
Billy Hill
coolclay wrote:
Do I smell a civil war?


Newp. Not enough people care.
ocalhoun
coolclay wrote:
Do I smell a civil war?

No, that's the beauty of a democracy, the government can be changed without a civil war.
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