http://www.ansamed.info/en/news/ME01.YAM12350.html
A poll by satellite TV Al Jazeera on the attacks in Algiers on December 11:
Question: "Are you in favour of Al Qaedàs attacks in Algeria?".
Answer: 54% of the TV audience answered YES, they were in favor of the double suicide bomb attack in Algiers against the seat of the UN and the Constitutional Court | liljp617 wrote: |
| Are you surprised? |
Me? Absolutely not. But there are those on this board that are trying to convince me otherwise by saying that the vast majority of Muslims denounce this sort of behavior. *cough*halfbakedprince*cough* | Billy Hill wrote: |
| A poll by satellite TV Al Jazeera |
usa!
don't neglect your duty
bring democracy to algeria also.
but maybe
democratic oil in iraq for usa
and
democratic gas in algeria for France
fair enough!There you go again, blaming 5,000 years of hatred and discontent on a 300 year old country. 
(Radical) Islam has been doing this crap a lot longer than the USA has been around. You're just mad 'cuz we're not going to take it any more. 
| Billy Hill wrote: |
(Radical) Islam has been doing this crap a lot longer than the USA has been around. |
No, radical Islam (the movement which uses terrorism to achieve its goals) started in the 20th century. | MrBlueSky wrote: |
| Billy Hill wrote: |
(Radical) Islam has been doing this crap a lot longer than the USA has been around. |
No, radical Islam (the movement which uses terrorism to achieve its goals) started in the 20th century. |
You're right, it's the Arabs, who are the (Radical) Islamics, who have been doing this crap for 5,000 years, only now it's got a different name.Haha, I hate religion.
Oh well.
So a stupid poll says that terrorists are in favor of killing themselves to kill others, surprised?
As I said, the people in favor of terrorism are the ones who mainly vote, the rest are too scared to openly denounce it.
*ducks for cover behind a rock, awaiting a hailstorm of dictionary references showing how inaccurate my post is*
| Billy Hill wrote: |
You're right, it's the Arabs, who are the (Radical) Islamics, who have been doing this crap for 5,000 years, only now it's got a different name. |
Hmm. Care to explain? My knowledge of history must be a little rusty. If I remember correctly: about 300 b.C. the West invaded the East (Alexander the Great). Two centuries later we did it again (this time the Romans). Halfway the middleages Arabs, Jews and Christians were living peacefully together in the East until a movement, called the Crusades, started. In order to protect their economical interests Western countries invaded the Middle East, slaughtering large amounts of Arabs, Jews and eachother. Indeed. A lot of hate and aggression, but it came from the West. Where do I have to look for this period of 5000 years you talk about, in which Arabs did this thing you call 'crap'?
After WO2 the Western Allies confiscated a piece of land and denoted it a homeland for the Jews. Thus creating the Middle-East conflict. In the 70's the US helped a dictator (S. Hussein) to the throne in Iraq, in order to protect their economical interest in the Middle East. Saddam could reign with free hand, until he invaded Kuwait. Now there was oil at stake, so the West freed Kuwait (but not the Iraqee people). It is only when Saddam becomes a threat again, the West comes to the 'rescue' of the Iraquee people, to free them from the situation in which they put them in the first place. This too-little-too-late and questionable attempt to undo their mistakes from several years ago they call "Bringing democracy".
Looking at the last 3000 years in history, in particular the last half of the 20th century, it is safe to say that, if the Arabs hate the West, it is understandable. Especially if you consider that 8 or 9 centuries after the Crusades the West again comes bursting into te Middle East to bring aggression and chaos. This time it's not called a Crusade, but it's called 'Bringing Democracy'. The motive remained the same: economics (this time its oil). The method is the same: a barbaric display of power combined with an ego-centric view on reality. | Billy Hill wrote: |
There you go again, blaming 5,000 years of hatred and discontent on a 300 year old country.
(Radical) Islam has been doing this crap a lot longer than the USA has been around. You're just mad 'cuz we're not going to take it any more. |
lol.... 
| Billy Hill wrote: |
| You're right, it's the Arabs, who are the (Radical) Islamics, who have been doing this crap for 5,000 years, only now it's got a different name. |
Well, since Islam is itself only about 1500 years old this is a little strange.
As for Arab history - the word 'Arab' dates back to about 9th Century BC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab | Billy Hill wrote: |
| You're right, it's the Arabs, who are the (Radical) Islamics, who have been doing this crap for 5,000 years, only now it's got a different name. |
Really now? Just like Bush invaded Iraq 259 years ago? (sarcasm)
Islam started 1500 years ago, so I highly doubt radical Islamists have been doing this for 5000 years. I no longer credit your posts any more, seeing as how inaccurate they are.
Please, tell me how illogically structured my post was. Please, quote every word, give a dictionary reference, and tell me how wrong I am. | HalfBloodPrince wrote: |
Islam started 1500 years ago, so I highly doubt radical Islamists have been doing this for 5000 years. I no longer credit your posts any more, seeing as how inaccurate they are.
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Well, he likes to provoke. That´s why he post these things. And I have to give him credit for reaching his goal: provoking people But his provoking would be better if he wasn´t putting a lot of nonsense is his posts.
Last edited by MrBlueSky on Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:47 am; edited 1 time in totalIn the dim and distant past, before the WWW, in the days when the main use of the Internet was Usenet, the word we used for people who like to provoke others was 'Troll'. The word still applies today.
There are various theories about the origin of the term. My own understanding is that it originates with the fishing term 'trolling', which means to fish by dangling bait over the side and waiting for a bite. The meaning in this context, therefore, is quite obvious - one makes a contentious posting with the hope of 'snagging' responses.
In the early UseNet days it was normally a fairly gentle operation - trolling for newbies - normally an insider joke on a particular newsgroup, designed to illicit earnest and passionate responses from the uninitiated. Nowadays it has become far less subtle and more crude - simply an attempt to get noticed.
To ask, before blaming the Arabs, why don't you ask yourselves, Why terrorize? And what does the terrorists want?
The best answer of these questions are because USA wants to conquer the World, and the World wants to STOP the USA. USA is the leading government who inspires ALQAEDA to respond every step. You can imagine no ALQAEDA existed in Iraq before the US invasion. ALQAEDA created with the response of USA troops in the GULF. The War against Terrorists is a war BETWEEN The USA Republicans and ALQAEDA .
Another QUESTION is, why ALQAEDA never attacked CHINA, CANADA, SWEDEN, etc...?
I answer, because, ALQAEDA is political terrorist group who terrorizes her targets, and she chooses her targets by enlisting the opponent's aggressive activities in the motherlands of ALQAEDA members.
And as I think, all Ant-Bush countries (such as CHINA, N. KOREA and RUSSIA) have a close relationship with OSAMA BIN LADEN and his likes. That's why OSAMA BIN LADEN is still alive among the Shadow of Sir George W. Bush.
PS: This is wide opinion which every non-Bushist (President Bush Supporter) believes, I'm not Arab, I'm an African, but I see the truth... What is Going on Right Now on Planet World is new HITLERIZATION, which can lead to WW3
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And as I think, all Ant-Bush countries (such as CHINA, N. KOREA and RUSSIA) have a close relationship with OSAMA BIN LADEN and his likes. That's why OSAMA BIN LADEN is still alive among the Shadow of Sir George W. Bush.
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That's a clear example of the dispute between the United States of America and Great Russia, Russia threats to USA by giving out the Nuclear Documents, and USA threats Russia by supporting Chechnya. This is a fair game, and we are the out lookers and the audience.
Last edited by jmlworld on Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:06 pm; edited 1 time in total | MrBlueSky wrote: |
| My knowledge of history must be a little rusty. If I remember correctly: about 300 b.C. the West invaded the East (Alexander the Great). Two centuries later we did it again (this time the Romans). Halfway the middleages Arabs, Jews and Christians were living peacefully together in the East until a movement, called the Crusades, started. In order to protect their economical interests Western countries invaded the Middle East, slaughtering large amounts of Arabs, Jews and eachother. Indeed. A lot of hate and aggression, but it came from the West. |
Your knowledge of history is not rusty, it is lacking! Oh, you forgot the Muslim invasions of Europe! (As a matter of fact Islam spread only through conquests: West, East, etc)
Let's remember together only the important ones, shall we?
Many sieges of Constantinople since 674 until the fall of 1453. Centuries of Muslim attacks and conquests made the Southern and Eastern coast of the Mediterranean a part of Islam. Western Turkey was Greek 2000 years ago! Greece and the Balkan region were conquered and kept under Muslim rule until 19th century.
Battle of Tours, 732 stopped Muslim invasion of Europe through Spain. They were repelled from Spain only centuries later.
The Muslim armies were stopped twice outside Vienna: 1529 and 1683.
So much for your ignorant theory of a peaceful East and an aggressive West!
Concerning the poll:
A TV poll gives highly inaccurate results. Anyway I think the Al-Qaeda terrorists are supported by the majority of the Muslims. I cannot forget the chock-full streets of Arabs celebrating the September 11 attacks. That is hate! | smarter wrote: |
| MrBlueSky wrote: | | My knowledge of history must be a little rusty. If I remember correctly: about 300 b.C. the West invaded the East (Alexander the Great). Two centuries later we did it again (this time the Romans). Halfway the middleages Arabs, Jews and Christians were living peacefully together in the East until a movement, called the Crusades, started. In order to protect their economical interests Western countries invaded the Middle East, slaughtering large amounts of Arabs, Jews and eachother. Indeed. A lot of hate and aggression, but it came from the West. |
Concerning the poll:
A TV poll gives highly inaccurate results. Anyway I think the Al-Qaeda terrorists are supported by the majority of the Muslims. I cannot forget the chock-full streets of Arabs celebrating the September 11 attacks. That is hate! |
Why do you think most of Muslims support ALQAEDA while ALQAEDA sloughters Muslim guys everyday?
As a matter of fact Alqaeda plays the rule: THE FRIEND OF MY ENEMY IS MY ENEMEY... And YES, Arabs support ALQAEDA, becous of THE ENEMY OF ISRAEL IS THEIR FRIEND... They don't care whether Alqaeda kills inocent ppl or not, they Support Alqaeda because, George W. Bush supports Israel, where Arabs belief that Israel is their No. 1 enemy! But I think this is bit stupid...
Last edited by jmlworld on Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:16 pm; edited 1 time in total | smarter wrote: |
| Anyway I think the Al-Qaeda terrorists are supported by the majority of the Muslims. |
You are wrong. So wrong, in fact, that I cannot express how wrong (and blunt) you are in the 20,000 character limit for a post on this forum. | HalfBloodPrince wrote: |
| smarter wrote: | | Anyway I think the Al-Qaeda terrorists are supported by the majority of the Muslims. |
You are wrong. So wrong, in fact, that I cannot express how wrong (and blunt) you are in the 20,000 character limit for a post on this forum. |
Most of the Muslims DO NOT support Alqaeda. By the way, they support 'Freedom of Religions'... Cos, Muslims are not responsible everyone, They are responsible only themselves!
In addition, ALQAEDA fights with the west because of POLITICAL reasons, not because of RELIGIOUS reasons. But I dunno, many non-Muslim communities link ALQAEDA activities with Islam...But isnt it like owned by arabs.
i am surprised by the low number of votes 
| jmlworld wrote: |
| smarter wrote: | | MrBlueSky wrote: | | My knowledge of history must be a little rusty. If I remember correctly: about 300 b.C. the West invaded the East (Alexander the Great). Two centuries later we did it again (this time the Romans). Halfway the middleages Arabs, Jews and Christians were living peacefully together in the East until a movement, called the Crusades, started. In order to protect their economical interests Western countries invaded the Middle East, slaughtering large amounts of Arabs, Jews and eachother. Indeed. A lot of hate and aggression, but it came from the West. |
Concerning the poll:
A TV poll gives highly inaccurate results. Anyway I think the Al-Qaeda terrorists are supported by the majority of the Muslims. I cannot forget the chock-full streets of Arabs celebrating the September 11 attacks. That is hate! |
Why do you think most of Muslims support ALQAEDA while ALQAEDA sloughters Muslim guys everyday?
As a matter of fact Alqaeda plays the rule: THE FRIEND OF MY ENEMY IS MY ENEMEY... And YES, Arabs support ALQAEDA, becous of THE ENEMY OF ISRAEL IS THEIR FRIEND... They don't care whether Alqaeda kills inocent ppl or not, they Support Alqaeda because, George W. Bush supports Israel, where Arabs belief that Israel is their No. 1 enemy! But I think this is bit stupid... |
You my friend need to do some reading and research before making absurd statements.Look. Arabs support terrorists just as much as Americans support rapists and bank robbers.
I know that statement sounds totally absurd, but you, all of you, need to understand that saying all Arabs support terrorists is just as absurd.
Same goes for saying all Muslims support terrorists.
