Did you know that if McDonalds never existed, and it were to start as a new food-company today, with the same reciped/items, it would have absolutely NO chance of being approved?
McDonalds
According to whom?
I totally agree that a store like McDonald's shoult not be approved, but the FDA seems pretty firmly in the pocket of industry to me. I think they'll approve just about anything that will make some corporation richer, so long as it doesn't make them look too bad. Peruse through some ingredient lists at the grocery store, it's ridiculous...
I totally agree that a store like McDonald's shoult not be approved, but the FDA seems pretty firmly in the pocket of industry to me. I think they'll approve just about anything that will make some corporation richer, so long as it doesn't make them look too bad. Peruse through some ingredient lists at the grocery store, it's ridiculous...
This thread makes me hunger for a fish fillet and a chocolate shake.
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NO food company from the 50's would be approved now. What's the point here?
Approved in what respect..food safety, a business loan..?
| HalfBloodPrince wrote: |
| Did you know that if McDonalds never existed, and it were to start as a new food-company today, with the same reciped/items, it would have absolutely NO chance of being approved? |
As someone already said: ACCORDING TO WHOM?
On the other hand, I witnessed the beneficent impact of McDonald's standards of respect for customers in my country: very polite employees (only students), clean restaurants inside and outside, playground for children, etc. (Of course, it's possible that they have higher or newer standards on the foreign markets.)
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As someone already said: ACCORDING TO WHOM? On the other hand, I witnessed the beneficent impact of McDonald's standards of respect for customers in my country: very polite employees (only students), clean restaurants inside and outside, playground for children, etc. (Of course, it's possible that they have higher or newer standards on the foreign markets.) |
Well they have to make up for their food killing people in some way. Not that I blame them for obesity and all, but the way their food is prepared doesn't help a whole lot (obviously it's people's choice to eat there or not but...).
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On the other hand, I witnessed the beneficent impact of McDonald's standards of respect for customers in my country: very polite employees (only students), clean restaurants inside and outside, playground for children, etc. (Of course, it's possible that they have higher or newer standards on the foreign markets.) |
What country? The difference I know is that in China, for example, they can put one guy on each job. In the US everything is automated with timers for busy people to catch. In China all the food comes out perfect. In the US you get a thrown-together mess.
Also, in China, Mc Donalds is a high scale meal. Most Americans resort to eating there while chinese save up to go there. Better than rat-on-a-stick i guess or a bowl of rice and a fish head.
| HalfBloodPrince wrote: |
| Did you know that if McDonalds never existed, and it were to start as a new food-company today, with the same reciped/items, it would have absolutely NO chance of being approved? |
Where is that backup of that? Im not sure about that.
Ok this claim seriously needs some evidence to back it up. Why wouldn't it be approved? It is a company that provides food that doesn't kill you instantly. I'm pretty sure that's all people look for. Maybe what you mean is without the history of the brand and loyalty associated with a fast food chain would not be viable in this day and age.
This debate is rather silly.
The fact is that new McDonalds franchises open all the time. They have to comply with existing regulations and standards. Ergo McDonalds would be, and are, allowed to open today.
The only possible point I can see being made might be that McDonalds has, over the years, sucessfully lobbied to change, weaken or defeat legislation that might affect it's global sales. That is, however, another argument completely......
The fact is that new McDonalds franchises open all the time. They have to comply with existing regulations and standards. Ergo McDonalds would be, and are, allowed to open today.
The only possible point I can see being made might be that McDonalds has, over the years, sucessfully lobbied to change, weaken or defeat legislation that might affect it's global sales. That is, however, another argument completely......
I thought there would be some evidence or news article link to support this (Would be very glad to get hold of that one)..
I am anti-McDonald myself.. as in, I am anti-fast food in general.. and also I am worried about the emotional impact of McD's advertisements on young impressionable minds.
I am anti-McDonald myself.. as in, I am anti-fast food in general.. and also I am worried about the emotional impact of McD's advertisements on young impressionable minds.
| ganesh wrote: |
| I thought there would be some evidence or news article link to support this (Would be very glad to get hold of that one)..
I am anti-McDonald myself.. as in, I am anti-fast food in general.. and also I am worried about the emotional impact of McD's advertisements on young impressionable minds. |
Don't misunderstand me - I can't stand McDonalds, KFC and the rest of the fast-food giants. I've had 3 or 4 McDonalds in my life and those on occasions where there was little or no choice (nephew's birthday party and the like).
My point was, simply, that the basis of the thread is simply wrong. If you want to make arguments against McDonalds it is relatively easy to do so - look at their attempted gagging of critics, their policies on agriculture (deforestation), employee working conditions and so on. Base criticisms on fact, however, not glib soundbites which are inaccurate, because this simply detracts from the criticism and allows supporters of McDonalds to say that the majority of their critics are badly informed.
there are still plenty of new businesses which are allowed to open up using similar templates.
would they still succeed in the same way in respect of the menu they offer and the american opsession with health, diet and all that?
that throws up the question: did "america" help form mcdonalds or the other way round?
was obesity and mis-nutrition a problem before mcdonalds or did they actively contribute to this huge problem?
i don't know
ponder that
cheers
would they still succeed in the same way in respect of the menu they offer and the american opsession with health, diet and all that?
that throws up the question: did "america" help form mcdonalds or the other way round?
was obesity and mis-nutrition a problem before mcdonalds or did they actively contribute to this huge problem?
i don't know
ponder that
cheers
Well. propably. Its a coriuos think all about mcdonalds. its amazing. I like mcdonalds... and thats a problem if you cant control yourself going there to eat.
i can say mcdonald's is the most successful of fast-food chain in the world.
i'm lovin' it, if you don't like it, sorry this is not your place. that all.
it's up to you to judge what food you can eat and what you can not eat.
i will take mcd as my target, i hope to start a business like this one day.
i'm lovin' it, if you don't like it, sorry this is not your place. that all.
it's up to you to judge what food you can eat and what you can not eat.
i will take mcd as my target, i hope to start a business like this one day.
I am a fat bastard, living in London... I relocate from Romania and there I went to Mac's three-four times in... five years?
I will tell you this: How can you be "full" with McDonalds food? I was eating 2 hamburgers there, a juice and after that, I left... to eat something.
Second try... two years after, I bought 2 cheeseburgers, I eat, I left and I went to... EXACTLY! I went to grab some food.
I really don't understand how's Mac doing the food but for me is no good. I think I should eat TRIPLE TIME than my food at home to feel ok... and this is wrong.
Have you seen "Supersize Me?"
edit: I am in London for 6 months now, I eat just one time at Mac and... guess what? ha ha ha...
I will tell you this: How can you be "full" with McDonalds food? I was eating 2 hamburgers there, a juice and after that, I left... to eat something.
Second try... two years after, I bought 2 cheeseburgers, I eat, I left and I went to... EXACTLY! I went to grab some food.
I really don't understand how's Mac doing the food but for me is no good. I think I should eat TRIPLE TIME than my food at home to feel ok... and this is wrong.
Have you seen "Supersize Me?"
edit: I am in London for 6 months now, I eat just one time at Mac and... guess what? ha ha ha...
I don't know why people get so bent out of shape over McDonalds. It's not great food but individuals have a choice whether to eat their food or whether to feed McD's food to their children. If I eat McDonalds every day I'll get fat, similarly if I eat fish and chips every day (as some people probably do) I'll get fat but I wouldn't dream of blaming the guy in the fish and chip shop.
McDonalds do have a responsibility to be honest about the contents of their food but we all individually need to take responsibility for the contents of our stomachs.
McDonalds do have a responsibility to be honest about the contents of their food but we all individually need to take responsibility for the contents of our stomachs.
Heres an interesting fact for you - 
Did you know, there is no laws on what E numbers, additives and sweetners can be put into medicines? Banned products that aren't allowed to be put in food, are used in medicines for them to taste nice to little children. Bet ya didnt know that ey
Did you know, there is no laws on what E numbers, additives and sweetners can be put into medicines? Banned products that aren't allowed to be put in food, are used in medicines for them to taste nice to little children. Bet ya didnt know that ey
We had a mc donalds in our city till it got blown up by a cylinder blast. That was so sad! Im not sure if it has been repaired!
Odd, I wasn't aware that restaurants needed FDA approval to start up...
I thought all they needed was a business license and passing health inspections.
I thought all they needed was a business license and passing health inspections.
| MRaftery wrote: |
| I don't know why people get so bent out of shape over McDonalds. It's not great food but individuals have a choice whether to eat their food or whether to feed McD's food to their children. If I eat McDonalds every day I'll get fat, similarly if I eat fish and chips every day (as some people probably do) I'll get fat but I wouldn't dream of blaming the guy in the fish and chip shop.
McDonalds do have a responsibility to be honest about the contents of their food but we all individually need to take responsibility for the contents of our stomachs. |
I think a huge part of it is that McDonalds's offers pretty cheap prices (and thus targeting families of lower income) and also, they have many convenient locations. My old high school had off-campus lunch, but the only four restaurants near it were a McDonalds and three more expensive restaurants, including a Bennigan's. SO basically if you had no way to go home for lunch or weren't able t obring lunch with you, you'd usually end up eating at McDonalds. So many people would get a McChicken or two, medium fries and a cup of water, which comes out to $2 or $3, compared to the $5-$8 meal at other places nearby.
| MRaftery wrote: |
| I don't know why people get so bent out of shape over McDonalds. It's not great food but individuals have a choice whether to eat their food or whether to feed McD's food to their children. If I eat McDonalds every day I'll get fat, similarly if I eat fish and chips every day (as some people probably do) I'll get fat but I wouldn't dream of blaming the guy in the fish and chip shop.
McDonalds do have a responsibility to be honest about the contents of their food but we all individually need to take responsibility for the contents of our stomachs. |
Same. I'm a fat guy (and on a diet), and I don't blame McDonalds, and its ilk, for my round shape and related health issues.
It takes two to tango here - one to supply it, and one to shove it in your mouth. And last I checked, Macca's weren't shoving food down my gob by force.
This is probably going to sound a little weird, but I do like McDonald's Ice Cream. They have really good quality soft serve and at rediculously good prices.
That is the only food at MacDonalds that remotely interests me. If I can get past the oil smell in which the fries are done, as that can be very offputting. I can sometimes smell a McDonalds a mile away.
That is the only food at MacDonalds that remotely interests me. If I can get past the oil smell in which the fries are done, as that can be very offputting. I can sometimes smell a McDonalds a mile away.
As pointed out before, the original post is a ridiculous statement obviously without any substance to it. Might be the most unnecessary post i've read here. McD would only be allowed because it has existed for a long time? Thats the dumbest thing Ive heard. It might not be healthy, but its not like its poision. It is only dangerous for you if you have no clue of how much of it you can it without it affecting your health. With that logic everything would be illegal. Forks can kill people if you use em wrong.
"Did you know that if the fork was invented today, it would be illegal?"
"Did you know that if the fork was invented today, it would be illegal?"
If the OP were right, then Ben and Gerry's ice cream would be an illegal drug. That stuff is very addictive
so would swedish kebab pizza, i cannot stop eating that stuff. although i cant eat it right now since im in hawaii. it is actually the one thing i miss the most about home. it is soo delicious!
I don't see McDonalds as a problem. Maybe that's because I don't eat there much (1 burger and 2-4 fries in 10+ years ) but it can be as nutricious if not more than some homemade quick lunch whatever they sell now adays. Also I had a neighbor that ate bread and mayo or something like that for lunch at one point. I think mostly it was because their family prioritized stuff more than food (food is top priority in my house :O) and they had a huge big screen tv couple cars and other stuff where they put their money into and they didn't get quality food.
hopefully this all made sense
) but it can be as nutricious if not more than some homemade quick lunch whatever they sell now adays. Also I had a neighbor that ate bread and mayo or something like that for lunch at one point. I think mostly it was because their family prioritized stuff more than food (food is top priority in my house :O) and they had a huge big screen tv couple cars and other stuff where they put their money into and they didn't get quality food.
hopefully this all made sense
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