my bros mate died in the iraqi warWar in iraq
my bros mate died in the iraqi warHe did not die in vain, we all appreciate what he put on the line for the rest of us. Your brother's mate (don't know what you mean by that) and every other casualty America has experienced will be remembered and honored.
He dies at war. For a soldier, in my opinion, that's the greatest death. He will definitely be remembered as a hero.
Everyone who dies in Iraq, the soldiers or the innocent, will all be remembered after the war is over.
Everyone who dies in Iraq, the soldiers or the innocent, will all be remembered after the war is over.
What he has done is heroic at the least. It will have lasting effects for generations to come. The world really will be a better place because of it. Our children will be safer, and our future will be safer.
God Speed.
God Speed.
so many people die ,but so many people get they what they want.
| tidruG wrote: |
| He dies at war. For a soldier, in my opinion, that's the greatest death. He will definitely be remembered as a hero.
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He died in a wrong war.
USA people are doing something they don;t want to do and died in it
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He died in a wrong war. USA people are doing something they don;t want to do and died in it |
I don't think that makes a difference. It's still a war... there's a hell of a lot of difference between being shot in a battlefield surrounded by dead bodies or injured fellow-soldiers and dying peacefully at home or your local hospital or any place that's decently civilized.
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How can u justify this im British and im due to join the RAF shortly. I have known men who are out there fighting and not one of them believe it is a wrong war why? because if saddam was still in power then more people would be dead more mass graves the world would become a more sinster place. before saying a war is wrong i suggest you do ur homework.
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He died in a wrong war. USA people are doing something they don;t want to do and died in it |
Excuse me, but if he's in the United States military,
HE's THERE BECAUSE HE CHOSE TO BE THERE!
HE VOLUNTEERED TO GO!
The US military does NOT have a draft. People sign up because they WANT to, NOT because someone put a gun to his head!
| yupeng wrote: | ||
He died in a wrong war. USA people are doing something they don;t want to do and died in it |
"The military don't start wars. Politicians start wars." - William Westmoreland Jr.
A soldier is ready to lay down his life in war, not because he necessarily stands behind the cause, but because he believes that this is what he must do. That he must fight for his country, no matter what.
The cause of the war and the intentions of the politicians who start the war can possibly be questioned.
But a soldier's sacrifice cannot be questioned.
| mOrpheuS wrote: | ||||
"The military don't start wars. Politicians start wars." - William Westmoreland Jr. A soldier is ready to lay down his life in war, not because he necessarily stands behind the cause, but because he believes that this is what he must do. That he must fight for his country, no matter what. The cause of the war and the intentions of the politicians who start the war can possibly be questioned. But a soldier's sacrifice cannot be questioned. |
Amen to that. And to s3nd k3ys and James, let's not start another "Was Bush right in attacking Iraq?" flame war, at least not in this particuar thread.
mOrpheuS, very nicely put and right on the money.
Ok, I'll start a new one; "USA IS FORCING IT'S CITIZENS AT GUNPOINT TO GO TO IRAQ AND FIGHT IN THE WAR FOR OIL."
Seriously, I need to stop worrying so much about all the ignorance that's going on around me and quit letting it get under my skin. It just drives me nuts when people can't think for themselves, and believe everything CNN tells them to believe.
The good news is, there are enough intelligent people out there that can see past all the lieberal BS media propoganda and know the real truth, and I doubt the lieberals will do much more than make themselves look like the liars they really are. (Something the lieberals don't want you to see is what they're really all about..)
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Amen to that. And to s3nd k3ys and James, let's not start another "Was Bush right in attacking Iraq?" flame war, at least not in this particuar thread. |
Ok, I'll start a new one; "USA IS FORCING IT'S CITIZENS AT GUNPOINT TO GO TO IRAQ AND FIGHT IN THE WAR FOR OIL."
Seriously, I need to stop worrying so much about all the ignorance that's going on around me and quit letting it get under my skin. It just drives me nuts when people can't think for themselves, and believe everything CNN tells them to believe.
The good news is, there are enough intelligent people out there that can see past all the lieberal BS media propoganda and know the real truth, and I doubt the lieberals will do much more than make themselves look like the liars they really are. (Something the lieberals don't want you to see is what they're really all about..)
Wait, I thought he said NOT to start a flame war in this thread.
In my opinion a soldier dies equal to a person in a hospital bed. This may sound cold or unsympathetic but at an individual level it is the same. The idea of being a hero is death's bait. In my humble and not-wanting-to-offend-anyone opinion.
In my opinion a soldier dies equal to a person in a hospital bed. This may sound cold or unsympathetic but at an individual level it is the same. The idea of being a hero is death's bait. In my humble and not-wanting-to-offend-anyone opinion.
| Grimboy wrote: |
| In my opinion a soldier dies equal to a person in a hospital bed. This may sound cold or unsympathetic but at an individual level it is the same. The idea of being a hero is death's bait. In my humble and not-wanting-to-offend-anyone opinion. |
Biologically/medically that's corect.
Fortunately, that kind of thinking is not what drives us humans.
humans have emotions.
there's one difference between the two.
death due to illness/accident is a waste of a human life, it achieves nothing.
The same cannot be said of a soldier who dies fighting.
The idea of using the idea of heroism as a bait is the political thinking coming to fore...
In no way does it undermine martyrdom.
And yes I too agree with you...let's keep political debates out of here please.
| yupeng wrote: | ||
He died in a wrong war. USA people are doing something they don;t want to do and died in it |
yeah they died in a wrong place i think the soldier in iraq dont want to stay there...stop war ok
A moderator, a user and an administrator have asked in (almost) 3 successive posts to keep political debates out of this thread... I suppose I'll make it simpler...
No more posts about what you think about who's right in the Iraq war.
No more posts about whether the liberals have got it right or the conservatives have.
I'd hate to lock this thread, but if someone else attempts to start another debate in here, I defintiely will.
No more posts about what you think about who's right in the Iraq war.
No more posts about whether the liberals have got it right or the conservatives have.
I'd hate to lock this thread, but if someone else attempts to start another debate in here, I defintiely will.
meanwhile the man exists the war too
This is a war for freedom or an occupation?
This is a war for Iraqi freedom. American soldiers are willing to risk everything for their country, and nothing can be more honorable. There are some who won't even defend their country in a discussion. If the US did not have citizens who are willing to do this then we would still be under British rule (speculative). I am thankful for what our military does and I support the troops without question. If I were against the war, I would still support the troops because they are fighting for the great country I live in.
Read this:
And this:
And now, just for kicks, read this:
I repeat one part I find rather interesting, given the other 2 posts I quoted:
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| shr3dd wrote: |
| This is a war for Iraqi freedom. American soldiers are willing to risk everything for their country, and nothing can be more honorable. There are some who won't even defend their country in a discussion. If the US did not have citizens who are willing to do this then we would still be under British rule (speculative). I am thankful for what our military does and I support the troops without question. If I were against the war, I would still support the troops because they are fighting for the great country I live in. |
And this:
| samh wrote: |
| This is a war for freedom or an occupation? |
And now, just for kicks, read this:
| tidruG wrote: |
| A moderator, a user and an administrator have asked in (almost) 3 successive posts to keep political debates out of this thread... I suppose I'll make it simpler...
No more posts about what you think about who's right in the Iraq war. No more posts about whether the liberals have got it right or the conservatives have. I'd hate to lock this thread, but if someone else attempts to start another debate in here, I defintiely will. |
I repeat one part I find rather interesting, given the other 2 posts I quoted:
| tidruG wrote: |
| I'd hate to lock this thread, but if someone else attempts to start another debate in here, I defintiely will. |
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