It is said that Nos gave a slip of paper to one of close friends and asked him not to open it even after his death
After his death the friend got curious and a few months after the death the friend opened it
and guess what he saw on the slip of the paper
the exact date on which the friend opened it !
Nostradamus is freaky. I watched the video all about him and it gave me the chills. And that was 10 years ago. Sheesh. It kinda tainted me
Who's Nostradomus?
I hope for a detailed answer. Thanks in advance!
may God bless you.
| yagnyavalkya wrote: |
| It is said that Nos gave a slip of paper to one of close friends and asked him not to open it even after his death |
Said by whom? References? Evidence?I hear someone say that
Anyway there are a lot of tales about Nos
The problem with Nostradamus is that predictions are made so ambiguous that one of two things happens.
Post-diction. Follows of Nostradamus use one of his quantains (i believe that's what they're called) and apply it to events that have already occured.
Wording is so unclear that his writings can apply to many things.
Of course, there are always those who will follow him. I'm just not sure, I suppose a healthy dose of skeptisism is good. Exactly. All Nostradamus did was make extremely ambiguous statements. Now, hundreds of years later, we try to apply every little thing he said to something that has priorly happened. It's all a crock.
| AnalogPlayers wrote: |
| Exactly. All Nostradamus did was make extremely ambiguous statements. Now, hundreds of years later, we try to apply every little thing he said to something that has priorly happened. It's all a crock. |
Like the Bible. | liljp617 wrote: |
| AnalogPlayers wrote: | | Exactly. All Nostradamus did was make extremely ambiguous statements. Now, hundreds of years later, we try to apply every little thing he said to something that has priorly happened. It's all a crock. |
Like the Bible. |
Like many documents of dubious origin written a long time ago. Still, even the Bible has bits of truth in it, whereas Nostrodamus' drivel sounds consistently gibberish.Nostradamus wrote his predictions in quatrains, and he used several different languages, astrological references, place names that were archaic even in his own time, and mythological references to hide what he was saying. He wrote so many quatrains that it was inevitable that he would be right with some of them:
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63
Pestilences extinguished, the world becomes smaller,
for a long time the lands will be inhabited peacefully.
People will travel safely through the sky (over) land and seas:
then wars will start up again. |
But others are so dense with metaphor and obscure references it's impossible to know for sure if he was right because there is no way to know what he was talking about:
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17
The field of the temple of the vestal virgin,
Not far from Elne and the Pyrenees mountains:
The great tube is hidden in the trunk.
To the north rivers overflown and vines battered. |
He's an interesting historical figure, but what use is a prophet who's prophesies can only be understood after they happen? For example, here's the quatrain where he supposedly predicted WWII and Hitler by name:
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24
Beasts ferocious from hunger will swim across rivers:
The greater part of the region will be against the Hister,
The great one will cause it to be dragged in an iron cage,
When the German child will observe nothing. |
| Bru, stuffce wrote: |
| liljp617 wrote: | | AnalogPlayers wrote: | | Exactly. All Nostradamus did was make extremely ambiguous statements. Now, hundreds of years later, we try to apply every little thing he said to something that has priorly happened. It's all a crock. |
Like the Bible. |
Like many documents of dubious origin written a long time ago. Still, even the Bible has bits of truth in it, whereas Nostrodamus' drivel sounds consistently gibberish. |
His have come true (in the same sense that the Bible has held true fortunes) before. There's really not much difference...the Bible seems even more far fetched in my opinion. | liljp617 wrote: |
| There's really not much difference...the Bible seems even more far fetched in my opinion. |
True enough, the Bible is full of all sorts of rubbish, but there are bits that make sense. The story of the crucifixion, for example, makes pretty good sense up to the point where Jesus came back as a zombie. Nostrodamus' bullshirt is largely meaningless and only appears to make some kind of sense with the most liberal interpretation.The bible is filled with parables. It is rarely assumed by those with extended knowledge of the bible that the stories are actually supposed to be true. Every story is meant to teach an overall moral message. Sure, some people really think that women were created from the rib of Adam, but a good portion of those knowledgeable of the bible realize not to take it at the value of the word, but the deeper meanings.
You cannot do this with Nostradamus.
| yagnyavalkya wrote: |
It is said that Nos gave a slip of paper to one of close friends and asked him not to open it even after his death
After his death the friend got curious and a few months after the death the friend opened it
and guess what he saw on the slip of the paper
the exact date on which the friend opened it ! |
Assume the friend opened it about 4 months after. Thats about 120 days. Nostradamus could have just written 'over 100 days will pass until bla bla you open it etc...' and I highly doubt that he had the EXACT date.
Nostradamus had basically everyone fooled and licking his boots, so any garbage he said would be pure and great to his followers. | Soulfire wrote: |
The problem with Nostradamus is that predictions are made so ambiguous that one of two things happens.
Post-diction. Follows of Nostradamus use one of his quantains (i believe that's what they're called) and apply it to events that have already occured.
Wording is so unclear that his writings can apply to many things.
Of course, there are always those who will follow him. I'm just not sure, I suppose a healthy dose of skeptisism is good. |
I was watching a show on Discovery Channel and it showed there that Nos made a huge number of 'predictions' and that too in a very vague manner. Many of his predictions didn't come true in any way and some vaguely resembled a few important events. This in no way can prove that he predicted them correctly but Nos supporters can always say that he meant something!!!ru, stuffce wrote:
liljp617 wrote:
AnalogPlayers wrote:
Exactly. All Nostradamus did was make extremely ambiguous statements. Now, hundreds of years later, we try to apply every little thing he said to something that has priorly happened. It's all a crock.
Like the Bible.
Like many documents of dubious origin written a long time ago. Still, even the Bible has bits of truth in it, whereas Nostrodamus' drivel sounds consistently gibberish.
His have come true (in the same sense that the Bible has held true fortunes) before. There's really not much difference...the Bible seems even more far fetched in my opinion.
tehre is not sufficient proof to suggest that nostradamus was nothing more than a hoax. yes, he made probobly thousands of predictions, but people just pick and choose out of the hundreds of wrong or totally vague ones and claim he has "magical powers."
I heard a lot about Nostradamus, and I admit that he is a really strange character. He predicted nearly EVERYTHING that is supposed to happen to us and our future. I really would like to know how things turn out in the end and see if all of his predictions were correct. Supposedly he predicted that Hilary Clinton is going to be the first female president. I would really like to see how that is going to turn out. I just really think that the entire thing is so awesome. I wonder how he had that kind of preception on things?
I really don't understand how I can write a book today about something totally made up and bizarre yet we take every piece of literature from the past and say we can learn so much from it. I guess the question is when was fiction created? With that aside, Nostradamus was a great man. You don't make it through history otherwise. I believe there is some truth to his predictions, but they weren't made for us to use before the events otherwise that would change the course of events. Why couldn't the man have wrote them down just to satisfy his own mind?
