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I HEARD THE TREES!!!

 


Lobo23
I heard them, I really, really did! >_<;
Okay, now I bet you're thinking the same thing most of my friends on aim were when I realized, finally, what the metaphor analogy thing meant. You're thinking I'm crazy.
<Suicidal Tendencies Institutionalized lyrics>
"What are you trying to say, I'm crazy?
When I went to your schools, I went to your churches,
I went to your institutional learning facilities?! So how can you say I'm crazy.

They say they're gonna fix my brain
Alleviate my suffering and my pain
But by the time they fix my head
Mentally I'll be dead

I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized

They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself

It doesn't matter I'll probably get hit by a car anyway.

</lyrics>



Okay, now to the point, and beginning of this thread.


"If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" That quote practically defines all of reality. For all this time I was taking the skeptic viewpoint and disbelieving anyone claiming to hear the trees, I never went to listen for myself because of disbelief. Sam made me that way, no longer able to trust myself when I thought I heard the trees myself.

If the tree falls and those around to hear it aren't credible does it make a sound? No. According to most skeptic opinions, no. There's nothing saying the tree even fell.

If a tree falls and those around to hear it are credible, does it make a sound? Maybe. According to skeptic opinon, those who are knowledgable in the sound of tree falling would know if a tree fell, but no ordinary person could say so. The person could also be lying.

If a tree fell in the forest and you yourself heard it, did it make a sound? Only you know, few people other than your closest friends will believe you.

If a tree fell in the forst and no one was around to hear it, does it make a sound? Evidence and signs of previous tree fallings point to "yes".

I'm pretty sure every person in the occult has had the problem of trying to prove that the tree fell, well stop. The fact is the tree fell and you were the only one to hear it, rejoice in the fact you were lucky enough to hear it. I'm done proving anything to anyone, what does my reality matter to anyone but myself unless I'm interacting with someone else's reality directly?

It took me four months or so to understand the quote I made in my first lobo's lesson thing. "Reason is behind drive, which is behind power, and power is in front of your will, and your will is behind logic, and reason is in front of (being driven by) logic. " The thing that confused me most was the thought nagging in the back of my head saying they're not related, because they're not really, they're all separate things... The other day I realized what it meant, I was luckily alone when I exclaimed "That's it! They're all of the same essence!". icon_sweatdrop.gif (Maybe I spend too much time in personal thought?)
When I first wrote that quote down on paper I was thinking of the tree falling quote and realized it's not nearly as simple as it sounds, it is about reality, I thought I understood it then, but I didn't. So yesterday I was talking to my nice friend Tormented Panda on AIM and I was talking about my lessons and confusing quote I came up with. Then it hit me, Yagi was right by questioning my sanity when I was speaking in angelic and she said it was equivalent to an otakukin, she didn't hear the trees. icon_stressed.gif From that point on, until last night I thought I was completely insane, I was entirely convinced I was insane, completely thouroughly insane.
Now I'm not going to sit in the feedle position sucking my thumb in a dark corner, I'm going to sit on the stump from the last tree falling and see if I can listen for another one.

I think my tendency to take metaphors so literal and think them over so much is why people say the songs I write aren't bad. xD

Oh, and skip that going in the forest... that's too far away. For now I'm going to play Donkey Kong Country on the SNES, 'til I'm bored, then I might think about doing it while enjoying a lipton tea bottle. Very Happy
moworks2
Lobo23 wrote:
I heard them, I really, really did! >_<;
Okay, now I bet you're thinking the same thing most of my friends on aim were when I realized, finally, what the metaphor analogy thing meant. You're thinking I'm crazy.
<Suicidal Tendencies Institutionalized lyrics>
"What are you trying to say, I'm crazy?
When I went to your schools, I went to your churches,
I went to your institutional learning facilities?! So how can you say I'm crazy.

They say they're gonna fix my brain
Alleviate my suffering and my pain
But by the time they fix my head
Mentally I'll be dead

I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized

They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself

It doesn't matter I'll probably get hit by a car anyway.

</lyrics>



Okay, now to the point, and beginning of this thread.


"If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" That quote practically defines all of reality. For all this time I was taking the skeptic viewpoint and disbelieving anyone claiming to hear the trees, I never went to listen for myself because of disbelief. Sam made me that way, no longer able to trust myself when I thought I heard the trees myself.

If the tree falls and those around to hear it aren't credible does it make a sound? No. According to most skeptic opinions, no. There's nothing saying the tree even fell.

If a tree falls and those around to hear it are credible, does it make a sound? Maybe. According to skeptic opinon, those who are knowledgable in the sound of tree falling would know if a tree fell, but no ordinary person could say so. The person could also be lying.

If a tree fell in the forest and you yourself heard it, did it make a sound? Only you know, few people other than your closest friends will believe you.

If a tree fell in the forst and no one was around to hear it, does it make a sound? Evidence and signs of previous tree fallings point to "yes".

I'm pretty sure every person in the occult has had the problem of trying to prove that the tree fell, well stop. The fact is the tree fell and you were the only one to hear it, rejoice in the fact you were lucky enough to hear it. I'm done proving anything to anyone, what does my reality matter to anyone but myself unless I'm interacting with someone else's reality directly?

It took me four months or so to understand the quote I made in my first lobo's lesson thing. "Reason is behind drive, which is behind power, and power is in front of your will, and your will is behind logic, and reason is in front of (being driven by) logic. " The thing that confused me most was the thought nagging in the back of my head saying they're not related, because they're not really, they're all separate things... The other day I realized what it meant, I was luckily alone when I exclaimed "That's it! They're all of the same essence!". icon_sweatdrop.gif (Maybe I spend too much time in personal thought?)
When I first wrote that quote down on paper I was thinking of the tree falling quote and realized it's not nearly as simple as it sounds, it is about reality, I thought I understood it then, but I didn't. So yesterday I was talking to my nice friend Tormented Panda on AIM and I was talking about my lessons and confusing quote I came up with. Then it hit me, Yagi was right by questioning my sanity when I was speaking in angelic and she said it was equivalent to an otakukin, she didn't hear the trees. icon_stressed.gif From that point on, until last night I thought I was completely insane, I was entirely convinced I was insane, completely thouroughly insane.
Now I'm not going to sit in the feedle position sucking my thumb in a dark corner, I'm going to sit on the stump from the last tree falling and see if I can listen for another one.

I think my tendency to take metaphors so literal and think them over so much is why people say the songs I write aren't bad. xD

Oh, and skip that going in the forest... that's too far away. For now I'm going to play Donkey Kong Country on the SNES, 'til I'm bored, then I might think about doing it while enjoying a lipton tea bottle. Very Happy


boy oh boy, that was refreshingly confusing...thanks for the little journey down the yellow brick road...and i'm glad you didn't mention anything about the sound of one hand clapping...

yours truly,

fatigued
bokaier
Too... much... text. People can't read on the internet, so this argument has to wait. Private message me when they start sliding pc display film over our eyes. I'll be happy to comment, cyborg to cyborg.
Lobo23
I'm guessing few people understood my "TXT WLA L FO DETHA!!!"

Sorry if it is a bit confusing. :animesweatdrop:
missdixy
It just seems like you're all over the place.
Hmmm. Shocked
Ankhanu
I dunno, seems pretty simple to follow to me, yeah, he's here and there, but the point is pretty clear; it doesn't matter what others believe, your belief is your own. Basically he's saying reality (or perception thereof) is subjective and based on personal experience and trying to prove or disprove your experience of reality to another is an exercise in futility as they can only identify with the perceived elements you share. Everyone's standpoint is unique, so we can either accept our own realities as they are, and accept that others won't directly mirror our own, or we can waste our lives trying to convince other people that their frame of reference is wrong because it doesn't match our own.

ie. live and let live.

Am I off base in my interpretation? Possibly Wink
moworks2
Ankhanu wrote:
I dunno, seems pretty simple to follow to me, yeah, he's here and there, but the point is pretty clear; it doesn't matter what others believe, your belief is your own. Basically he's saying reality (or perception thereof) is subjective and based on personal experience and trying to prove or disprove your experience of reality to another is an exercise in futility as they can only identify with the perceived elements you share. Everyone's standpoint is unique, so we can either accept our own realities as they are, and accept that others won't directly mirror our own, or we can waste our lives trying to convince other people that their frame of reference is wrong because it doesn't match our own.

ie. live and let live.

Am I off base in my interpretation? Possibly Wink


your interpretation sounds good...i wonder if lobo agrees?

lots of words to define here...reality is a big one,...and if it is different for everyone and so can be manipulated does it have any value? is illusion part of reality? are the ravings of a mentally disturbed person reality?

perhaps, and i'm just throwing this out there, perhaps there is a difference between reality and truth...i'm feeling lobo might be able to replace the word reality with truth, but that's a question only he/she can answer...i'd say the truth is something that could not be seen differently by everyone or it isn't the truth...

"Reason is behind drive, which is behind power, and power is in front of your will, and your will is behind logic, and reason is in front of (being driven by) logic. "

I think this is fairly confusing, lobo, but if it makes sense to you, cool...

"Yagi was right by questioning my sanity when I was speaking in angelic"...

I'm curious, what is 'speaking in angelic?...

there you have it...i'm done for this sunday night in france...it's been a long weekend...

kind regards...

M
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