I am still learning but I do have webdesign site where I cant figure out why in Firefox it looks completely fine and in Internet explorer the style sheet looks pushed to the right a little bit ( click on links...see layout seems pushed to right )- If I can get some constructive critism on how to fix this that would be appreciated - www.tahoestyle.com
I know I'm probably over looking the issue but I cant figure it out -
thanks for your help Ya, Im not gonna worry about it much in IE6 - downloaded IE7, looks fine, firefox looks fine, Opera looks fine...
Sometimes people have a different stylesheet on their site just for IE, I think it's a code something like <If IE
I'm not sure, but I test my site out in IE and Firefox... I hate how there is just little tiny differences, but there isn't much you can do! IE is just stupid 
| tahoestyle wrote: |
I am still learning but I do have webdesign site where I cant figure out why in Firefox it looks completely fine and in Internet explorer the style sheet looks pushed to the right a little bit ( click on links...see layout seems pushed to right )- If I can get some constructive critism on how to fix this that would be appreciated - www.tahoestyle.com
I know I'm probably over looking the issue but I cant figure it out -
thanks for your help |
The most common reason for everything being pushed to the right slightly in IE is the box model issue.
In a standard compliant browser like firefox, if you add padding, margin and border to a box, it adds the values to the specified width, whereas in a non-standards compliant browser (IE6) it deducts the padding and border from the specified width.Please, try the newest Opera distrubution!
So handy! A lovely simple functions, safe, and very fast, nice look, etc.!
^^
The difference between browser will be a problem for ever... Not only for simple html, but either for xslt. It is really a big obstruction for easy design. I try always to look for a command that is usable for each browsers. Sometimes you will have to change your first idea, but it is the easiest way to make the design compatible for everyone...
Greetz
IE6 should still be a worry as a lot of people are still using it and MS is sure as hell not going to backport anything to it whilst hell is warm.
Don't worry, in IE nothing looks good, if you want a good browser take Firefox.
Everybody using IE will agree with me, graphics in IE are very very bat.
Just don't worry and go one with firefox
I do not use both of them. I think Tencent Traveler is best. However, Tencent Traveler has Chinese Version only. Perhaps not many people know about it. 
The best thing about firefox are the coool extensions (plugins/add-ons what ever you would like to call them).
I have the following:
del.icio.us - This one stores all my bookmarks on the website and displays them instead of the links toolbar. It is the best! Now I have the same set of bookmarks across 4 machines!
Email This! bookmarklet extension - you can email a page using gmail/yahoo/hotmail/outlook using this one.
IE Tab - my office is a microsoft shop... so when I need this.
No squint - Ever had this annoying problem of small fonts on a high resolution monitor? This fixes it for good (well, mostly). It remembers the zoom level for each website domain!
adblock - I think you have all heard about this now... Funny that I have it (click sig for a clue!) 
Some more good Firefox extensions
Web Developer Toolbar - essential for web developers. Gives you many tools such as inline editin gof html and css, disable/enable images, javascript etc, resize the window, validate pages.
Firebug - another web developer essential. Great for inline editing and checking of scripts.
Speed Dial - works the same way as Opera's new tab. Click the icon and you are presented with 9 real time thumbnails of sites you wish. You can even scroll the thumbnails.
DownThemAll - in my opinion the best download manager for FIrefox.
YAWN this is not a firefox vs. IE thread. This is a thread asking about website compatability. It's in the technical forum about webdesign. Kindly save your evangelicism for the software forum.#
Back on topic, although the graphics do look bad, you should at least ensure your website is usable in IE6.
looks fine in IE 7 and FF , nice design by the way
ie 6 is a terror, and i try to aoid it 
I know the "getting everything to look right" in IE and in Firefox can be an absolute pain (believe it, or not, I have come across the rare few things which IE handles better).
One trick that often helps is to make sure that the browsers are coping with your page in 'strict mode' rather than 'quirks mode'. Basically this means that you have to make sure the headers of your html file are really well defined.
| cybernytrix wrote: |
The best thing about firefox are the coool extensions (plugins/add-ons what ever you would like to call them).
I have the following:
del.icio.us - This one stores all my bookmarks on the website and displays them instead of the links toolbar. It is the best! Now I have the same set of bookmarks across 4 machines!
Email This! bookmarklet extension - you can email a page using gmail/yahoo/hotmail/outlook using this one.
IE Tab - my office is a microsoft shop... so when I need this.
No squint - Ever had this annoying problem of small fonts on a high resolution monitor? This fixes it for good (well, mostly). It remembers the zoom level for each website domain!
adblock - I think you have all heard about this now... Funny that I have it (click sig for a clue!) |
for me firefox is very well beacause is simple for navigation and function tabs, but IE have integrated all plug-ins and firefox don't have plug-ins when you install this programi think i will go for firefox, Internet Explorer was already outrun but still 85 percent of the internet users uses internet explorer how lame.
Firefox is a standart compliant browser and IE not. Things looks like they must look in FF as they look different in IE because it doesn't respect the W3C Specification.
Just like if you code a page using Frontpage, there is always a lot of ununsefull tags and Microsoft specific tags and the page looks fine only in IE.
But of course we can't neglect IE because it is still the most used browser 
Put a warning for IE users telling them the site can look different on their computer and they should download firefox I always make sure my pages look as close to identical as possible in both IE, and FF. Still, I put a small snippet in my footers that says:
this site best displayed in Firefox 2. With a link to the download page.
Anything more obtrusive would drive viewers away. Even firefox users would get tired of a big flaming fox in the middle of the news article about overclocking two graphics cards while using ATI Crossfire Technology...
Most people have tolerance for small imperfections because they come for the content. Designers will always be more critical than regular viewers. Stop freakin | Quote: |
| Firefox is a standart compliant browser and IE not. |
That is a crock of shit. Try the acid2 browser test on Firefox (any version up to 3 and possibly even that).
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| Put a warning for IE users telling them the site can look different on their computer and they should download firefox |
Or you, as the web developer, could accept that people are free to use whatever browser they like, make sure your site at least works in all browsers, and then maybe having a notice saying which browser the site was coded for. Also, why the IE-bashing? The site will look different in netscape, links, on a PDA, on a mobile phone, via telnet to port 80. Are you going to tell all those users the site will look different?
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| this site best displayed in Firefox 2. With a link to the download page. |
Excellent. And well-said.
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| but IE have integrated all plug-ins |
Hur hur. No. Flash, java etc. still have to be installed and IE has no official extensions such as Firefox's (e.g. e-mail, weather, user scripts, download managers, etc.)
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| One trick that often helps is to make sure that the browsers are coping with your page in 'strict mode' rather than 'quirks mode'. Basically this means that you have to make sure the headers of your html file are really well defined. |
Always good advice. There's really no excuse for having a non-standards compliant page other than you had to add small things to ensure cross-browser compatability.Yea, IE often acts stupid and sometimes if one little coding problem is flawed firefox will ignore it, but IE is picky and it will mess up the layout. Best thing to do is just check it in both. There are some sites out there that you submit your url to them and a half hour later they send you pics of what it looks like on different browsers. Once my site had a huge gap between the two banners, but in firefox it looked fine.
this is the way i do it
first create two different index files one called indexie.html (for ie) and one called indexff.html (for firefox) and then two different css files styleie.css and styleff.css
once you have done that, code one layout for ie and one for firefox
then when you have done that
create a index.html file
in that file place this code:
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<script>
var browser_type=navigator.appName
var browser_version=parseInt(navigator.appVersion)
//if NS 6
if (browser_type=="Netscape"&&browser_version>=5)
window.location.replace("indexff.html")
//if IE 4+
else if (browser_type=="Microsoft Internet Explorer"&&browser_version>=4)
window.location.replace("indexie.html")
//if NS4+
else if (browser_type=="Netscape"&&browser_version>=4)
window.location.replace("indexie.html")
//Default goto page (NOT NS 4+ and NOT IE 4+)
else
window.location="http://www.dynamicdrive.com"
</script> |
you are now done
when someone goes to your site, that javacode will determine what internet browser you are using and will send your visitor to the write index file (ff or ie)
i know its not the best way of doing it as simply coding the page corectly would work but if you want to save time this is what i have done in the past to make sure my visters can use the site | Quote: |
| when someone goes to your site, that javacode will determine what internet browser you are using and will send your visitor to the write index file (ff or ie) |
Good thing those are the only 2 browsers ever invented then, hey?most of the time it's no problem if you know how to code.. margins can bug in IE vs FF.. so? learn to get around it!
| tahoestyle wrote: |
| Ya, Im not gonna worry about it much in IE6 - downloaded IE7, looks fine, firefox looks fine, Opera looks fine... |
word. I so hate IE6. I probably wont even try to make my css compatible with IE6, cause it sucks so bad. IE7 is quite good, but still some differences in comparison to firefox and opera. | tahoestyle wrote: |
I am still learning but I do have webdesign site where I cant figure out why in Firefox it looks completely fine and in Internet explorer the style sheet looks pushed to the right a little bit ( click on links...see layout seems pushed to right )- If I can get some constructive critism on how to fix this that would be appreciated - www.tahoestyle.com
I know I'm probably over looking the issue but I cant figure it out -
thanks for your help |
If you you are in the middle of learning in web design. It's good practice if you browse check it with the at least the most popular 3 browsers. Although most designers really hates IE6 and even IE7 because of the css features but we don't have nothing to do with it coz almost 60% use browsers are IE's so we have nothing to do but to consider it.
But if you start to layout on TABLE base din it's not a very big deal coz it's easy for you now to handle the designs. but if you your DIV base layout din you have atleast a better in CSS because it's not easy to handle the div. Especially if you are not usually used it.In fact.. none is the better browser..
In IE certain stylesheets don't work
in FF Javascript is completely a Mess!
And I'm sure Opera has a prob like this too.. :S
I like more wirking with FF, however certain sites I have to view with IE7, otherwise my scripts won't always work..
~Gushe
I use FF, just because i'm happy with it... I like it more than IE.
| AOP Web Development wrote: |
| But if you start to layout on TABLE base din it's not a very big deal coz it's easy for you now to handle the designs. but if you your DIV base layout din you have atleast a better in CSS because it's not easy to handle the div. Especially if you are not usually used it. |
Well you should never use a table-based design... that's simply bad bad bad 
. Tables are not meant for making all you pictures line up nicely in the right spot, tables were meant so displaying tabular data. Use DIVs (and other semantically appropriate tags) is a much better way to do it. You have to use CSS anyway, to define the styles of the page - why not do it properly without tables? | Quote: |
| I use FF, just because i'm happy with it... I like it more than IE. |
...relevant how?
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| I like more wirking with FF, however certain sites I have to view with IE7, otherwise my scripts won't always work.. |
If you need to switch browsers to make your scripts work it probably says more about you as a coder than it does about the browsers. Try not using proprietary MS extensioons to JS and then see how well it works in Gecko.If you want to work with css, i think you would best use Mozilla Firefox to check out your pages.
Just not Internet Explorer.
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Good thing those are the only 2 browsers ever invented then, hey? |
No but generally if you code for ie that code will work for netscape and if you code for firefox the code will work in safari
can you think of any other commonly used browers???
i dunno but it was only a solution and yeah just code it right in the frist places???
