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new sky scraper planned to be larger than mount fuji





orion_crown1
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At 13,123 feet high, the massive, mountain-shaped building envisioned by Japan's Taisei Construction Company would overshadow Mount Fuji itself by nearly 700 feet. That's the equivalent of NINE Empire State Buildings stood one upon the other! The building, known as the X-Seed 4000, is designed to house up to one million residents on as many as 800 floors! Designers have had to consider tricky questions of temperature and pressure differentials between the base and topmost floors, and are looking to utilize solar power to solve these and other critical issues. The cost, you ask? Somewhere between $300 and $900 billion... what's that, an Iraq War or two? Couple of manned Mars missions? Quite do-able - if you're Japan, one of the world's richest countries.One might think the Japanese government would never allow the placing of an edifice the size of the X-Seed 4000 anywhere near sacred Mount Fuji, but Taisei's plans call for the monumental mini-city to rise relatively close by, rising up upon huge caissons sunk deep into the mire underlying Tokyo Bay.

Could it happen? Well, skeptical citizens of Florence, Italy, scoffed at Leonardo da Vinci's detailed drawings of helicopters and other flying machines. Yet da Vinci's dreams did take flight, centuries later. I wouldn't rush to put down a deposit on a unit just yet, but Taisei's outrageous X-Seed 4000 proposal has the same potential to fly high.


full article

http://inventorspot.com/articles/worlds_tallest_building_be_talle_6398


Kamo
Jeesus this is huuuuuuuugee.

Why the hell people always try to build bigger longer things when they don't need it. As i'm afraid of hights it would be really hard for me to even look at this thing. At lest i'm not worried about the shape as it's pretty safe like this i guess.
hack_man_
I saw something about this on Discovery Science... Some cheesy TV show that rambles on about "construction marvels" that are being proposed. Like a bridge across the Pacific, a floating tunnel under the Atlantic, a global super-highway, and this... The way the narrator went on about it just made it sound more and more impossible. "Robotic Spider-like workstations would construct the entire facility with little human intervention" "everybody would be able to walk to work or play, or take a supersonic train or elevator"

Waaaaay to idealistic to possibly be real...
Hunterseaker
Wow, thats a huge building!
I think when this thing is build, it will be included in the main made marvels list.
Tho the construction will take years, I think it will take at least 15 years to complete this project. All kind of new technical solutions has to be invented 1st.
Tho when it is build it will be great.
You can never miss it....
tidruG
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Waaaaay to idealistic to possibly be real...

I disagree. There were lots of things which are a reality now which were too idealistic to be possible at one point of time.

However, orion_crown1, I would take this with a bit of scepticism. I recently read either a forwarded mail or a website talking about a huge temple to be built in Indis which was to have a total floor area of over 10 times that of the Empire State Building, and it would supposed to be about 1.5 times taller than the current tallest building in the world (I don't remember which one that is)
Yjaxygames
tidruG wrote:
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Waaaaay to idealistic to possibly be real...

I disagree. There were lots of things which are a reality now which were too idealistic to be possible at one point of time.

However, orion_crown1, I would take this with a bit of scepticism. I recently read either a forwarded mail or a website talking about a huge temple to be built in Indis which was to have a total floor area of over 10 times that of the Empire State Building, and it would supposed to be about 1.5 times taller than the current tallest building in the world (I don't remember which one that is)


The tallest building now in use is the Taipei 101 in Taiwan:


But there is another building, in Dubai, that is still under construction and is higher than the Taipei 101. It's called the Burj Dubai. It's now higher but they're still constructing it and the final height is classified...


But sorry for going off topic.
I think that building could be constructed, but it's really expensive so it would be hard to get enough investments in it I think.
orion_crown1
yes i know it might never happen. they can build it it's just whether or not they get a paper signed allowing them to do it.
nilsmo
The height of 13,123 feet is about ten times the height of today's super-tall buildings. The Taipei 101 (tallest building ever, built recently) is only a few percentage points taller than the Empire State Building (1,474 ft vs. 1,250 ft), which was built a while ago - 1934. The "first skyscraper", a ten story building, was completed 1885. Considering the last two dates and how the Empire State Building's height is about the same as the Taipei 101, the height of skyscrapers isn't going up much. The reason for this is COST.

If cost were to go up linearly (twice the height = twice the cost) then nations competing for the highest buildings would definitely build buildings many times higher than what was built so long ago because now the world and the US has many more times more money. Well, the cost increase based on height is nowhere near linear. Stability, wind, support are factors that make cost increase much more and usability go down when buildings get high (materials are only so strong). If we had unlimited resources, we could make a building of almost infinite height, like Taisei's proposal. But thinking about that proposal realistically is ludicrous because nobody has that money! I have no idea what the cost would be, but even if half of Japan's economy was put into that project I estimate that those resources would be far from what is really needed.

I have looked into the issue of cost and found a web page saying this ( http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/?p=24 )

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Because it has already been fully designed using materials available today, the structure could, in principle, be built, although it would likely cost several hundred billion dollars, if not more.


By the way, the GDP of Japan is the second largest in the world at about 4 and a half trillion dollars.

The expectation that the Burj Dubai may become 2000ft really amazes me, too. The cost must be horrendous, and the usability low.
[FuN]goku
OMG ! that things huge on the top right image, is that meant to be glass? better watch out for hooligans XD
tidruG
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it's just whether or not they get a paper signed allowing them to do it.

You also need to take into account whether someone is willing to invest in it, and also whether it would serve any practical purpose to have buildings that big.
hack_man_
Yjaxygames wrote:
But there is another building, in Dubai, that is still under construction and is higher than the Taipei 101. It's called the Burj Dubai. It's now higher but they're still constructing it and the final height is classified...

hehe, I live there. It completely dwarfs everything else in Dubai, by a long shot. Here is a perfect example of the logistics of something huge...

It would be nearing exterior completion by now, leaving only the interiors to be done, and the rest of the complex, had the exterior cladding company not backed out... So instead of being past 60% of the progress, they are only 30% because of a tiny detail.
evilryu530
thats crazy.....i like the idea of japan doing that, it will help with their population growth...thats so crazy, i cant even imagine how dense their country is. here in the usa we have soooooo much land, it's crazy, there are a bunch of states that have so much land open it's rediculous! i guess we dont' really need to build a giant mountain like that to live on.....only in dense places there are skyscrapers, like LA, NY...
Davidgr1200
Don't they have buildings like that in Sim City 2000? I think they call them Arcologies.
Kaisonic
Great, just ANOTHER big building for terrorists to crash planes into.

...too soon?
Saysior
Well, the unique thing about that, from what I see, is just how wide it is. You definitely couldn't knock that down with a couple or even a fleet of planes. Besides, 9/11 will not happen again, at least not with planes. The people on the planes did not swarm over the hijackers because they had no idea of what was planned for them. If someone were to attempt to hijack a plane now, they would get ripped apart before they even opened their mouth.

I think that's pretty incredible, although I too am skeptical of whether a thing like that could ever be pulled off. It doesn't matter how rich you are, $900 billion is a hell of a lot of money.
Yjaxygames
The architects also have much problems to face. The higher the building, the more restrictions. The bottom has to be wider to support the top, and the top has to deal with the wind, and the material has to be right...And with these projects, that are never done before, you can't base your building upon something else.
The Taipei 101 is based upon bamboo. Just watch a picture of it. They did that on purpose, according to Discovery Channel.
exarkun
well in the near future we will be living among the clouds I guess. And of course, wearing a breathing apparatus. Who will be able to live in a condition that has only a thin layer of oxygen?
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