I am with the Lumberjack!! Those who still support the war are bigots and racist in my opinion. You will find the vast majority of educated people in direct opposition to this unjust war (over 60% of all Americans are against the cluster-F$@% that we're paying for in the middle-east). I would really like a refund for the portion of my taxes that were invested in this over the last 6 years... now costing us over $2 billion every week!!
The house of cards will fall very soon -- September will be General Patreas's (sp) report, and there will be MASSIVE protests in D.C. as well as an increase in the bloodshed for that week (Al Qaeda knows that the report is going to make the decision for us). Regardless of what Patreas says, Bush and Cheney will say that this is very important to continue now, and that progress is being made, blah blah blah..... Bush and Cheney will get what they deserve - if not a war crimes trial, or impeachment, they will have this guilt for the remainder of their days.
Bush and his circle of friends started the debacle in Iraq over a bunch of lies (virtually everybody agrees that WMD, and Al Qaeda connection were lies) all tenuously justified based on September 11. Now, we couldn't have gone to war on September 10th, right? We were all lied to at every turn and I am tired of it.
Simply enumerating the wars that we've started for non-security reasons is a moot point here since this war was not for national security -- rather "insecurity" or "low self-esteem" or "drunken violence". Also, you are mistaken if you believe that it was for our national security -- it is for world-domination. Read about the PNAC (Project for a New American Century) to see what Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld really thought America should do to become the world's sole super-power. Since the cold war was over, the plan was world domination... If we were a peaceful nation, it may actually be good if we dominated (or united) the world, but the truth is that most of the world now views us as we are - evil sons of bitches... that's a fact Jack.
We started this Iraq debacle, and we should look for the best way to end it --- the BEST way to end it is NOT with hundreds of thousands more guns and ammo, my friend. The best way probably involves employing large numbers of relief workers and promoting the benevolent Islamic leaders as much as we can ... pushing western ways on them will not work. Did the Native Americans understand European laws? Bush get's his orders from God. We all know that Bush is a Jesus freak. Also, I call him the largest terrorist recruiter - and not very christian by all measures. How christ-like is it to initiate a war that has killed over 1,000,000?? Iraq was less bloody under Saddam's rule --- our presence there has pretty much tripled the violence.
I can't believe that there are still those cowards (those who are motivated primarily by fear) out there that think that we need to kill more. That is so backward and uncivilized. If we stopped fighting them over there -- and some day in the future, we're attacked (again) on our homeland - we shouldn't fight back... nobody has ever convinced me that they would keep killing us at an increased rate. I would think that with every attack, they would lose their own public support. Their religion is complex, but I don't think that it has anything in it to justify continued "revenge" attacks.
I personally can't wait for the second coming -- if it really means that all Christians will disappear. The rich marble and gold on the catholic altar make me sick --- I don't need to see how much money they have and God certainly doesn't need to have worldly riches devoted to his worship. Religious dolts that support killing are two-faced liars; think about this the next time you're making your confessions. Oh -- one more thing... what did Jesus say "love your neighbors" and "turn the other cheek".
War does not determine who is right, only who is left. Peace out.
So, did I conclude correctly that you are a bigot? Are you stubbornly in opposition to any belief that is not your own? How about a racist? Do you think that you are supreme or that you have some special god-given right that allows you to determine others' fates?
Persians did not start this war -- America did.
9/11 was a possible "False flag" operation that we either knew was going to happen, or we helped it happen. This was all to justify a huge war operation that would guarantee that we remain the world's sole super-power through the next 100 years. For historical evidence that we'd even consider killing our own people to justify a war, look up "Operation Northwoods" for info on how we planned to justify preemptive airstrikes on Cuba.
I believe that we're all equal. Even the white-trash Nascar types who all drunkenly say things like "get 'r done". They are entitled to their beliefs and all I can do is engage them in conversation... I can't exactly start a war with them, right? You probably believe that progress is being made - taking signs like the number of applicants for the Iraqi security forces as a great sign, rather than what it really is --- there are virtually no paying jobs in Iraq, so they have to "pay the mortgage" so to speak.
You are wrong when you call the Persians into this fray. Furthermore, they are not the catalyst -- Persians == Iran, not Iraq. Wow, you really lump together the various Arabs. It is like calling the pope a Methodist. Do not forget that this was a war of choice -- based on American lies and twisted intelligence -- all because Bush thought that Iraq was bad.
<sarcasm>Sure. I remember when Bush said that we needed to go to war in Iraq because the Persians are wanting to resume fighting the other Arabs in the area.</sarcasm> Idiot pResident. This all happened because we disbanded the Iraq army. That was a huge mistake - you should research a little bit about how we disbanded their army.
Why is everyone blaming Bush for Clinton's mistake? After all, we could've ended everything ... but no, we chose not to.
Bush is cleaning up, doing the dirty work that none of the world wants to do - yet they want to reap the benefits. I'm sick of war, yes, and I want us to leave as soon as possible, but as it has been stated, I do not want to leave defeated.