I can't help but wonder if any/many of you have jobs in the science/technology
industries? If so...whadda you do? 
and if not, what inspires your interest in science?
my work is not related to science (I'm only 23, and in fact looking for a job....
I have an interview today at an adult film store hahaha...and one at the mall....
yes...I know...I'm pathetic) but I've always enjoyed scientific things - in school
and out. A love of alien related propaganda and other sci/fi things got me started...
then I found a quantum physics book...and then I read every thing related I
could get my hands on....and and...I like science.
I'm also very into my 'spiritualism' though
( I say spiritualism not religion because I
beleive it is an individual thing ) and I've also
been wondering how many of you do have some
form of 'spiritual' beleif that coincides or compliments
your scientifical beleifs......?
I know many of you are probably athiests and I completely respect and understand
that as well....for those of you who are please feel free to comment on why you don't
feel you can be a 'spiritual' and 'scientifical' person?
I'm not into sciences yet, but I expect to study chemistry further on in my cursus. My first interest for sciences comes from my high school biology classes (I had probably one of the best teachers ever) and then from the following classes and activities, including science fairs which have lead me quite far. This year, I've been chosen to represent Canada in an international competition in Stockholm, Sweden... So I'm not a pro, but I consider myself quite hooked 
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As for the spirituality or religion thing, call it however you like... I have some beliefs myself (as a non-praticant catholic), but I rather tend to adopt a scientific point of view on life before anything else. This is the best way we have found yet to explain things that our brain is not able to consider on its own (eternity, infinity, nothingness, origin of our universe, chaos, etc.) But regarding the whole thing about religious fanatism and the acts that are commited in the name of the "well-thinking" zealots, I think religion should have less power in our society, progressively coming at a more balanced state between spirituality and science (which has not been the case for previous ages). Knowledge is the best way to avoid radicalism. | KronikSindrome wrote: |
I can't help but wonder if any/many of you have jobs in the science/technology
industries? If so...whadda you do? and if not, what inspires your interest in science?
my work is not related to science (I'm only 23, and in fact looking for a job....
I have an interview today at an adult film store hahaha...and one at the mall....
yes...I know...I'm pathetic) but I've always enjoyed scientific things - in school
and out. A love of alien related propaganda and other sci/fi things got me started...
then I found a quantum physics book...and then I read every thing related I
could get my hands on....and and...I like science.
I'm also very into my 'spiritualism' though
( I say spiritualism not religion because I
beleive it is an individual thing ) and I've also
been wondering how many of you do have some
form of 'spiritual' beleif that coincides or compliments
your scientifical beleifs......?
|
I'm an atheist, as you might suspect. I have no core set of spiritual beliefs, being a pretty materialist person. I do have an ethical code of my own which tells me how I should behave and what is 'right' and 'wrong' for me. It is, though, based in philosophy and personal experience rather than being a received coda or set of instructions, and it is not a rigid or absolute system since I find no logical support for such a belief system and no personal need to adopt such...
That does not, however, mean the same as being 'non-spiritual'. Spirituality is, to me, a sense of wonder, awe, uncertainty, amazement - at what we find around us - rather than a specific dogmatic belief system or religious faith. I certainly have the former, though not the latter.
My spirituality is informed by my materialistic world-view, for sure. I don't accept any paranormal or magical entities in my world-view (again, that is not the same as saying I don't accept anything which can't be explained scientifically), but the universe simply doesn't need such things in order to overcome one with wonder.
In fact such beliefs have always struck me as rather cheapening the wonder around us by starting from the assumption that it is planned, controlled and, the work of some higher being. That strikes me as a cop-out since it tells us nothing, solves no problems and diminishes the fabulous nature of reality by constraining it to a particular credo or doctrine which is a product of times past and, to me, seems engaged in a constant and ultimately self-defeating struggle to adapt to new experiences and knowledge, and a constant battle to be seen as relevant in the modern world.
The universe is magnificent and awe inspiring and fabulous - I don't want to attribute it to some iconic entity with a beard, or some other notion of a divine being, which is always based on ourselves to some degree and therefore, to me, is daft in its anthropomorphism, because we have learned just how tiny we are and how big the universe is.
It may be reassuring to believe there is a plan, an afterlife and some system which rights wrongs, justifies injustice and ensures the triumph of good over evil - I can see a basic attraction in such a view. Ultimately, though, it is the dream of a child who still thinks his world is the house in which he lives and still believes that the world is ordered largely for his convenience and benefit. I think it is time that we grew out of that phase and stopped trying to hide under the blankets when it goes dark....my job is science related - i work as a Lab Technician at a Dairy - testing Milk, Yoghurts Custard etc for Chemical Composition and Microbiological contaminents...It is not the most exciting job in the world and is kinda repetative, but the money is good ..My last job was much more interesting but the money was not nearly as good, i was an Analytical Chemist for a packaging company...My degree is Bachelor of Applied Science majoring in Environmental SCience and Minoring in Geology and Chemistry
I one day hope to get a job in the environmental field, but for now, the job i have pays the bills Oh and the spiritual thing, im an athiest as a lot of scientists are, the way i see religion is just a war starter, most of the wars of the last few thousand years have been caused by religion..Its stupid, just my 2c
Religion (spirituality) and science are 2 very different things. I have one more year to go in my environmental biology degree, and I love every aspect of science. I am also a very strong Christian. I don't find any conflict between the 2. I have several professors that would agree. My marine biology professor has her doctorate, and she is a Christian as well.
I am a Christian. I also am an Engineer. I guess that qualifies me for working in the science field. Right now I design wireless communication systems and components.
| coolclay wrote: |
| Religion (spirituality) and science are 2 very different things. |
As are religion and spirituality.....( sorry for late response, hope I'm not beating a dead horse heh)
That's awesome, I always love to hear about jobs that involve science....
I myself will likely never work one, but none the less it is interesting...
and it's nice to know the kind of things that go on behind the scenes
of the day-to-day world (as well as the people involved)
I'm pretty surprised at the ammount of people who are into science and
yet haven't studdied or worked in relation to it....it's good to know!
It's also (pleasently) surprising to hear of those who do maintain a degree of spiritualism
and still regaurd scientific standings...
I do understand that many here are athiests, and I don't think that athiests are bad people,
nor do I think they are wrong in any sense...the reason I braught this up in this forrum rather
than the religion forrum is because
A: I wasn't speaking of religion I was speaking of 'spiritualism' which as someone pointed out
are two different things.
I myself am more or less against "organized" religion because They tend to say "we are right and
everyone else is wrong" (I also find that true of many athiests) - It's all too extreme for me...I can
understand and appreciate the conviction behind such thinking, but it seems far too one sided...
and there's always two sides to every coin
B: because I am more interested in people who are observant of scientifical law and still able
to be open to not just what is 'provable' but more than just 'what is provable', people who can
understand the very physical system of things and then ponder the "invisable force" that initiates
and maintains the 'system of things' --- Rather than asking People who are "religious" if they
have some sort of scientifical beleifs...everyone of them will say yes (having no choice but to
accept a fact is a fact) and then when asked about the "beyond" respond with an absolute "well
because God made it that way".
Anyhow, thank you all for your answers and please do feel free to answer more!
as for myself? again, I do not work in a science related job (unless you count 'personal massagers'
as engineering examples? heh) but I do love the 'facts of life'...as well as the 'mysteries'.....
To me, science compliments and benefits my spirituality, and vice versa.....
I think an open mind in both areas is best...
anyhow..thanks again...
(oh...and as for those "children who hide behind things" or what not,
I figure if a persons beleifs benefit them in any way, they aren't fake
or useless at all. If you beleive something is real, then to you, it is.
I don't care much for religious fanatics, nor non religious ones...
but, to each their own eh ) I think people who aren't in the sciences don't realize that unless you have a passionate desire to understand what you're working with, science is very repetitive and mundane. Despite how far logic may get you in the real world (it gets you faaar!), logic in science can be detrimental to forming new hypotheses and rejecting established theories. Flexibility and a willingness to learn are a must for science. If you do lab work, a flexible schedule really helps. Some days, you'll be in the lab for 10+ hours, some for 2... sometimes, you'll even sleep there overnight. Anything for science!@
