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Sabbath rest is saturday or sunday?
I used to think on sunday as the biblical rest day, but now I believe there is no strong reason for this day. The Bible says saturday is the sabbath rest day. Why should I disagree? Do you think there is any evidence I am ignoring?
As per The Bible, Saturday is the true Sabbath. However, somewhere along the line, as one of its moves to appease potential worshippers among the pagan tribes, the Catholic Church moved it to Sunday (which was the weekly pagan day of relaxation).
If it helps,
HM
If it helps,
HM
From what I've found out, the reason it was changed to Sunday was because that is the day the Lord rose from the dead. Saturday is the Sabbath for the OT.
At least that is the way I understand it.
At least that is the way I understand it.
Well it s saturday, no doubt..
Peace be upon you all.
Doesn't the sabbath day differ for the three Abrahamiac (spelling?) religions. I mean for Judaism, sabbath day is saturday. For christianity, it's sunday, and for Islam it's friday.
I guess what i'm saying, what DEFINES the sabbath?
Peace!
Doesn't the sabbath day differ for the three Abrahamiac (spelling?) religions. I mean for Judaism, sabbath day is saturday. For christianity, it's sunday, and for Islam it's friday.
I guess what i'm saying, what DEFINES the sabbath?
Peace!
As I've understood, the sabbath day is Saturday, but as we believers aren't under the Law anymore since Christ has freed us, so for us every day is the Lord's Day! 
The Lord doesn't just look at what we do on a Saturday or Sunday, we ought to be believers all the days of the week, not just Saturday or Sunday. We weren't made for the sabbath, the sabbath was made for us!
I said that we aren't under the law, which is true, but we should try to obey the law still, but it is not a must. The Law says that we should eat blood or pork or what ever, but since we aren't under it we can.
The Lord doesn't just look at what we do on a Saturday or Sunday, we ought to be believers all the days of the week, not just Saturday or Sunday. We weren't made for the sabbath, the sabbath was made for us!
I said that we aren't under the law, which is true, but we should try to obey the law still, but it is not a must. The Law says that we should eat blood or pork or what ever, but since we aren't under it we can.
I don't think it matters what day you observe as the sabath...
it's just good to spend at least one day a week to think about, and worship God.
I like to consider everyday my sabath (and my body is my temple)
but at least one day a week I try to step it up a notch and do more god-related things
Historicaly? pretty sure saturday was the original.
it's just good to spend at least one day a week to think about, and worship God.
I like to consider everyday my sabath (and my body is my temple)
but at least one day a week I try to step it up a notch and do more god-related things
Historicaly? pretty sure saturday was the original.
What makes you to think this way?
KronikSindrome wrote:
Whong wrote:
Loyal wrote:
livilou wrote:
I ask:
Is there any sort of evidence that indicates the very day doesn´t matter? Or in other words, do we just need one day in the week to dedicate our attention to God, no matter what? Can I say the importance given in the old and new testments are void and the people who believes saturday is still a special day for talking with God are missing a point? My question is: what point (what is the foundation of this?)
Just for understanding this question, consider the following parable (please, only if you understand it is applyable): there is a father and his son in vacation; the father says to his son to phone him whenever he needs or wants to, but daily he wants his son to phone precisely at 12 o´clock. Don´t you think if the father wants to change this time he would say it verbally, as did the first time?
Do you think 2Co 5:17 applies in this case?
KronikSindrome wrote:
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| don't think it matters what day you observe as the sabath...
it's just good to spend at least one day a week to think about, and worship God. I like to consider everyday my sabath (and my body is my temple) but at least one day a week I try to step it up a notch and do more god-related things Historicaly? pretty sure saturday was the original. |
Whong wrote:
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| As I've understood, the sabbath day is Saturday, but as we believers aren't under the Law anymore since Christ has freed us, so for us every day is the Lord's Day!
The Lord doesn't just look at what we do on a Saturday or Sunday, we ought to be believers all the days of the week, not just Saturday or Sunday. We weren't made for the sabbath, the sabbath was made for us! I said that we aren't under the law, which is true, but we should try to obey the law still, but it is not a must. The Law says that we should eat blood or pork or what ever, but since we aren't under it we can. |
Loyal wrote:
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| Peace be upon you all.
Doesn't the sabbath day differ for the three Abrahamiac (spelling?) religions. I mean for Judaism, sabbath day is saturday. For christianity, it's sunday, and for Islam it's friday. I guess what i'm saying, what DEFINES the sabbath? Peace! |
livilou wrote:
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| From what I've found out, the reason it was changed to Sunday was because that is the day the Lord rose from the dead. Saturday is the Sabbath for the OT.
At least that is the way I understand it. |
I ask:
Is there any sort of evidence that indicates the very day doesn´t matter? Or in other words, do we just need one day in the week to dedicate our attention to God, no matter what? Can I say the importance given in the old and new testments are void and the people who believes saturday is still a special day for talking with God are missing a point? My question is: what point (what is the foundation of this?)
Just for understanding this question, consider the following parable (please, only if you understand it is applyable): there is a father and his son in vacation; the father says to his son to phone him whenever he needs or wants to, but daily he wants his son to phone precisely at 12 o´clock. Don´t you think if the father wants to change this time he would say it verbally, as did the first time?
Do you think 2Co 5:17 applies in this case?
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| Grace to you, and peace be multiplied by a full knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord.(2Pe 1:2) |
The Sabbath was and always will be on Saturday. Christians normally hold their primary worship services on Sunday, which is called "The Lord's Day", because that is the day Jesus rose from the grave.
Christians are encouraged to experience a "freedom in Christ", which allows them to honor the principles of the Kingdom of God without sweating whether they perform all the details that are contained in the law. Many Christians have failed to understand that The Lord's Day and the Sabbath are two separate things, and therefore have been in turmoil over which is the "right day to worship".
Ideally, a Christian worships every day, at every moment. Also, we are called to enter "God's rest", which is the fullfillment of the Sabbath, and also should be our position at every moment of every day. In the world we live in, things are not so perfect. There are good reasons to set aside a day for worship and a day for rest. Traditionally most Christians have considered these to be the same day. I think we would be wiser if we hold our primary worship services on whatever day of the week we find convenient, but should continue to prefer Sunday not because of something that happened in the Roman Enpire, but because Jesus rose on that day. We can also rest physically on any day of the week we like. As an example, many Pastors rest on Monday, and some might (erroneously, in my opinion) consider that that is their Sabbath.
I believe we should acknowledge the continuing reality of Saturday as the one and only day especially set aside by God. Our freedom in Christ would not be impaired if we honored that day, and we would be wise to find some ways to celebrate it as special. At the same time, we ought not be caught up in all the details of the Jewish keeping of the Sabbath. We should keep it, rather, by honoring the spirit of relieving the poor, taking some time to connect with God, etc.
Christians are encouraged to experience a "freedom in Christ", which allows them to honor the principles of the Kingdom of God without sweating whether they perform all the details that are contained in the law. Many Christians have failed to understand that The Lord's Day and the Sabbath are two separate things, and therefore have been in turmoil over which is the "right day to worship".
Ideally, a Christian worships every day, at every moment. Also, we are called to enter "God's rest", which is the fullfillment of the Sabbath, and also should be our position at every moment of every day. In the world we live in, things are not so perfect. There are good reasons to set aside a day for worship and a day for rest. Traditionally most Christians have considered these to be the same day. I think we would be wiser if we hold our primary worship services on whatever day of the week we find convenient, but should continue to prefer Sunday not because of something that happened in the Roman Enpire, but because Jesus rose on that day. We can also rest physically on any day of the week we like. As an example, many Pastors rest on Monday, and some might (erroneously, in my opinion) consider that that is their Sabbath.
I believe we should acknowledge the continuing reality of Saturday as the one and only day especially set aside by God. Our freedom in Christ would not be impaired if we honored that day, and we would be wise to find some ways to celebrate it as special. At the same time, we ought not be caught up in all the details of the Jewish keeping of the Sabbath. We should keep it, rather, by honoring the spirit of relieving the poor, taking some time to connect with God, etc.
Saturday. I agree with SonLight's post above.
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