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Were Pyramids realy the tomb of Farao's?





bukaida
A recent study has revealed that the pyramids were basicaly used as a shelter against the natural calamities and not as a tomb of faraos.Except the pyramids of Tutankhamen(Possibly spelling mistake Wink ), no other pyramid contained any trace of tomb.All the mummies recovered were from the sand of the nearby deserts and not from inside the pyramid.It will be helpful if anyone can throw some more light in this issue.I read the news in a local newspaper so cannot provide the web source.
anonymous21
From what I have guessed, long ago after the pharaohs were mummified and put to the tomb, ancient empires began to invade their civilization, thus I/we can have a hypothesis that the invaders may changed/did something to the pyramids (Exploring for example; or planned to destroy/experiment their culture like throwing some of the bodies away from the pyramids, etc.).

For my second hypothesis, many years/centuries have passed already and its impossible that some people did not explore those pyramids in Egypt. Remembering the traps hidden inside, people open up the tombs and observe the mummies. (This is a very weird guess but it's just a share of my opinion) Explorers may put the mummies in some part of a room where they observe the "coffin" of the mummy and they may have accessed a trap and instead of them to be put out in the pyramid, the mummies they placed somewhere else can be the ones who are hit and causing them to be thrown away in the pyramids. X_X

For my third guess, weathers were going in one place to another and there is a possibility that sandstorms may have passed between the pyramids and the effect/s would be having a very large amount of strong wind causing it to blow away some of the things inside the tombs (since doors were open/there were fragments of roofs that were destroyed by different weathers and its old age).

Note: This is only a hypothesis; NOT a Theorem or Something perhaps. Peace! -Anonymous21
Indyan
Whats your source? I think there has been plenty of proof that pyramids housed mummies. Afterall many pyramids were unsealed in the modern age.
Shewolf
I came to think of that as well, where have you heard these theories?
denestry
Read the book "Fingerprints of the Gods" by Graham Hancock. You won't be sorry. Basically he destroys classical theory about pyramids as tombs.
medievalman26
The answer is debatable but spelling does count for me. Pharaohs is the correct spelling. Read as much as you can about this subject then make an educated guess based on the information is all I can say because I have not really read up on this subject as much recently.
Ducksteina
Start watching Stargate^^. All you wanted to know about ancient gods and piramids is revealed there.
Yeah sure there are many theories, but no one can proof if there right... i think.
It's still one of the biggest enigma on our world.
patasarriba
bukaida wrote:
Except the pyramids of Tutankhamen(Possibly spelling mistake Wink ), no other pyramid contained any trace of tomb.


Wasn't Tutankhamen (sp? too) buried in the Valley of the Kings? I didn't think he had a pyramid.

As for your original question, there have been so many tomb robbers in Egypt for so many thousands of years that lack of a tomb doesn't mean much. From what I can tell, the thieves have done a pretty impressive job of destroying everything around the tomb as well. That a grave would be robbed and its shelter then used for other purposes is not hard to imagine.

denestry wrote:
Read the book "Fingerprints of the Gods" by Graham Hancock. You won't be sorry. Basically he destroys classical theory about pyramids as tombs.


It's certainly in style to debunk/destroy every single accepted theory in the universe. But I've read a number of Graham Hancock's books and personally consider him to be full of it.
pronez
That teachers were teached to me and i belive they.
{name here}
bukaida wrote:
A recent study has revealed that the pyramids were basicaly used as a shelter against the natural calamities and not as a tomb of faraos.Except the pyramids of Tutankhamen(Possibly spelling mistake Wink ), no other pyramid contained any trace of tomb.All the mummies recovered were from the sand of the nearby deserts and not from inside the pyramid.It will be helpful if anyone can throw some more light in this issue.I read the news in a local newspaper so cannot provide the web source.

King Tut? Pyramid? He was buried after pyramids were "out", in a tomb in the Valley of the Kings.
I don't really think that they would be used primarily as shelters. Secondarily maybe, but not primarily. Why would they place false doors and inscriptions relating to the afterlife onto the walls if they were just going to house a few people in sandstorms and the like?
palavra
once i heard a theory that claims pyramids are provision store of the prophet Josef in seven years of famous famine ın Egypt.
ExecuKev
Doesn't anybody wonder where they Egyptions got their enormous wealth!?

The pyramids were all clearly used as Casinos of the Desert where craps, poker & slots.

A modern day example can be seen in Vegas called the Luxor!

tijn01
Of course they where... they found their mummies inside the pirmides. However it is very likely that the pyramides had other roles as well
gottastory
I'll agree. I am really wondering who crafted the shap of pyramids, and what other significance does it have in regards to building structure. It's amazing that throughout time how people mimiced it's shape, but not it's purpose.
AFriedman
Pyramids really were the tombs of pharaohs, but only in the early period of Egyptian history. After this period, pharaohs stopped being buried in pyramids and in fact, the building of the pyramids was expensive and contributed to collapse and destabilization in Egyptian civilization.
msfuture
I think the tombs where used in the time of the farao´s
So they used the tombs for storage of the farao´s when they die.
They did that because they want to hold it as an commeration ''dont know how to spell''

And now its only a place for the tourist who want to visit them
Omega-hotelomega
The Pyramid of Mars was the prison of Sutekh , Last of the Osirians..
Kopernikus
Razz
Well I think this post was just another example of someone desperate for a few points...

Pyramids are a rather global human phenomenon, but in the short period of the old kingdom they were the center of big district, in which the pharaohs were revered.

But they were just a much too big "robb me" sign for the poor people to resist... so they decided to try other methods of interring their godkings, most famous the "Valley of the Kings", where Tutankhamun´s grave was discovered.
Moshkin_Khan
Surely you wouldnt spend decades building a pyramid and forcing thousands of slaves to build one, just to shelter yourself from the rain. There must have been better methods than that.
deanhills
My common sense says that perhaps the pharaohs lived in them and died in them. And their children built their own pyramids and lived in them and died in them. Along those lines. Their homes became their tombs after they passed on?
Kopernikus
I don´t know how the belief started, that *slaves* built the pyramids...

The workers were peasants, but well paid, who worked off their communal obligations. They took pride in what they were doing and built something, which was for them akin to our cathedrals.

Does anybody think that Notre Dame in Paris were living quarters for the pope?
deanhills
Kopernikus wrote:

Does anybody think that Notre Dame in Paris were living quarters for the pope?
Nor for a Pharaoh Smile
Klaw 2
deanhills wrote:
My common sense says that perhaps the pharaohs lived in them and died in them. And their children built their own pyramids and lived in them and died in them. Along those lines. Their homes became their tombs after they passed on?


I'm pretty shure the didn't live there to cramped and no windows, or fresh air. They had regular palaces for living and the pyramids were just tombs. To shelter from anything is just ridiculus, at the time there was nothing to shelter from except nile flooding. Walking uphill would keep ya dry. There are sandstorms and though hazerdous (if you somehow get lost) you don't need a friging massive pyramid. Just keep close to the nile and you are safe.
anakin_skyrunner
Interesting theories, though I still believe that they were/are tombs for pharaos... They certainly had other places to go to when a sandstorm drew near. And they certainly didn't live in there, the pharaos had palaces as Klaw 2 already mentioned.
Vrythramax
To my knowlege, they were tombs, but they were also disturbed (broken into) many many times over the centuries, and thier contents stolen and sold...in some cases even the mummies were sold, most times they were tossed away, which may account for the mummies found in the desert. The mummification process was a long, drawn out affair taking about a month to complete, and only the wealthiest citizens could afford the process.

There was also a great number more pyramids than most people believe, and cultures all over the world used the pyramid structure as a tomb for not only the ruling class, but also for those wealthy enough to afford to have one built. Some cultures half the world away used pyramids, such as the Incan and Myan peoples to name just a couple.

*EDIT -
I just watched a program about the pyramids and it seems I was partially wrong. The pyramids at Giza were tombs, but almost everywhere else they were used as repositories of knowlege, kinda like locked encyclopedias, but they also held the bodies of important people (in some cases) so that future generations could "learn" from them.
deanhills
Vrythramax wrote:
I just watched a program about the pyramids and it seems I was partially wrong. The pyramids at Giza were tombs, but almost everywhere else they were used as repositories of knowlege, kinda like locked encyclopedias, but they also held the bodies of important people (in some cases) so that future generations could "learn" from them.
Just for the sake of being argumentative I'm still wondering about this though. How did they determine that the pyramids were tombs? Is it possible because they were all closed up with no windows of a kind? Smile Wouldn't they have been great shelters in war? Or was there some solid scientific evidence that indicated it was a memorial type tomb, possibly with stories written against the inner walls etc.?
Vrythramax
deanhills wrote:
Just for the sake of being argumentative I'm still wondering about this though. How did they determine that the pyramids were tombs? Is it possible because they were all closed up with no windows of a kind? Smile Wouldn't they have been great shelters in war? Or was there some solid scientific evidence that indicated it was a memorial type tomb, possibly with stories written against the inner walls etc.?


I'm not sure exactly how they came to that conclusion, but I'll take a shot in the dark here and say that maybe it had something to do with the dead bodies stored in there. Razz
Kopernikus
deanhills wrote:
Vrythramax wrote:
I just watched a program about the pyramids and it seems I was partially wrong. The pyramids at Giza were tombs, but almost everywhere else they were used as repositories of knowlege, kinda like locked encyclopedias, but they also held the bodies of important people (in some cases) so that future generations could "learn" from them.
Just for the sake of being argumentative I'm still wondering about this though. How did they determine that the pyramids were tombs? Is it possible because they were all closed up with no windows of a kind? Smile Wouldn't they have been great shelters in war? Or was there some solid scientific evidence that indicated it was a memorial type tomb, possibly with stories written against the inner walls etc.?


Or maybe the description of the funeral rites on the walls?
The fact that sarcophagus were found in them?

Would you live in a skyscraper, filled up with gravel except for the elevator shafts?

You could of course postulate that the ancient egyptians had nuclear weapons and the pyramids were fallout shelters...
Solon_Poledourus
Kopernikus wrote:
Or maybe the description of the funeral rites on the walls?
In these funeral rites, do they explicitly say that the pyramids were tombs?
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The fact that sarcophagus were found in them?
The fact that no bodies were found in them, and that they were constructed differently than any other kind of Egyptian sarcophagi, and that they were too short to have had a man laid out in them(even Napoleon had a hard time stretching out in one), all cast doubt upon this.
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Would you live in a skyscraper, filled up with gravel except for the elevator shafts?
No. Would you wipe your *** with sandpaper while whistling Dixie? Wait... that makes no sense...
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You could of course postulate that the ancient egyptians had nuclear weapons and the pyramids were fallout shelters...
Or you could postulate that the Egyptians preferred to bury their kings where their bodies have actually been found; in a strange place coincidentally named the Valley of the Kings, and that the pyramids were something else. Possible observatories, maybe religious monuments, or they could just have been public works projects built by kings who were trying to boost the failing economy by providing thousands of jobs and giving people something to do other than revolt.

The unfortunate truth is that we will probably never know the exact purpose of the pyramids. We get stuck with the "tomb" theory because that's what the status quo of Egyptian historians believes. And once historians write something down, they absolutely hate having to change it, so putting forth any other theory on the pyramids will invariably be called "whacky" by the historical and archaeological community.
Kopernikus
Well, would you paint your living room with scenes of a burial?

Sarcophagus came in all sizes, there were even some for cats. The average ancient egyptian was smaller than the average european, so no wonder that they wouldn´t fit.

The Valley of Kings came *much* later (new kingdom), the pyramids where built about a millennium earlier (old kingdom). The weren´t isolated buildings in the middle of the desert, they were the center of whole templedistrict where officials and family were buried in smaller tombs. You´re looking only at the pyramids themselves, not on their context.
Vrythramax
Kopernikus wrote:
Well, would you paint your living room with scenes of a burial?


I dated a goth who would have been very interested in such a decor. The simple fact remains that we will never truly know what was going on in the minds of our ancestors...but it sure is fun speculating. Smile
Kopernikus
Vrythramax wrote:
Kopernikus wrote:
Well, would you paint your living room with scenes of a burial?


I dated a goth who would have been very interested in such a decor. The simple fact remains that we will never truly know what was going on in the minds of our ancestors...but it sure is fun speculating. Smile


I know what you mean. And while I have to agree, that we wouldn´t understand our ancestors completely, some parts of their lives we can relate to. Agriculture, war or sometimes all sort of crafts have the same constraints all over the world and in every age.
Religion on the other hand is a very different pair of shoes....
goutha
Well, I visited the pyramids of Egypt twice, and I can assure you that they were a tomb.

For those who believe that they were built by ET, not sure about that Smile
deanhills
I sometimes wonder why we only had pyramids in Egypt, and not in other countries of the world. Why Egypt only? Question
Kopernikus
deanhills wrote:
I sometimes wonder why we only had pyramids in Egypt, and not in other countries of the world. Why Egypt only? Question


Well, there are all kinds of pyramids all over the world...

You can find them from south america to paris Very Happy
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