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nclemale
hope am in right forum for this
i have seen somewhere that its possible to use an old desktop as a server .

what would i need to do that .

server software obviously

but what about database . how would that bit work out.

your views please
shkumbin
If you don't want to be bothered with linux, which is pretty hard to learn, but very safe, on Windows machine you could run an Apache server (http://www.apache.org/), with MySQL database (http://www.mysql.com/), PHP for script files and programs like WordPress and Joomla (http://www.php.net/), Perl, CGI and more things like FTP server (http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/) and Mail server (http://www.pmail.com/overviews/ovw_mercury.htm) all for FREE. You have to love open-source projects. But, installing them all and making them work together is very hard work, so I once experimented with XAMPP - http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html, it's very easy to install, you get all the features you need to run e server and you have one control pannel, BUT running Apache in Windows it's not such a good idea anyway because its not safe, unless you update your server frequently for vulnerabilties and use a firewall. I don't have much experience on *nix maxhines, so maybe somebody other wil have something to add...
nclemale
nice one.

i am already familiar with phpmyadmin sql . i have apache running on pc but i dont know why to be honest . i installed it when i was reading a tutorial on php . never thought of it to be used as a server.

thanks anyway
billgertz
shkumbin wrote:
..........You have to love open-source projects. But, installing them all and making them work together is very hard work, so I once experimented with XAMPP - http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html, it's very easy to install, you get all the features you need to run e server and you have one control pannel...


This one is a very good suggestion. I'm also using xampp on my old PC. as test server. You can use your old PC but it may only have limited feature.
btw, do you have plans in making your old PC assessable over the internet? or your just going to use it for educational purposes? Its more usefull if you will just use it locally and not across the internet.

shkumbin wrote:
.. BUT running Apache in Windows it's not such a good idea anyway because its not safe, unless you update your server frequently for vulnerabilties and use a firewall. I don't have much experience on *nix maxhines, so maybe somebody other wil have something to add...


true. make sure your server is updated also with the xampp. don't forget to secure your Xampp.
mehulved
Very useful replies so far. But nclemale has not mentioned about what kind of server (s)he wants. And what use will it be put to. And what kind of resources are at hand, like PC configuration, network connection.
nclemale
thanks guys.
yes well i was wondering if it possible to put my own sites on the server/desktop on the net .

that way i be completly my own host .

dunno tho. am still learning.
mehulved
nclemale wrote:
thanks guys.
yes well i was wondering if it possible to put my own sites on the server/desktop on the net .

that way i be completly my own host .

dunno tho. am still learning.
Really that depends on how many people visit your site. You may not be able to provide enough bandwidth for all visitors. Also, you may not get the same uptime as you'd get on a server.
It is certainly possible to do what you want but not recommended unless it's just a really small site with not too many visitors.
I have set up blogs, forums, wiki's on my PC for the purpose of testing and a couple of times for sharing content with friends. But, it was really small in scale and needn't be available whenever the visitor wanted. I would just start the services whenever I felt the need to do so, not all the time.
Also, by doing this you are opening up a lot of security risks.
shenyl
Yes, I do have a spare PC and a spare NB, and would also like to experiment with putting my server on the web with BB and a web site.

I have one PC configured with Win 2000 server and uses NO IP for registering my dynamic IP with the NO IP DNS server, to allow access from the Internet.

Is there other ways to do this and simply? Will like to try it out, as I am on a semi-retirement status, and have time to expriment.

XAMPP - will check out, but others please advice on the dynamic IP issue.

Thank you.
shenyl
Yes, XAMPP seem good, but if I am using a Windows 2003 server, it already has an IIS server running that also support FTP, is there a way to install PHP, MySQL and BB on this desktop machine using the IIS instead of installing another Web server?

That will make it more suitable for a Windows environment.

Look forward to more advice for exprimenting a desktop machine as a server.
nclemale
glad i started a cool topic.

am sticking to web based servers. far easier . if i was more computer minded i might of gave it a shot .
thanks everyone
shenyl
Yes, good that you are happy for the time being.
I guess you mean letting others hosting your web site.

But, I am still searching to host a home server with my dynamic IP and a less powerful NB or home desktop PC.

Will look else where for a solution.

With best regards.
fadirocks
Windows 2003 man why did you buy that stuff?
Just linux server with a good server package
http://www.php-mysql-tutorial.com/install-apache-php-mysql.php
d3f3nd3r
debian with apache, mysql and samba -> best homeserversolution
internetjobs
no problem u can use. but if you have more than 25 clients or more then the performance will be very slow, and u want to put more
RAM.
YellowShadow
It would be possible but check with your ISP if they allow it. I know that Charter doesn't.
corey
YellowShadow wrote:
It would be possible but check with your ISP if they allow it. I know that Charter doesn't.
Actually, most ISPs won't allow servers on home accounts, although they often don't bother with them if the traffic's low.
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