Ok...in the Quran it says some stuff about the universe being made out atoms and hints at GOd making the big bang. I'm wondering if this is in the Original Al Quran or just a product of translation.
Question about atoms and the Quran
I don't know. But, what if it's true, then what?
| EanofAthenasPrime wrote: |
| Ok...in the Quran it says some stuff about the universe being made out atoms and hints at GOd making the big bang. I'm wondering if this is in the Original Al Quran or just a product of translation. |
It's not a product of translation, because it has the same meaning in the original Arabic language.
But if possible, could you give me the verse you are talking about?
Yes, I think I have an idea of what Aya you are talking about. BUt if you could give it to me, it would help. And yes, this confirms the belief that Islam confirms the Big Bang.
| polis wrote: |
| I don't know. But, what if it's true, then what? |
Then you have to ask yourself "What man would have the knowlege of the Big Bang in 7th century Arabia"?
This has nothing to do with Big Bang, but with atoms.
And the first idea about the existence of atoms was developed by Democritus in Greece, around 450 B.C
And the first idea about the existence of atoms was developed by Democritus in Greece, around 450 B.C
| polis wrote: |
| This has nothing to do with Big Bang, but with atoms.
And the first idea about the existence of atoms was developed by Democritus in Greece, around 450 B.C |
Even so, how would that get into the Qur'an? Most Pre-Islamic Arabians were an Ummi people, people who substituted writing for memory. The Qur'an was first compiled into a Memorized recitation.
Arabs were confused when verses like this were revealed, because they had no idea what an atom was.
I thing you are wrong.
Arabs, Greeks, Egyptians and even Hindus, were very close in matters of mathematics, physics and literature. Oh, and remember that the "western world" recieve a lot of culture from arabs like maths. Even the numbers (123456780). One more thing, by the times of Muhammad, Arabs knew very well the concepts like atom, because they did not follow the Plato's ideas (the world was composed by earth, fire, water and air).
Arabs were not retarded as the medieval western kindoms tells in their records.
Arabs, Greeks, Egyptians and even Hindus, were very close in matters of mathematics, physics and literature. Oh, and remember that the "western world" recieve a lot of culture from arabs like maths. Even the numbers (123456780). One more thing, by the times of Muhammad, Arabs knew very well the concepts like atom, because they did not follow the Plato's ideas (the world was composed by earth, fire, water and air).
Arabs were not retarded as the medieval western kindoms tells in their records.
| polis wrote: |
| I thing you are wrong.
Arabs, Greeks, Egyptians and even Hindus, were very close in matters of mathematics, physics and literature. Oh, and remember that the "western world" recieve a lot of culture from arabs like maths. Even the numbers (123456780). One more thing, by the times of mahomma, Arabs knew very well the concepts like atom, because they did not follow the Plato's ideas (the world was composed by earth, fire, water and air). Arabs were not retarded as the medieval western kindoms tells in their records. |
Pre-Islamic Arabia was a very barbarous world. If you were not with a tribe, you were pretty much a dead man. History, and many Hadiths, tell us this. I am not dissagreeing that Arabs were very close with matters of Mathematics. They even invented the concept of Algebra (Al-Jabra). But this was during the "Islamic period". I am not dissagreeing that Greeks, Egyptians, and Hindus knowing these matters. Yet, when many of these great theories and concepts were lost(Ex. Library of Alexandria), It was the Muslims who were able to discover these again. I could cite sources in a future time, Insha'Allah. I am just trying to explain my reasoning.
I am not saying Arabs were retarded. I am also quick to say that I wouldn't believe anything Medieval Kingdoms say about Muslims and "Mohamet", because it was the Muslims who inspired the European Rennaissance. Thomas Aquinas used many of his sources from Muslim Philosopher, Ibn Rushd.
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