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Why is the Halo world's technology so outdated?






From what century will Halo's technology really be from?
2000-2100
50%
 50%  [ 3 ]
2100-2200
33%
 33%  [ 2 ]
2200-2300
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
2300-2400
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
2400-2500
16%
 16%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 6

EanofAthenasPrime
Ok...this a topic about the FPS Halo. In it, it is supposedly the year 2500 something. However, the only technology they have is high tech space craft.

The rest of the technology includes

Spartan Energy Shield technology stolen from another planet

Guns that use gunpowder with modern day muzzle velocity.

ATV vehicles with diesel engines and not even modern day shielding from weapons fire, which travel at an astounding 30 miles per hour. Their weapon is a modern day 50 caliber machine gun mounted on the back.

Tanks that use diesel engines which fire a modern day tank cannon and a modern day 50 cal. machine gun. Also note the tank moves at an astounding 15 miles per hour max velocity. Modern tanks can travel at 40 mph.

SMG's which are so weak Marines with no face protection can get shot in the face and still mantain consciousness, boasting high recoil, low accuracy and a small 60 rnd clip.

A suposedly state of the art soldier which can flip over 2 ton tanks, yet cannot control the recoil of a shotgun or SMG. However Marines can use these "mighty" weapons with the same or less recoil. Also, in Halo 2, they have a shotgun that makes a 5 dollar airsoft gun seem accurate. The shotgun is so inaccurate you would be afraid the pellets would go backward and hit you in the face, but then again it is so weak you probably wouldn't even realize it. What, was there a weapons ban right before the war and the scientists had 5 days to make some weapons so thats what happened? The rifles have the distinct appearance of being made with a concrete-titanium alloy.

I'm sorry, I know its a videogame, but they seem to think that technology will totally stagnate for 500 years. Is there some secret apocalypse in the Halo universe that I don't know about? Also, in Africa, it is like just as poor as it is now. There are no actual houses, and the closest thing to high tech is Hotel Zanzibar. I hope the future will not be like this in 500 yrs.
Mathew Elric
The game is supposed to be challenging. Having really powerful weapons and such wouldn't make the game very much fun to play. It's a game, it doesn't have to make sense. Considering how our space travel now is extremely limited, Halo's tech doesn't seem too far off. Confused
EanofAthenasPrime
Mathew Elric wrote:
The game is supposed to be challenging. Having really powerful weapons and such wouldn't make the game very much fun to play. It's a game, it doesn't have to make sense. Considering how our space travel now is extremely limited, Halo's tech doesn't seem too far off. Confused


but thats what makes no sense. In Halo, the spaceships are really advanced but nothing else is, the OPPOSITE of the tech today.

Also, in battle, shields always match the weapons traditionally. When they invented the sword, they countered it with the shield. When they made guns, they eventually made Kevlar. When the made chemical warfare, they created Hazmat suits. When they made nukes, well, we wont get into that one.

Anyways, my point is, Halo could have had super high tech weaponry, and super high tech shields to counter it. However the creators weren't that creative. Crying or Very sad
QrafTee
Mathew Elric wrote:
The game is supposed to be challenging. Having really powerful weapons and such wouldn't make the game very much fun to play. It's a game, it doesn't have to make sense. Considering how our space travel now is extremely limited, Halo's tech doesn't seem too far off. Confused

A game doesn't have to make sense? Okay... maybe in Mario where plumbers go through pipes to defeat spiked turtles. But in a game like Halo which boasts some realism, it has to make sense man.
EanofAthenasPrime
QrafTee wrote:
Mathew Elric wrote:
The game is supposed to be challenging. Having really powerful weapons and such wouldn't make the game very much fun to play. It's a game, it doesn't have to make sense. Considering how our space travel now is extremely limited, Halo's tech doesn't seem too far off. Confused

A game doesn't have to make sense? Okay... maybe in Mario where plumbers go through pipes to defeat spiked turtles. But in a game like Halo which boasts some realism, it has to make sense man.


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catscratches
Why would the weapon industry improve? We already have so nice methods of killing each other. We do it all the time, every day, every single hour. Also, why would we come up with a lot of new things when noone wants to be a scientist? (at least not here in Sweden)
QrafTee
catscratches wrote:
Why would the weapon industry improve? We already have so nice methods of killing each other. We do it all the time, every day, every single hour. Also, why would we come up with a lot of new things when noone wants to be a scientist? (at least not here in Sweden)

Yeah, I don't know what you guys are doing in Sweden, but in the U.S. we've developed sound-based weapons that can turn your insides into liquid. New LED camo-suits which have cameras making it seem like a soldier is actually the surroundings.
Nameless
Obviously, games aren't meant to be realistic. And let's not forget: When designed Halo, the designers had the choice to either create a whole bunch of new random weapons and defences, or use well known and accepted weapon types. Naturally, they'd go with those that are tried and tested.
EanofAthenasPrime
catscratches wrote:
Why would the weapon industry improve? We already have so nice methods of killing each other. We do it all the time, every day, every single hour. Also, why would we come up with a lot of new things when noone wants to be a scientist? (at least not here in Sweden)


The question is not why they would improve, but how much would they will improve. We all know th$ rea$on$ they would improv$. The weapons in Halo just don't make sense. As QrafTree stated, we have more advanced weapons right now than the ones in Halo. Looks like the weapons specialist in Bungie thinks the US army uses airsoft guns in Iraq.
catscratches
I think that all games that have spacecrafts should explain how they are built and how they work! Then we could all make our own spacecrafts!!!!!!

It's impossible to know what's going to be in the future, why not use old weapons instead. Then you don't have to use your imagination.
QrafTee
catscratches wrote:
I think that all games that have spacecrafts should explain how they are built and how they work! Then we could all make our own spacecrafts!!!!!!

It's impossible to know what's going to be in the future, why not use old weapons instead. Then you don't have to use your imagination.

... That's not what we were talking about... And it starts to become sad when games actually deprive you of your imagination... if anything it should broaden it.
Sphaerenkern
Yeah, I also think the terrans are quite weird when we look at their technology.
I mean, it's obvious that the developers want to show the terrans as down-to-earth and hard and stuff, but they could do better, I think.
EanofAthenasPrime
Sphaerenkern wrote:
Yeah, I also think the terrans are quite weird when we look at their technology.
I mean, it's obvious that the developers want to show the terrans as down-to-earth and hard and stuff, but they could do better, I think.


terrans? If you mean the terrain? The terrain is very polygonal and not smooth to make the framerate better. If you mean extraterrestrials? I don't really know what you mean.

catscratches-Yep, it is well known that game developers possess the knowledge to travel faster than the speed of light, they just won't reveal it because they are too damn lazy...
Ghengis
Terrans = people of Terra (Earth) -- I'm not sure who started it, but it's a very common "race" name in sci-fi (see e.g Starcraft).

I agree with the OP that it seems odd -- Covenant has plasma rifles/pistols, guns with organic ammo... clearly, Bungie was not lacking in "creative" weapons -- I use the scare quotes because of course plasma weapons have a been a sci-fi staple for decades. But even though humans can clearly make spaceships that I think have energy weapons in some of the cutscenes, all the human weapons I can think of (sniper rifle, two assault rifles, shotgun, pistol, rocket launcher, missile pod... did I miss any?) fire ballistic projectiles using a propellant, presumably gunpowder. I suppose the case could be made that ballistic weapons are most cost effective to arm a large unit of troops with -- energy weapons would require very advanced (expensive) power storage, which we could in theory not have come up with yet by the time we invent interstellar travel. Still, the human weapons look decidedly 21st century, while the space ships do not.

Besides which, multiplayer is full of frickin' 12-year-olds. I played the H3 beta, but I don't expect to buy the full game.
EanofAthenasPrime
The thing I hate about Halo is the rudeness, and yes I completely agree with your post, and as for the gfx, Halo 3 is currently in beta phase, so the gfx settings are supposedly set to lowest.
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