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Any good tutorials out there to learn chinese?





Master Yoda
Hey,
I'm very fond of chinese (for some reason) and wish to learn it too.. I already found a website which could help me in learning chinese
http://www.chinese-tools.com/

But, I was wondering if there's any other site, or some free e-book or something which I could download.... coz I want to learn chinese alright, but I want to go much deeper and deeper into it... this site which I mentioned, only teaches things like how to greet other people, and how to ask directions or how to behave in a restaurant etc. etc. And that site doesn't even contain nearly 1/4th of the actual chinese characters...

So do you guys know any such good tutorial site or something??
{name here}
Well, the Foreign Service Institute has a good language course on Chinese you can use. It probably uses the grammar technique of learning a language, so you might have a harder time if you struggle in English grammar.

http://fsi-language-courses.com/Chinese.aspx
Master Yoda
{name here} wrote:
Well, the Foreign Service Institute has a good language course on Chinese you can use. It probably uses the grammar technique of learning a language, so you might have a harder time if you struggle in English grammar.

http://fsi-language-courses.com/Chinese.aspx


Nope.. I don't have any problems with English Grammar whatsoever.. thanks for the link though.. Wink Smile
yxm0513
Better way to learn chinese is more communcation with chinese people, if coming to china,you will learn more.as chinese,english is difficult to me.So...
bartdou
Chinese is easy to learn, you just need to remember 2000~3000 chinese characters,
i don't know whether 10000 english words is enough for a man to use english normally
{name here}
bartdou wrote:
Chinese is easy to learn, you just need to remember 2000~3000 chinese characters,
i don't know whether 10000 english words is enough for a man to use english normally

Though there are 3000 Chinese characters, English has the advantage of using only 26 characters representing individual sounds rather than morphemes. If you don't know a word, you can inquire a person about the word without need to point it out.

I wouldn't be surpised if some of the people I know use only 3000 or so of the 30000 or so words in the English vocabulary on a daily basis, possibly less.
bartdou
{name here} wrote:
bartdou wrote:
Chinese is easy to learn, you just need to remember 2000~3000 chinese characters,
i don't know whether 10000 english words is enough for a man to use english normally

Though there are 3000 Chinese characters, English has the advantage of using only 26 characters representing individual sounds rather than morphemes. If you don't know a word, you can inquire a person about the word without need to point it out.

I wouldn't be surpised if some of the people I know use only 3000 or so of the 30000 or so words in the English vocabulary on a daily basis, possibly less.


look, these are all chinese characters, that is to say, the number is limited, if you master them all, you can use them all your life, no matter how many new things appear later we can name them use these chinese characters whithout creat new character, and it's not hard to understand.
but english is different, it has to creat new words to name new things, the total number will be much more and people have to spend more energy to remember.
for example the word "rocket", before the rocket invented, there was no such word, but there are FIRE(in chinese) & ARROW(in chinese), so in chinese rocket means FIRE+ARROW, no new character be created, and its easy to understand what (rocket) means, an ARROW pulled by FIRE,
this phenomenon is more serious in science field, the terminology is hard for average public to understand,
bartdou
ALL CHINESE CHARACTERS:
(chinese language package should be installed on you PC)

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guys, the whole of the language that used by one-fifth of the world's population is TOTALLY in front of you now!!!
{name here}
bartdou wrote:
{name here} wrote:
bartdou wrote:
Chinese is easy to learn, you just need to remember 2000~3000 chinese characters,
i don't know whether 10000 english words is enough for a man to use english normally

Though there are 3000 Chinese characters, English has the advantage of using only 26 characters representing individual sounds rather than morphemes. If you don't know a word, you can inquire a person about the word without need to point it out.

I wouldn't be surpised if some of the people I know use only 3000 or so of the 30000 or so words in the English vocabulary on a daily basis, possibly less.


look, these are all chinese characters, that is to say, the number is limited, if you master them all, you can use them all your life, no matter how many new things appear later we can name them use these chinese characters whithout creat new character, and it's not hard to understand.
but english is different, it has to creat new words to name new things, the total number will be much more and people have to spend more energy to remember.

You can compound in English as well. It's just not as generally accepted to do so. Pancake(pan + cake), steamboat(steam + boat), mailbox (mail + box) and software(soft + ware) are all examples of you people compound English words to make new ones. Only scientists, cunning linguists and hardcore inventors will make up words based on previous terms made in Ancient Greek and Latin, which is where you get 30,000 words in English based off of compounding from these languages for words like Atmosphere (Greek words atmos(air) + sphere(ball/globe)) and Submarine(Latin words sub(under) + marine(water)). However, you still get the advantage of being able to sound out those words using only 26 sounds plus nuetrility of tone(you can say a word in any tone you want and it's going to be the same word).

Term for term, you'll still need to memorize a lot of combinations of sounds whether you're learning Chinese or English, because pancookedcake isn't a pancake and transfermessagestoragebox is not a mailbox.

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for example the word "rocket", before the rocket invented, there was no such word, but there are FIRE(in chinese) & ARROW(in chinese), so in chinese rocket means FIRE+ARROW, no new character be created, and its easy to understand what (rocket) means, an ARROW pulled by FIRE,
this phenomenon is more serious in science field, the terminology is hard for average public to understand,

As stated above this occurs in English(overall, anything, webmaster), and even moreso in German(unterseaboot, grossmutter, fuessboden, woeterbuch come in the same light as the Chinese words). Most Indo-European languages are quite synthetic. West Germanic languages like Dutch, and German are very synthetic and thus have tons of compounding. North Germanic languages like Finnish have it to an even greater extent.

Your Chinese characters are not in Unicode, so not everyone can see them. Only those which have that locale set on their computer can see them, and this locale is Latin-1, so the only way you can communicate with those is with Unicode.
See the difference with Cyrillic:
<- Not Unicode - Jumbled Mess
Теперь на форуме <- Unicode - Cyrillic
bartdou
{name here} wrote:
Your Chinese characters are not in Unicode, so not everyone can see them. Only those which have that locale set on their computer can see them, and this locale is Latin-1, so the only way you can communicate with those is with Unicode.
See the difference with Cyrillic:
? <- Not Unicode - Jumbled Mess
֧֧ ߧ ާ <- Unicode - Cyrillic


because computer was invented by you guys and OS was made by you guys, this problem will be solved one day
D'Artagnan
Hey i've looking for some good resources on chine basics:
found:

http://www.chinese-outpost.com/language/ - i'm using the grammar part for now
http://www.clearchinese.com/learn-chinese/ - they provide mp3 tutorials

someone taught me that the best way on learning chinese is start by the talking part...
since i started studing chinese yesterday (and found fabulous) i'm recommending this resources, i don't know if they are the best, for me its being easy enought.

zijin Razz
thejam
The biggest key of learning Chinese is actually praktising it. Before i came to China i allready studied some Mandarin from books. Although i knew quite some words, i didn't had any expierience prounouncing them, wich resulted in a lot of misunderstanding. Praktice on dialogs! I had some private lessons (it's very affordable here in China).
Another great source is chinesepod.com. Listen to a ten minute lesson on your way to work or university. You also have the possibility to do online exercises. very usefull.
ZeytinGrafik
wow! this is what i have been looking for. I do not want in depth information about the language. These links are more then enough. thank you Very Happy
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