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Google Adsense - *OFFICIAL THREAD*
EDIT by tidrug: There were far too many new threads on Adsense cropping up every now and then. I'm making this the official Adsense forum, and making it a sticky. Also adding the poll
Anyone have any tips on how to get more from adsense? I'm barely making anything and at this rate I might get $1 in a year. I have like 10,000 hits a day too.
Anyone have any tips on how to get more from adsense? I'm barely making anything and at this rate I might get $1 in a year. I have like 10,000 hits a day too.
Offer quality content; there is nothing more effective.
It will attract visitors and they will be interested with what AdSense tracks as meaningful to the content present.
It will attract visitors and they will be interested with what AdSense tracks as meaningful to the content present.
also you have to try and position them correctly, search in google for adsense tips.
but i agree that with more ppl having an adsense account, the money coming in is gettting less.
but i agree that with more ppl having an adsense account, the money coming in is gettting less.
ye it's hard... but just place them right etc etc... i mean, i made $1 in 7 days 
then the next 7 days after that i made $5 and it keeps rising... so keep tryin man!
then the next 7 days after that i made $5 and it keeps rising... so keep tryin man!hi ppl, i m new to this forum , bdoneck , what are you saying you have 10,000 hits per day n yet you are not making sufficient amount of money. 
... and does any body have an idea to how on average are we payed by google for a click on the adds ???[/b]
... and does any body have an idea to how on average are we payed by google for a click on the adds ???[/b]I was wondering how much you get paid for a click too.
I have searched the infos on google about the google adsense, but they do not mention how much you get per one click.
From what I understood, it depends on the ad, and it depends on the site which you click. It seems that some websites pay to google some money, and if you click that, you get more money than usual.
So in the end I understood that if they pay more to google, it gives more cash/click on that site...
I have few friends that tried to do this, they all said it's useless and you get very little money from this...
I'm trying to find other ways for earning money (freelancing is one of them. At least I get paid for my work, and I learn new stuff...)
I have searched the infos on google about the google adsense, but they do not mention how much you get per one click.
From what I understood, it depends on the ad, and it depends on the site which you click. It seems that some websites pay to google some money, and if you click that, you get more money than usual.
So in the end I understood that if they pay more to google, it gives more cash/click on that site...
I have few friends that tried to do this, they all said it's useless and you get very little money from this...
I'm trying to find other ways for earning money (freelancing is one of them. At least I get paid for my work, and I learn new stuff...)
| neekhu wrote: |
| I was wondering how much you get paid for a click too.
I have searched the infos on google about the google adsense, but they do not mention how much you get per one click. From what I understood, it depends on the ad, and it depends on the site which you click. It seems that some websites pay to google some money, and if you click that, you get more money than usual. So in the end I understood that if they pay more to google, it gives more cash/click on that site... I have few friends that tried to do this, they all said it's useless and you get very little money from this... I'm trying to find other ways for earning money (freelancing is one of them. At least I get paid for my work, and I learn new stuff...) |
It depends on the ad how much you get paid, if your sites about "free" stuff then then ad's you will recive will be based on "free"subjects that dont pay a lot, it depends on the subject of your site, as for the ad locations the best spots are hot spots, center top, bottom, and left.
https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/answer.py?answer=17954&topic=371
I'll move this topic to as it's in the wrong location.
| neekhu wrote: |
| I was wondering how much you get paid for a click too.
I have searched the infos on google about the google adsense, but they do not mention how much you get per one click. From what I understood, it depends on the ad, and it depends on the site which you click. It seems that some websites pay to google some money, and if you click that, you get more money than usual. So in the end I understood that if they pay more to google, it gives more cash/click on that site... I have few friends that tried to do this, they all said it's useless and you get very little money from this... I'm trying to find other ways for earning money (freelancing is one of them. At least I get paid for my work, and I learn new stuff...) |
Making money on the internet is very hard. If you need money, go work in your local McDonalds. You can't even compare it with what you would be earning on the internet. You should do it for your own pleasure, and be glad you get some money back from it, even if it is one dollar for 100 hours of work.
This doesn't mean that if you have a successful website, you can't earn some money with it. Some people think they have a popular website when they get 30 visitors daily. They forget that half of those visitors are bots, friends, family and themselves. You aren't going to make a lot of money with few visitors. 3000 visitors may mean a few dollars of revenue or even more, but no excessive amounts, unless you are very lucky.
Advertisers are bidding on keywords on adwords, both for the google search results (higher prices) and for adsense. The highest bidding advertisers are shown first on all websites and will get most visitors. That's why they pay so much for it. So, if you have a website about a high-paying keyword, you might earn a lot per click.
But, here is the but, if those clicks are worth nothing, let's say they make no sales or whatever, then a mechanism of google comes in, it's called "smart pricing" and decreases the amount of money you get per click. So, you get a few cents instead of a dollar per click.
It is also very important not to "cheat" like clicking on your own ads or asking other people to click on them. It's illegal and a breach of their tos. If they catch you, you will get banned or even worse.
If you need more specific information about adsense, please tell me more specifically.
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Is that a little mini-mill in your avatar?
just to say as well (ive not tryed it yet because my site isnt finished) but remember your not going to get rich from running a site (very few people ever do) but adverts can be used to do things like pay for your hosting.
"$1 in 7 days Crying or Very sad then the next 7 days after that i made $5"
so say you make maybe $3 a week, thats at least money you can use to pay for a domain name / buy hosting with (not that you need it when you are here)
or maybe put it towards improving your site..
for example vBulletin is $160 for 1 licence (for ever) or $85 for a year. Now if you maybe save up your advert money over a few months (7) months will get you some nice forum software to use for a year. And with a better site you will get more traffic, so instead of paying yearly you can buy the $160 one and use nice forums forever. (if after you install the new forums you get more users and make $5 a week its going to take you 8 months and then you never have to pay for the forum again).. or you can spend the $85 for another year (and have $75 to spend on yourself )
look at it as a way to improve your site or at the very least keep it up and running, not a way to make money.
"$1 in 7 days Crying or Very sad then the next 7 days after that i made $5"
so say you make maybe $3 a week, thats at least money you can use to pay for a domain name / buy hosting with (not that you need it when you are here)
or maybe put it towards improving your site..
for example vBulletin is $160 for 1 licence (for ever) or $85 for a year. Now if you maybe save up your advert money over a few months (7) months will get you some nice forum software to use for a year. And with a better site you will get more traffic, so instead of paying yearly you can buy the $160 one and use nice forums forever. (if after you install the new forums you get more users and make $5 a week its going to take you 8 months and then you never have to pay for the forum again).. or you can spend the $85 for another year (and have $75 to spend on yourself )
look at it as a way to improve your site or at the very least keep it up and running, not a way to make money.
I'm looking into using Google Adsence, how much money do most people get a month here?
Thank-you.
Thank-you.
| LostOverThere wrote: |
| I'm looking into using Google Adsence, how much money do most people get a month here?
Thank-you. |
It is against the adsense terms of service to tell others what you make through adsense.
However if you wrok consistently on your site, the money starts to add up.
| Kit wrote: | ||
It is against the adsense terms of service to tell others what you make through adsense. However if you wrok consistently on your site, the money starts to add up. |
You are allowed to tell your global earnings, just not the details like CTR and eCPM. (They changed their TOS some time ago.)
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You are allowed to tell your global earnings, just not the details like CTR and eCPM. (They changed their TOS some time ago.) |
Aaaah thankyou for thanks for telling me. It seems I have been running on old information. I'll check my account and see if I have time to send a screenshot [with lovely Adobe censors] to show you my global earnings.
Would it be recomened to get it?
| Bickering_Blonde wrote: |
| Would it be recomened to get it? |
Yes I do reccomend you get this adsense program. While it takes a while for msot to reach payout, the service is reliable and consistence. Not to mention much more attractive than some of the alternatives.
Heres what I think:
Adsense are a very cool way to gain some money with your passion (the website)...of course you won´t get you money to buy an "apartment" but it would get you like enough money to buy your own domain.
I use them (i´m new in this), this is my first month and i have like $0.90 (but keep in mind that i just put them like a week and i didn´t get 5 visitors on my website on that week, and even keep them, i don´t know where to put them, so i will put them in just a few weeks), i will keep using them, they look good and ad content to my site, and i will have y site anyway, so why don´t earn some extra money for it.
Adsense are a very cool way to gain some money with your passion (the website)...of course you won´t get you money to buy an "apartment" but it would get you like enough money to buy your own domain.
I use them (i´m new in this), this is my first month and i have like $0.90 (but keep in mind that i just put them like a week and i didn´t get 5 visitors on my website on that week, and even keep them, i don´t know where to put them, so i will put them in just a few weeks), i will keep using them, they look good and ad content to my site, and i will have y site anyway, so why don´t earn some extra money for it.
If you get a couple of pounds a year or a few dollars I would be happy with that as it would easly pay for a first level domain name!
Have a look at my site, 
www.makaveliliveson.com !
I also have google adsense on it, and soon google search too.
I made sum money with it but got not yet reached the 100 dollar, you must need to reach, before they payout.
At least i have allready earned as much, as my two top .com domain registars costed me, this year ...
So yes it's better then nothing, and if you got traffic, you will also get click(s) on the ads, so then you get sum online income !
So my advise give it at least a try, i do 2
www.makaveliliveson.com !
I also have google adsense on it, and soon google search too.
I made sum money with it but got not yet reached the 100 dollar, you must need to reach, before they payout.
At least i have allready earned as much, as my two top .com domain registars costed me, this year ...
So yes it's better then nothing, and if you got traffic, you will also get click(s) on the ads, so then you get sum online income !
So my advise give it at least a try, i do 2
it really helps many sites to promote it 
It seems that because I check my adsense account in a public place, they have disqualified me. I believe they track the IP address of where I log in to my account, and they also track the IP of whoever clicks your ads. Even though I did no false clicking, etc., they believe that due to hits from other users from the same ip. GRR!
| bassgs_17 wrote: |
| It seems that because I check my adsense account in a public place, they have disqualified me. I believe they track the IP address of where I log in to my account, and they also track the IP of whoever clicks your ads. Even though I did no false clicking, etc., they believe that due to hits from other users from the same ip. GRR! |
Yeah, sometimes it's not a good idea to log in to your account on a public ip. But most likely that wasn't the issue. I suppose one of your friends wanted to "help" you a bit too much. And if those were the only or almost the only clicks you got ...
| bdoneck wrote: |
| Anyone have any tips on how to get more from adsense? I'm barely making anything and at this rate I might get $1 in a year. I have like 10,000 hits a day too. |
With 10,000 hits a day you should be making a bit of coin. Are you sure about your hit count? And also are you taking these stats from your Google Adsense reports, i.e. page impressions? What's the URL to the site you're talking about?
afew people has mentiond the price per click mine was at 30 cent per click mainley and at one pont it was nearing $1
I have let's say 200 uniques visitors per day and my site is 6 monts old. So far I had about 10 $ per mont with adsense and I earned 30 $ in last 10 days. I think that old pages perform better becouse google displays high ctr ads after some data from your site. And yes I almoust forgot I inserted one 728x15 ad at the botom of the page(one link contains 5 or more links opened in new window)
why don't you try this website to get your advertosements from some pay good and you can see the prices for the adverts you put on your site.
they look a lot better than the google ads aswell
have a look
www.tradedoubler.com
thanks
asiddle423
they look a lot better than the google ads aswell
have a look
www.tradedoubler.com
thanks
asiddle423
I don't bother with adsense. You won't make much revenue, visitors usually dislike it, and its just not worth the time.
No i dont use adsense but i use adbrite
here is my adds for an example
http://www.adbrite.com/mb/commerce/purchase_form.php?opid=46673&afsid=1
here is my adds for an example
http://www.adbrite.com/mb/commerce/purchase_form.php?opid=46673&afsid=1
I used Adsense for 6 months and got check for US$200 then some culprits made illegal clicks in my site and made me banned from adsense . You must place the advertisement in the right postion and relevant ad. Try to use text links ad which is more efficient than image ads. Best of luck.
. You must place the advertisement in the right postion and relevant ad. Try to use text links ad which is more efficient than image ads. Best of luck.I know it's wrong to ask people to out and out click on the ads displayed, but what is they are ask to.... ahem, "Visited our sponsers"?
Would this be considered unethical?
Would this be considered unethical?
| Phil wrote: |
| I know it's wrong to ask people to out and out click on the ads displayed, but what is they are ask to.... ahem, "Visited our sponsers"?
Would this be considered unethical? |
It is unethical, yes. What Google want to prevent is people clicking on the links for the sake of it and not actually browsing the sites. This helps no-one except you. If you were an advertiser, you would not be happy with this! AdSense provides "relevant" links to your content, by doing this it should attract a percentage of passing visitors. If you place the adverts correctly, people will click on them and you will start to earn money. You do need a fairly high volume site to make much though.
Well if that's the case, I just need to work on getting visitors to my site and hope for the best.
It just baffles me how some sites will get hundreds of hits a day, and when you visit them, they have absolutely no content.
Come to think of it, they did get me to visit!
It just baffles me how some sites will get hundreds of hits a day, and when you visit them, they have absolutely no content.
Come to think of it, they did get me to visit!
Yeah some website sprung just stuffedv with keywords and running on adsense. They are the ones with no content. I think the google jagger update was specifically for them. But googl;e has very strict policies and ban people really fast from adsense.
I wrote some tutorials about adsense.
What is Adsense?
http://gogleblogs.blogspot.com/2005/08/what-is-adsense-for.html
Making sense of Adesense.
http://gogleblogs.blogspot.com/2005/08/adsense-terms-and-conditions-explained.html
Whatever you do, don't get banned.
http://gogleblogs.blogspot.com/2005/08/how-to-get-banned-from-adsense-account.html
What is Adsense?
http://gogleblogs.blogspot.com/2005/08/what-is-adsense-for.html
Making sense of Adesense.
http://gogleblogs.blogspot.com/2005/08/adsense-terms-and-conditions-explained.html
Whatever you do, don't get banned.
http://gogleblogs.blogspot.com/2005/08/how-to-get-banned-from-adsense-account.html
I've been reading up a bit about this Google AdSense program; I browsed the main site and I read through this thread. All of the information was useful - however, I have yet to find any information regarding the payment (or lack thereof) of AdSense. So, while this may already be answered on the main site or in this thread, I could not find it; so, I'll ask, "does one have to pay for Google AdSense; or is it free?".
Thanks!
Thanks!
Ok, so does anyone know any good key words, or are you going to make me buy some software package?
i think its amazing i just started today and i already have $10
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| "does one have to pay for Google AdSense; or is it free?". |
It is free and anybody can join and put up ads on their site.
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| i think its amazing i just started today and i already have $10 |
I hope that you are not clicking youself on the ads. Or getting freinds to do that. just read the horror stories of getting banned from google.http://gogleblogs.blogspot.com/2005/08/how-to-get-banned-from-adsense-account.html
| bdoneck wrote: |
| EDIT by tidrug: There were far too many new threads on Adsense cropping up every now and then. I'm making this the official Adsense forum, and making it a sticky. Also adding the poll
Anyone have any tips on how to get more from adsense? I'm barely making anything and at this rate I might get $1 in a year. I have like 10,000 hits a day too. |
10,000 hits a day... Get out of town!
We run a major site and have a pretty good budget and quality content. We have nowhere near 10,000 hits a day. That would require some serious promotional advertising. If you are getting that many hits and are not making any money, then you have the wrong product or service. That would be very sad to my boss if we made no money on 30,000 plus hits every month or 120,000 potential customers a year! That's a good business flow. Get cracking on some ideas and don't be afraid to ask for money! You might not get it, because people are spoiled on the Internet, but figure if somehow you got $1.00 in revenue from those 120,000 visitors, you would have a pretty good income. Let's get wierd for a minute and say that you could get a quarter from every person some way. That's still $30,000 a year. More than a lot of people make working regular jobs. But if you are into making dough on the Net, then it has to be like a job to you. It's hard I know, but it can be done. There is no such thing as a "Get Rich Quick" method. It requires work and dedication to the cause. But what It really requires is a PASSION about the subject of your service or product. Get something that you love so much you just can't set it down! That's why I am in the toughest business to get into... Music! Why? Because I just dig it so much that working is like going to the movies everyday! I love what I do and I do it all night long sometimes! When I worked at other jobs man, quitting time meant; Out of HERE! Not so anymore. I might post my behind off here and go send out 20 emails before bed, or check stats, or write up a review, etc. That's what happens when the passion is there! I never had it before. Heard about it, read about it in all the self help stuff, but now I know what it means!
I'll help anybody write quality content or come up with cool ideas. If they help me out by word of mouth advertising about my business and so forth. I can set aside some time to help out. Not as much as in the past, but some. I know not many of us have a lot of money for start up costs. That's what networking will fix if you do what you say you will do for the other person! Too many people today drop the ball at "Critical Mass," right when things are about to happen. They get impatient in this "Hurry up and give me what I want now!" world. But, look at the farmer. He has to break ground, plant seeds and wait, wait, water, water, wait, wait and harvest! That's how everything is done. I got wealthy really fast once, it went away just as fast... Easy come, easy go.
I just read that spread on getting "Banned" by Google and their lack of interest in your plight, etc. I'm sorry, but Google needs some serious competition from somewhere. If you think Microsoft is bad, I am telling you that Google has more power and more ways to get information about you and screw you over than Microsoft could ever dream about! But don't believe me, just keep your eyes open and don't say I didn't warn you!
I'll try their adsense stuff for awhile, but I am very leary of companies that are trying to dominate the way business is done on the Net. I have no problem with business, just overbearing corporate idolatry that we find so mesmerizing is very dangerous when abused. And I am seeing the possiblilty written all over the wall on this one! Way more so than with Microsoft. Be like the Cobra and make sure that "Charmer" knows full well that one bite from you kills! Otherwise they own you...
I am not using it.They don't accept my site
$10 a day! lol...i think i only get like $0.1x a week!
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| $10 a day! lol...i think i only get like $0.1x a week! |
There is no way anyone can just start today ands earn $10 today.
Does google pay for impressions 
| vignesh_natraj wrote: |
| Does google pay for impressions |
Only for some ads, mostly Pay-Per-Click ads are shown
i use google ads too, and i just made 1.35USD in 3 days!
so i think its great!
McCoy - www.eXploder.frih.net
so i think its great!
McCoy - www.eXploder.frih.net
I just started to use Google Adsense. But from the looks of it. It is pretty good so far.
i made 26$ in less than 2 weeks!
so cant se why other ppl cant earn anything!
so cant se why other ppl cant earn anything!
| Mr. McCoy wrote: |
| i made 26$ in less than 2 weeks!
so cant se why other ppl cant earn anything! |
Mr McCoy - How many visitors do you get to your site to earn that much? You must have a busy site. Either that or you are clicking your own links; in which case Google will ban you.
i had 3000 visits in 3 days
and i did'nt click ONCE myself
nut i got banned couse one stupid kid somewhere was clicking all the time...
crap google!...
and i did'nt click ONCE myself
nut i got banned couse one stupid kid somewhere was clicking all the time...
crap google!...
| Mr. McCoy wrote: |
| i had 3000 visits in 3 days
and i did'nt click ONCE myself nut i got banned couse one stupid kid somewhere was clicking all the time... crap google!... |
1000 visits a day is quite a lot. Most people don't get that many, sio it explains why you got a reasonable income.
yea i know... but it was only for the 3 days period!..hehe...
now i have like 200-300 a day!... and still only 22 members... GOSH!
im trying to talk to Google about re-activating my account! the banners acctually looked GOOD on my site... hehe!
McCoy
now i have like 200-300 a day!... and still only 22 members... GOSH!
im trying to talk to Google about re-activating my account! the banners acctually looked GOOD on my site... hehe!
McCoy
| Mr. McCoy wrote: |
| i use google ads too, and i just made 1.35USD in 3 days!
so i think its great! McCoy - www.eXploder.frih.net |
From this post I can understand that you probably get 20 to 30 visitors a day. And suddenly the following thing happen. This is abnormal.
| Mr. McCoy wrote: |
| i had 3000 visits in 3 days
and i did'nt click ONCE myself nut i got banned couse one stupid kid somewhere was clicking all the time... crap google!... |
If your site average visitors is hovering around 1000 (one thousand) Google will know through impression and others. But if you just get 3000 visitors in 3 days but the other days were comparatively very less, then doubt can arise easily.
I like google, atleast it will buy me a domain.
visits and visitors is 2 things...
i had 3000 VISITS in 3 days... not visitors... one visitor can have more than one visit..
i had 3000 VISITS in 3 days... not visitors... one visitor can have more than one visit..
I don't know if adsense is the way to go. Now, whenever I see a little white box with some blue and black text in it, I automatically assume it is from Google. Such as the tabbed "Description", "Best Deals", "Search" box doesn't draw my attention. A little tip would be to have products come to you. Try to get some companies to come to you with their ideas, and you make them yourself. Banners still draw more attention than Google Ads, so that's probably the best advertising scheme. Use bright (but not hard on the eyes) colors that you can easily recognize. Make sure they contrast against the color of your website. Such as on this forum, the blue/white/black colors don't draw my attention when there is plenty of other blue/white/black on other parts of the site. Make the advertisement orange with a bit of red and yellow. Use white if it looks good. Make your ad look important. These hot colors are known for drawing people's attention.
Some days I get $45 some days I get $3 - 4. Some sites get very high CPM, others quite low. If your site is geared to a decent niche and you have good keyword optimization on the page so adsense can adjust the ads to your content you'll get get clicks.
Get you page optimized the same as you would for SEs, so the google page reader can place the right germain ads. Get traffic. Making money with adsense is about generating traffic. Take it slow, provide good content with keywords in the title, some h1 and h2 tags. Then go after the traffic.place an ad above the fold and/or along the left side of your page, maybe one at the bottom of the text on your page.
if you've got good keyword rich content but the headings and title are off the mark, you'll get ads that do not interest your visitors.
Guess i'm not aloowed to say but i get very good CTR on most sites some of them are payng large per click rates.
Get you page optimized the same as you would for SEs, so the google page reader can place the right germain ads. Get traffic. Making money with adsense is about generating traffic. Take it slow, provide good content with keywords in the title, some h1 and h2 tags. Then go after the traffic.place an ad above the fold and/or along the left side of your page, maybe one at the bottom of the text on your page.
if you've got good keyword rich content but the headings and title are off the mark, you'll get ads that do not interest your visitors.
Guess i'm not aloowed to say but i get very good CTR on most sites some of them are payng large per click rates.
If you offer a quality website that offers users valuble needs, try a donation button from paypal. Someone who really likes ur website might throw you a dollar. Adsense might pick up slight revenue but if your looking for easy cash online then look for online survey sites, you can make about 200 dollars in a month if you really put ur mind to it.
I just put adsense on my site last night...somehow i had 10 visitors or so and a couple of clicks, and made $3. I'm thinking this is some sort of mistake...i was expecting a couple of cents or something. But at this rate, hey, might as well put in on all my pages...any good tips for increasing clicks? Check it out at www.hykerboyz.com. Thanks.
| kam311 wrote: |
| I just put adsense on my site last night...somehow i had 10 visitors or so and a couple of clicks, and made $3. I'm thinking this is some sort of mistake...i was expecting a couple of cents or something. But at this rate, hey, might as well put in on all my pages...any good tips for increasing clicks? Check it out at www.hykerboyz.com. Thanks. |
How mcuh you earn really depends on the keywords on your page. If you have much sought after keywords, then people will pay more to get an ad on your page than if your site has little of interest. I have seen some pages get up to $2 per click, whereas others can give as little as 1cent. I also find that you tend to get a higher click rate and cost per click on AdSense for Search, rather than AdSense for Content.
| vignesh_natraj wrote: |
| I am not using it.They don't accept my site |
Why they don't accept your site?
I didn't read the whole replies but I did read first 5 or 6...
people I got to tell you onething... as a webmaster putting ads... our main aim is to get as many visitors to click on this.... and The most easy way to do is... place your ads inside a test line or an article... like at the end or middle something... so after looking at the whole content... people would think.. this is a link related to this article and some of them wouldn't even know about it... I am not talking about putting big banners in the middle of articles but the small 5 links or 4 links thingi... It is very effective and clever... try it and let me know.. what improvement you got...
people I got to tell you onething... as a webmaster putting ads... our main aim is to get as many visitors to click on this.... and The most easy way to do is... place your ads inside a test line or an article... like at the end or middle something... so after looking at the whole content... people would think.. this is a link related to this article and some of them wouldn't even know about it... I am not talking about putting big banners in the middle of articles but the small 5 links or 4 links thingi... It is very effective and clever... try it and let me know.. what improvement you got...
| bdoneck wrote: |
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I have like 10,000 hits a day too. |
Bullsh**, i don´t belive you that are you so lame. With 10K+ Hits a day you can make a living out of it. Just provide quality content and you´re sorted.
Diebels
Is adsense good for an online game site? Like an rpg type game even if there isn't a whole lot of content besides maybe a forum?
I'm making a game and just wanted to start looking at some options.
I'm making a game and just wanted to start looking at some options.
Are there any requirement to how many hits you have to sign up?
Nothing like that.
but your site must be finished and have no broken links.
no porn, illegal stuff, drugs..............
Also if your site doesnt generate any revenue for 3 or so months, they might exclude your site
but your site must be finished and have no broken links.
no porn, illegal stuff, drugs..............
Also if your site doesnt generate any revenue for 3 or so months, they might exclude your site
Ok here is what happend to me.
I had google adsense on my subdomains here at frihost, but in months only a few clicks, nothing much really, but then i bought a few domains and parked them here. Then more people came to visit my site due to the domainname i have. Finally people started clicking on the google ads and my account gained money.
Imagine my happiness, i was making some money with my sites and effort. Well they should pay out when your account reach $100.- or more before the 15th of the month. That day arrived, my account reached even $105 dollar that day, i was really happy. But when i woke up next morning i had mail from google adsense, telling me they deleted my account due to illigal clicks.. Well i don't know how they can fool everybody with that. No clicks from me, so who did click the ads illigal? Then i wrote them a letter asking why they did this, they replied with a mail saying the wont reveal their reasons or anything else due to their algoritm bla bla. So they didn't pay out a cent to me. Then someone i know, another webmaster got an account also, i told him not to click on ads and also not to promote people to click on the ads either. Guess what? Same thing happend to him also, his account got deleted due to illigal clicks also...
Well if more people have this, then it's the biggest scam ever!!!
If a million people have an adsense account and they delete just 10% of those accounts due to illigal clicks thats 100.000 accounts x$100,- or more =$10.000.000,- profit for google Thats ten million bucks people, made from your websites!!!!
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Then i wanted to add something to my former post also.
All those companies saying they will get your site toplisted at google and anywhere else. Do you really believe that **** also??
I bet those companies are working for google also, getting even more money out of our pockets. Still not convinced??
There is so much to read these days about seo's and sure, lots of people could use some help with their websites, but the way they sell it, it's pure bullshit.
If 4 same companies with same sevices and products would do that, who would be higher listed? They all want to be #1 right? It's not their formula or the use of their keywords, they sure help, but there is a lot more to it to get your site #1 in Google.
Try dragonsims as searchquery in google i bet i'm #1, Not because i'm that good, but this time it's in the name.
So think twice before you let you clean your pockets by these companies..
I had google adsense on my subdomains here at frihost, but in months only a few clicks, nothing much really, but then i bought a few domains and parked them here. Then more people came to visit my site due to the domainname i have. Finally people started clicking on the google ads and my account gained money.
Imagine my happiness, i was making some money with my sites and effort. Well they should pay out when your account reach $100.- or more before the 15th of the month. That day arrived, my account reached even $105 dollar that day, i was really happy. But when i woke up next morning i had mail from google adsense, telling me they deleted my account due to illigal clicks.. Well i don't know how they can fool everybody with that. No clicks from me, so who did click the ads illigal? Then i wrote them a letter asking why they did this, they replied with a mail saying the wont reveal their reasons or anything else due to their algoritm bla bla. So they didn't pay out a cent to me. Then someone i know, another webmaster got an account also, i told him not to click on ads and also not to promote people to click on the ads either. Guess what? Same thing happend to him also, his account got deleted due to illigal clicks also...
Well if more people have this, then it's the biggest scam ever!!!
If a million people have an adsense account and they delete just 10% of those accounts due to illigal clicks thats 100.000 accounts x$100,- or more =$10.000.000,- profit for google Thats ten million bucks people, made from your websites!!!!
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Then i wanted to add something to my former post also.
| Animal wrote: |
| Then use the Edit button. Please don't double post - I've merged these two topics. |
All those companies saying they will get your site toplisted at google and anywhere else. Do you really believe that **** also??
I bet those companies are working for google also, getting even more money out of our pockets. Still not convinced??
There is so much to read these days about seo's and sure, lots of people could use some help with their websites, but the way they sell it, it's pure bullshit.
If 4 same companies with same sevices and products would do that, who would be higher listed? They all want to be #1 right? It's not their formula or the use of their keywords, they sure help, but there is a lot more to it to get your site #1 in Google.
Try dragonsims as searchquery in google i bet i'm #1, Not because i'm that good, but this time it's in the name.
So think twice before you let you clean your pockets by these companies..
I agree with everyword you say Gerardus/
But as I say we are powerless here.
We cant do a thing
The best would of course be to change advertisers or sit and mumble
But as I say we are powerless here.
We cant do a thing
The best would of course be to change advertisers or sit and mumble
| scorpio wrote: |
| I agree with everyword you say Gerardus/
But as I say we are powerless here. We cant do a thing The best would of course be to change advertisers or sit and mumble |
We are not completly powerless scorpio. Not alone, but together we can.
Google had a few lawsuits allready and paid off 90 million dollar to settle. That should say something, don't you agree?
Maybe i will set up a site for it or something, and if it really hits the roof with people complaining about Google, then i will write those newspapers again, this time with more results and more people to back up the stories.
heres my question about this google adsense, can you have more than one ads that are different styles on your site? Say you want to have a banner of ads on the top of your site. Does that mean you can't have any vertical ads anywhere on the site too? Can you only use one referal product?
I got a question, Can you only have one type on ad banner on your site? Say that you have a horizontal banner, that means you can't have a vertical banner? That seems pretty odd....any suggestions? I have a banner above my banner, and im trying to put vertical ads on the side. Its not letting me, their not appearing. Let me know, thanks.
| NjRocket wrote: |
| I got a question, Can you only have one type on ad banner on your site? Say that you have a horizontal banner, that means you can't have a vertical banner? That seems pretty odd....any suggestions? I have a banner above my banner, and im trying to put vertical ads on the side. Its not letting me, their not appearing. Let me know, thanks. |
You can mix and match different Adsense ads on one page if you want. You just can't have competing, similar ads from a different company.
| Gerardus™ wrote: | ||
We are not completly powerless scorpio. Not alone, but together we can. Google had a few lawsuits allready and paid off 90 million dollar to settle. That should say something, don't you agree? Maybe i will set up a site for it or something, and if it really hits the roof with people complaining about Google, then i will write those newspapers again, this time with more results and more people to back up the stories. |
True, but is this payoff related to the site called something like googleadsensesucks.com ..
I remember visiting it..
| Gerardus™ wrote: | ||
We are not completly powerless scorpio. Not alone, but together we can. Google had a few lawsuits allready and paid off 90 million dollar to settle. That should say something, don't you agree? Maybe i will set up a site for it or something, and if it really hits the roof with people complaining about Google, then i will write those newspapers again, this time with more results and more people to back up the stories. |
Hey I was gonna do that, if you need help just ask me. Or if you need people to participate I'm here. I too got banned, it was only like 5 days after I got my account and I only had 8 dollars. I seriously didn't click any ads.
I found a blog which contains top paying google adsense keywords. Am i allowed to post them here.
| Hobbit wrote: | ||||
Hey I was gonna do that, if you need help just ask me. Or if you need people to participate I'm here. I too got banned, it was only like 5 days after I got my account and I only had 8 dollars. I seriously didn't click any ads. |
If I am to be banned it will be a few years. I have the account for 15 days now and have made 15 cents. Whoah! I am gonna be richer than google soon at this rate.
| justup2002 wrote: |
| i think its amazing i just started today and i already have $10 |
How the heck is that even possible?!?
| adsense reports wrote: |
| Total Earnings $2.61 |
That's all I got, and I've been with them for like 3 or 4 weeks now
.@bladesage:
The person got 10$, what happens next?
He gets banned, thats what.
Google banned a guy for getting 5 bucks within 5 days of starting his account though he did not click on any ad.
How are they gonna believe it
The person got 10$, what happens next?
He gets banned, thats what.
Google banned a guy for getting 5 bucks within 5 days of starting his account though he did not click on any ad.
How are they gonna believe it
I might get my account back up, maybe even with the money I made. I told them the increase of clicks, was due to the increase of traffic. Since my adsense account was pretty much inactive for months, then all of a sudden I started using it. I gave them a lot of proof, and they emailed me back saying they would review my account.
| scorpio wrote: |
| @bladesage:
The person got 10$, what happens next? He gets banned, thats what. Google banned a guy for getting 5 bucks within 5 days of starting his account though he did not click on any ad. How are they gonna believe it |
This shouldn't happen if click rates are maintained from new IPs all the time. So long as the click through ratio is normal, and the clicks are not coming from the same visitors, then there is no reason for Google to ban them.
Google Adsense sucks! Prove that you make any real money with it! I think it makes sites look cheap and ugly. Plus that, half the time they are advertising the same damn stuff that you sell on your site.
I thought about trying it. Known lots of people who have. Not one of them can really prove that they make any real money off of it. And I don't mean a hundred dollars either, that's not REAL money for the intrusive nature of Beast known as Google. I hate Google, but I love their search engine.
Love, hate, love, hate, love... HATE IT! Yahoo is a bunch of YAHOO's too!
They own the Internet AND THEY OWN YOU! Listen to the whining about getting accepted and kissing their behind to get noticed. They rank your site with no explaination other than "Because we can!" They own the Internet and THEY make the rules. That sucks! And what, for $10.00 bucks here and there. No thanks!
And plus that it don't make a difference how many hits on your site you get, it's click throughs... And most people don't even bother! Plus that, it's taking your visitor away from your site and possibly to a site just like yours. For what? A nickel? Right! How lame is that?
It's too bad the Internet hasn't become more that a damn Billboard! That is the only way to make a dollar on most sites.
And if you do get "Banned" from the almighty, all encompassing, Google for some lame reason, you can't kiss their behind enough to get back in their good graces. It's a scam and and damn fine one at that!
Sheep to slaughter... That's what it is. Baaaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaa
I thought about trying it. Known lots of people who have. Not one of them can really prove that they make any real money off of it. And I don't mean a hundred dollars either, that's not REAL money for the intrusive nature of Beast known as Google. I hate Google, but I love their search engine.
Love, hate, love, hate, love... HATE IT! Yahoo is a bunch of YAHOO's too!
They own the Internet AND THEY OWN YOU! Listen to the whining about getting accepted and kissing their behind to get noticed. They rank your site with no explaination other than "Because we can!" They own the Internet and THEY make the rules. That sucks! And what, for $10.00 bucks here and there. No thanks!
And plus that it don't make a difference how many hits on your site you get, it's click throughs... And most people don't even bother! Plus that, it's taking your visitor away from your site and possibly to a site just like yours. For what? A nickel? Right! How lame is that?
It's too bad the Internet hasn't become more that a damn Billboard! That is the only way to make a dollar on most sites.
And if you do get "Banned" from the almighty, all encompassing, Google for some lame reason, you can't kiss their behind enough to get back in their good graces. It's a scam and and damn fine one at that!
Sheep to slaughter... That's what it is. Baaaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaa
My thread had been closed twice and so please people help me at the only thread available to discuss this matter of very urgent nature. This is the message
I just want to ask everyone that if i put up 2 ads on each page and if a person just VIEWS those pages while reaching up his goal to make 250 posts from his account at the forum, then how much am I expected get if I use Adsense.
Anticipating a prompt response.
Warm Regards,
I just want to ask everyone that if i put up 2 ads on each page and if a person just VIEWS those pages while reaching up his goal to make 250 posts from his account at the forum, then how much am I expected get if I use Adsense.
Anticipating a prompt response.
Warm Regards,
| toughtrio wrote: |
| My thread had been closed twice and so please people help me at the only thread available to discuss this matter of very urgent nature. This is the message
I just want to ask everyone that if i put up 2 ads on each page and if a person just VIEWS those pages while reaching up his goal to make 250 posts from his account at the forum, then how much am I expected get if I use Adsense. Anticipating a prompt response. Warm Regards, |
You could make 100 dollars or 0 dollars. It all depends on whether your visitors click the ads or not. There is no set amount. Its with any site, you got to get visitors that click the ads. Some sites pay some small bucks for every thousand page impressions, but not google. Hope this helps ya, there is no way to predict your amount you bring in.
That's because it's a joke! Free advertising for Google and they charge everybody else.
I give you my criteria:
I can have a site with many visitors, but no one wanting to click on any ads, but they donot have a problem if the ads are just shown. Anyone please suggest me which advertiser should I choose and what do I do in order to get the most out of it.
I heard adsense isnt givin the Cost per 1000 impressions revenue now, or whatever you get from it is negligible.
Anyways, please do give me a decent reply.
Warm Regards,
I can have a site with many visitors, but no one wanting to click on any ads, but they donot have a problem if the ads are just shown. Anyone please suggest me which advertiser should I choose and what do I do in order to get the most out of it.
I heard adsense isnt givin the Cost per 1000 impressions revenue now, or whatever you get from it is negligible.
Anyways, please do give me a decent reply.
Warm Regards,
| toughtrio wrote: |
| I give you my criteria:
I can have a site with many visitors, but no one wanting to click on any ads, but they donot have a problem if the ads are just shown. Anyone please suggest me which advertiser should I choose and what do I do in order to get the most out of it. I heard adsense isnt givin the Cost per 1000 impressions revenue now, or whatever you get from it is negligible. Anyways, please do give me a decent reply. Warm Regards, |
Its a simple answer, the revenue for both you and the provider comes from clicks. You will make 90% of your revenue or even more from clicks. The cost per impression is just a little side bonus some give you. Can we see your site?
Sounds like Google has you in their back pocket. You really believe in this nonsense? Then PROVE you really make money! Scan a check and let us see it. Bet you don't make squat! Why BS about it?
Oh yeah, I went to your Sport site. Nice site for sure. You're all Googled up! Even on your index page, imagine that! So is that your only income? If so, show us how much money you make. Talk is really cheap!
And why don't you tell people that they have to have a good site to make money. Google or no Google. If you have lame content you are not going to get click throughs!
Here is the REAL DEAL people!
The average visitor has to visit a site between 8-10 times to feel comfortable enough to click through on ANY ad! It doesn't have to be Schmoogle either, ANY AD. As long as it is something that interests them or is a product they might need. You are better off affiliating with a company that sells product that people on your site relate to then you are Google ads. Why? Because they either pay a percentage of the sale, sometimes 50% or more, or they pay a standard commission per sale, say 4-5-10-20 or however many dollars. Yeah, they actually have to BUY something, but if you are willing to just settle for dimes and nickels then you are better off begging a Circle K. People need to buy something to create revenue. They bought that Google ad, so they bought something. Problem is, you can get penalized for "apparent" infractions that may or may not have been infractions at all! And they will not listen to you no matter how much nutt kissing and pleading you do. Megalomaniacs is what they have become. That is why they are on my "To be watched" list of companies that have completely taken control of a market. They have something illegal going on and it will be known one day.
So why not make your own text ads with affiliates who PAY, and fashion them like the oh so ever present Schpoogle or queerbank ads? Then you make a descent amount for every sale. Google rips you off by making it almost impossible to qualify and taking the lions share of the payola! Then they penalize you if you have too many click throughs? What kind of garbage is that? The way I just described to you is more legit and pays better overall.
Google is ok if you have a Sports site, with solid return visitors. But if you have some average gamer site or some other "average" site people will not respond. Remember, they have to be regular visitors in the 8-10 times ratio to even consider clicking through, if ever at all. So take that one to the bank!
Plus that, there are so many other cool companies out there. Google's head is too fat for my tastes. But hey, that's up to you I guess. I just think it amounts to laziness. No one wants to really research anything.
Here... Try this company: http://www.adknowledge.com/publishers.php
They seem like they might have something on the ball.
So you might wonder "Why is this guy upset?" I'm not. I don't care if you Google yourself silly! I just think you should know both sides of the story and not be led by the nose into believing that Google has anything good up their sleeve. They control so much data and so many databases that they are dangerous! There is no oversight, no one watching them. Everybody just thinks they are so "Wonderful" and so forth.
"Power corrupts. Absolute Power corrupts absolutely!" It is time to even out the playing field. We live in a Republic that dictates NO MONOPOLIES! And Google is stepping into that territory.
You have been warned. Go ahead and ignore me, I could care less, but you have been told what you need to know.
Now Google up everybody!
Oh yeah, I went to your Sport site. Nice site for sure. You're all Googled up! Even on your index page, imagine that! So is that your only income? If so, show us how much money you make. Talk is really cheap!
And why don't you tell people that they have to have a good site to make money. Google or no Google. If you have lame content you are not going to get click throughs!
Here is the REAL DEAL people!
The average visitor has to visit a site between 8-10 times to feel comfortable enough to click through on ANY ad! It doesn't have to be Schmoogle either, ANY AD. As long as it is something that interests them or is a product they might need. You are better off affiliating with a company that sells product that people on your site relate to then you are Google ads. Why? Because they either pay a percentage of the sale, sometimes 50% or more, or they pay a standard commission per sale, say 4-5-10-20 or however many dollars. Yeah, they actually have to BUY something, but if you are willing to just settle for dimes and nickels then you are better off begging a Circle K. People need to buy something to create revenue. They bought that Google ad, so they bought something. Problem is, you can get penalized for "apparent" infractions that may or may not have been infractions at all! And they will not listen to you no matter how much nutt kissing and pleading you do. Megalomaniacs is what they have become. That is why they are on my "To be watched" list of companies that have completely taken control of a market. They have something illegal going on and it will be known one day.
So why not make your own text ads with affiliates who PAY, and fashion them like the oh so ever present Schpoogle or queerbank ads? Then you make a descent amount for every sale. Google rips you off by making it almost impossible to qualify and taking the lions share of the payola! Then they penalize you if you have too many click throughs? What kind of garbage is that? The way I just described to you is more legit and pays better overall.
Google is ok if you have a Sports site, with solid return visitors. But if you have some average gamer site or some other "average" site people will not respond. Remember, they have to be regular visitors in the 8-10 times ratio to even consider clicking through, if ever at all. So take that one to the bank!
Plus that, there are so many other cool companies out there. Google's head is too fat for my tastes. But hey, that's up to you I guess. I just think it amounts to laziness. No one wants to really research anything.
Here... Try this company: http://www.adknowledge.com/publishers.php
They seem like they might have something on the ball.
So you might wonder "Why is this guy upset?" I'm not. I don't care if you Google yourself silly! I just think you should know both sides of the story and not be led by the nose into believing that Google has anything good up their sleeve. They control so much data and so many databases that they are dangerous! There is no oversight, no one watching them. Everybody just thinks they are so "Wonderful" and so forth.
"Power corrupts. Absolute Power corrupts absolutely!" It is time to even out the playing field. We live in a Republic that dictates NO MONOPOLIES! And Google is stepping into that territory.
You have been warned. Go ahead and ignore me, I could care less, but you have been told what you need to know.
Now Google up everybody!
@Nj Rocket
I visited your site, and I was curious to know how much do you make per month off of adsense?
I visited your site, and I was curious to know how much do you make per month off of adsense?
Its in the TOS to not show or say the total amount you make in a month, its near nothing guys, don't worry. I strongly agree with what your saying, the point is if you don't like google, i guess you can just switch. Other sites out there are average but not as good. When you are the dominant company in your field, you have the power to do what ever you want. Its just how it is ya know. Tons of sites have google adsense on them, i also agree with what your saying. The problem with that is contacting a sports company and they also have to like what you have. Its tough, but you could land a deal.
| NjRocket wrote: |
| Its in the TOS to not show or say the total amount you make in a month, its near nothing guys, don't worry. I strongly agree with what your saying, the point is if you don't like google, i guess you can just switch. Other sites out there are average but not as good. When you are the dominant company in your field, you have the power to do what ever you want. Its just how it is ya know. Tons of sites have google adsense on them, i also agree with what your saying. The problem with that is contacting a sports company and they also have to like what you have. Its tough, but you could land a deal. |
Wow! Your a pretty nice person. I like your attitude and respect you way more now for sure. Very nice.
It's funny how they restrict you from saying how much you make. Why do you think that is? Because they can! Simple as that! It is mainly because nobody would go throught the hassle if they knew how little is really being made. But they still get there ad dollars from the impressions, so what do they care? Unless you have high end loyal traffic, you make diddly. What I mean by "loyal" is people who know that is how you derive your income. I mean, it's really no skin of their nuts to click an ad or two, in fact I do it all the time because I know that sites make money, and why not help them out? Or in a case such as this forum, I feel it is my payment, my dues for getting a good deal on some webspace. If the rest of you don't pay your dues, then shame on you!
Look NjRocket, I like you man, you seem to want to help people and that is way cool. It was never anything personal, and you are strong enough to know that. That is definitely something I admire. I can learn a lot from you on that level.
I think I want to explore this aspect of website ownership more. Look into more opportunities as well as how to totally trick out your Adsense stuff. There are all kinds of things, like choosing the right ads. Sometimes though it still boils down to loyalty from your visitors.
I don't like Google, or Yahoo, or any of them too much anymore. I don't use their garbage if I can help it, and I really wish it wasn't necessary for them to spider through some of my Internet stuff. I hate that aspect of what they do. I liked it better when you submitted to them rather then having them spy on you and dictate what is good or not.
I used to think they were really something until they got greedy and domineering, which is ALWAYS the case. I hate the fact that they own the Internet, and you have to adhere to their stupid policies if you want ranking or a couple of pennies from a few ads. It is an interesting study for sure. I have never really been that angry at Microsoft, I know how to get around them. But Google has us all by the neck and they are choking the life right out of us, and we just let them do it!
You wouldn't mind me commenting on this thread would you? I mean, I already kinda put my two cents in, but I think I can contribute something positive as well.
Are you up for that?
| Diebels wrote: | ||
Bullsh**, i don´t belive you that are you so lame. With 10K+ Hits a day you can make a living out of it. Just provide quality content and you´re sorted. Diebels |
I don't believe the guy gets 10,000 hits a day either, but you can get that many hits and still make very little. I have seen it many times. So calling him lame is pretty much calling yourself the same thing.
THanx everyone for the responses.
Hey, donot get fooled by that stupid sports site, thats just something I tested in a Frontpage Template to check if the Extensions are working.
Thanx LARIDGE for all you allowed me to understand about Adsense, why let them pioneer and make a foolout of us.
So, if I put up a good site with some vvisitors, HOW CAN I MAKE EVEN VERY LITTLE MONE FROM IT. I JUST NEED TO MAKE MONEY CUZ AT MY PLACE THERE ARE NO SUMMER JOBS AND NO FF RESTAURANTS NEED STUDENTS OF MY AGE.
PLEASE ADVICE ME OF A SITE THAT REALLY PAYS!!!
Warm Regards,
Hey, donot get fooled by that stupid sports site, thats just something I tested in a Frontpage Template to check if the Extensions are working.
Thanx LARIDGE for all you allowed me to understand about Adsense, why let them pioneer and make a foolout of us.
So, if I put up a good site with some vvisitors, HOW CAN I MAKE EVEN VERY LITTLE MONE FROM IT. I JUST NEED TO MAKE MONEY CUZ AT MY PLACE THERE ARE NO SUMMER JOBS AND NO FF RESTAURANTS NEED STUDENTS OF MY AGE.
PLEASE ADVICE ME OF A SITE THAT REALLY PAYS!!!
Warm Regards,
| toughtrio wrote: |
| THanx everyone for the responses.
Hey, donot get fooled by that stupid sports site, thats just something I tested in a Frontpage Template to check if the Extensions are working. Thanx LARIDGE for all you allowed me to understand about Adsense, why let them pioneer and make a foolout of us. So, if I put up a good site with some vvisitors, HOW CAN I MAKE EVEN VERY LITTLE MONE FROM IT. I JUST NEED TO MAKE MONEY CUZ AT MY PLACE THERE ARE NO SUMMER JOBS AND NO FF RESTAURANTS NEED STUDENTS OF MY AGE. PLEASE ADVICE ME OF A SITE THAT REALLY PAYS!!! Warm Regards, |
There is no site that really really pays. Thats mainly the whole point of this thread. Not to be mean but think about it, if there was a way people were making tons of money or anthing at all on the interenet, everybody would be copying them right now. It just isnt out there yet to make money through ads on your site. Get great content and forums so people will be able to enjoy your site. Hey, once in a while they might see an ad they like and they click it lol. So i mean, just try to work your website first than worry about that ads. I think adbrite is a better setup because you can set the price of the ads. As of now, i guess im stuck with google. No complaints yet.
| toughtrio wrote: |
| THanx everyone for the responses.
Hey, donot get fooled by that stupid sports site, thats just something I tested in a Frontpage Template to check if the Extensions are working. Thanx LARIDGE for all you allowed me to understand about Adsense, why let them pioneer and make a foolout of us. So, if I put up a good site with some vvisitors, HOW CAN I MAKE EVEN VERY LITTLE MONE FROM IT. I JUST NEED TO MAKE MONEY CUZ AT MY PLACE THERE ARE NO SUMMER JOBS AND NO FF RESTAURANTS NEED STUDENTS OF MY AGE. PLEASE ADVICE ME OF A SITE THAT REALLY PAYS!!! Warm Regards, |
What is needed to create an income is a legit service of some sort. Something that has substance, a bite, and something you are DIRECTLY involved in either producing, or you are a middle agent towards it's delivery. And, it should have mass appeal, or be so unique (niche) that not many people deliver this product or service.
Don't be too harsh on "Stupid Sport" sites. People love sports, no doubt! It is a great attraction. Your content and your theme is an attraction. Nj has a nice site and I am sure it gets hits, but more important it needs return visitors.
As mentioned earlier, you have to have loyal visitors or members, and they will be more likely to click through an ad. It doesn't matter who produces the ad. The initial thrust of Google Adsense was to put impressions of similiar items matched up with the site theme, or the customers wording in a thread or post. That is not a bad thing. So the premise of Google/ClickBank or Yahoo ads is not entirely wrong. My position on these companies is from a standpoint of the greediness factor and the Nazi style implementation of their rules. Their dominance over our productivity on the Internet also bothers me quite a bit. Be that as it may, it is much like anything else... "The only way to beat the game, is you must be in the game to start with!" That is a personal quote from me, but you get the picture.
So getting back to NJ's point, which was that the Internet is currently not designed for making money other than advertising (which I think was the jest), then let's just agree with that for now and say that is true. (which it is.) What can we do about that?
Most would say "Not much." I say that we can turn this over into another realm of thinking. Advertising means what? Product of some kind. So what are you advertising? Someone elses product. Ok, so that means that someone, somewhere, is selling something to someone.
So the truth is most likely that the Internet CAN be a tool to sell products and services. It is in the design of the marketing plan that creates a revenue stream. What that means simply is that there are components or a "Food Chain" in marketing something. You have the creator of the product, the idea person, you have a producer who manufacturs a product, you have a wholesaler or jobber who sells to a retailer, then finally you have a retailer. Marketing 101, right?
But the key component lies in where you fall in the food chain. While breaking down the pieces and parts of the chain, you will often find that everybody makes relatively the same amount of money per the amount of energy expended. Even if the numbers are larger, take into account that the manufacturer may have more money on paper, but they have to expend more energy to produce a product, so it is relative or roughly the same profit margin.
So here in lies the problem. As a Google Ad hoc person, you are barely in the food chain at all! You don't handle a product, produce one or actually sell one. So your energy expended is so minimal it shows in your profit margin. It is the equivalent of telling your friend about a new restaurant because you ate there last week, and getting a free cup of coffee next time you come into that restaurant for the mention. After the big dogs eat, you get a crumb or two.
So your mission would be to get into the food chain deeper. The ideal placement is a Producer/Retailer, which cuts out all the middle men. So you have a service or product that you directly create and deliver to the consumer. You would have to have a service most likely unless you produce some tangible goods from your bedroom or garage. People do that all of the time. It is not that common though. A service of some kind would be the most likely candidate for people like us.
Sales. Let me talk about this subject for a moment. We need clarity on this because it is often overlooked. Sales and Salespeople are the highest paid people in any company! (with exceptions of course) Usually the CEO makes more, but I have seen companies where the sales force makes MORE than the CEO! Why is that? Because without sales people nothing gets sold or purchased! They are the backbone of our economy and constantly overlooked as such. The manufacturer has to have good sales people, wholesale buyers work with them. Wholesalers need good sales people, retail buyers work with them. Retailers need good sales people, consumers buy from them. Sure there is a lot of "automated" selling these days, and it is possible to go into a Target or Walmart and never see a sales person. But, when it comes to heavy duty purchasing by a consumer, 99.9% of the time that is handled by a salesperson!
Ok, so what does that mean in this context? Simple... In order to increase your profit margin you must do two things. 1.) Get higher in the food chain of the marketing process. 2.) Become a sales oriented person.
Now back to Google. Using Ad Hoc (that's what they call it) marketing can pay dividends. There are tricks to the trade as in any business. I would not totally try to convince you NOT to use them, only be aware of what is really going on. And don't depend on this as your only source of revenue.
Let me give you one more example that we can all relate to. FriHost. They have Google ads, but they have something else here as well. See, they have volume traffic. That is attractive to merchandisers. So the merchandisers offer them Rate Card advertising. What that means is that because they have a high volume of traffic, there is a numerical chance that if a company puts an ad on this forum, someone will click through. It is a formula based on traffic. So, the companies offer up front payments to advertise on this forum. It could be a little as $100.00 every three months up to 1000's for the right traffic flow. That is how the Big Boys on the Internet make money with advertising. After you build a track record, then you can actually up the ante and tell them you want more when it is time to renew. So pay your dues and be nice to Frihost
I outsource my forum for my business. They have Google ads on my forum. I don't mind because it pays for my hosting, etc. So it's all good. Same with FriHost. They save me money and I, in turn, help them out. Don't discount what a good thing these guys do here. If you are a website owner here you are saving some money for sure! As your volume grows of course you may have to depart. Hopefully FriHost will resolve this for us one day. But for now, it doesn't appear to be an issue.
I am fully aware, and very dissapointed that there are no jobs for you guys (Teenagers). I think that is a very sad and dangerous thing. Nothing more boring then sitting around all summer with nothing on your plate to do. When I was that age I did awful things that could have really ruined my life. There weren't many jobs around then either. There were paper routes and so forth. I had a job at a little corner store for awhile when I was about 12 or 13. But I really do feel your pain on this one and I am all for finding something that you can do. I am brainstorming some stuff right now as we speak. There are some drawbacks though. First, your parents must be in the loop and informed. You will most likely be in contact with older people like me and you must use caution and good common sense. There ARE dangerous adults out there and young people fall victim to their scams all of the time! Whenever I have done anything with younger people I talk to their parents first to let them know everything is cool and above board, and nothing interferes with their education... Period! That is the most important time of your young life! The better your knowledge of the world is, the better chance you have of enjoying things in life. So take it while your bills are being paid. It is much harder to get educated when you are eating Ramen Noodles and living in an apartment with no furniture! I also like to tell the parents how nice it is to see a motivated young person trying really hard. because it is a good thing.
I hope that was helpful. I'll post more if anyone is interested. I am doing tons of research right now that could benefit all of us in the long run... Peace
If you are SERIOUSLY interested in business, PM me or email me. We can get together on some things I have cooking.
Thanx LA Ridge for all your long replies. I have never seen a short reply from you man. You are a great person.
Man you really opened my eyes to the truth and let me know what it is. About the business thingie, i will let you know as soon as my exams finish.
Thanx again.
Warm Regards,
Man you really opened my eyes to the truth and let me know what it is. About the business thingie, i will let you know as soon as my exams finish.
Thanx again.
Warm Regards,
I appreciate that. You do well on those exams, they are the most IMPORTANT thing going on right now. Everything else pales by comparison!
Since I apparently have one fan, I guess I could elaborate more on different business theories. Now, when I say theory, you have to remember that most of marketing is based on theory and conjecture. In other words, even if it has been done before it may or may not work.
Marketing and advertising is a living, breathing thing! It is adjusted for trends, fads, and whims. People are blessed with self will. They might like it one day, but not the next. So in essence marketing is more of a science and an art rather than an absolute. So keep that in mind no matter who tells you about whatever, nothing is written in stone. In fact, I don't think much has been since Moses and the 10 Commandments.
Since I apparently have one fan, I guess I could elaborate more on different business theories. Now, when I say theory, you have to remember that most of marketing is based on theory and conjecture. In other words, even if it has been done before it may or may not work.
Marketing and advertising is a living, breathing thing! It is adjusted for trends, fads, and whims. People are blessed with self will. They might like it one day, but not the next. So in essence marketing is more of a science and an art rather than an absolute. So keep that in mind no matter who tells you about whatever, nothing is written in stone. In fact, I don't think much has been since Moses and the 10 Commandments.
It seems like there is only small money in using Google adsense, unless you have some great content with worldwide apeal and lots of visitors. Is this because there is only a small possibility that the people who click on the Google ads will actually result in revenue? Whereas if you approached, say your local store and showed them that your site directly promotes their product, could you expect to receive more for your adds?
Is adsense too general?
Is adsense too general?
I submitted my information to google adsense 4 days ago and after confirming my e-mail, it said that the code will "arrive" in 2 days, but it hasn't so far.
anything I might have done wrong?
anything I might have done wrong?
| Mamsaac wrote: |
| I submitted my information to google adsense 4 days ago and after confirming my e-mail, it said that the code will "arrive" in 2 days, but it hasn't so far.
anything I might have done wrong? |
Code?
What code?
The ad codes can only be accessed from the adsense control panel at google.com/adsense
The mail intimating about your acceptance to adsense or rejection wil reach in a max period of a week
So be patient
If you have waited too long then contact adsense support with the details of your account
yeah, that's what I meant, only that I didn't know how to say it.
<_< anyway, it has been 5 days. I hope it arrives soon
<_< anyway, it has been 5 days. I hope it arrives soon
Last time around(3 months ago) when they denied my application, they took a week to reply
When they approved it a month ago(after reapplying) they approved it in around 3 days
When they approved it a month ago(after reapplying) they approved it in around 3 days
I have three or four blogs on google.blogspot, some six months old and some relatively new. I have put Adsense on most of them but my earning so far is only $0.37 so far. This is quite depressing.
Maybe, if I host an independent website and put adsense on it, will it earn me at least $100 in the next couple of months or not, I am not sure.
Is there any other free programme like adsense which pays more than Google?
Maybe, if I host an independent website and put adsense on it, will it earn me at least $100 in the next couple of months or not, I am not sure.
Is there any other free programme like adsense which pays more than Google?
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| I have three or four blogs on google.blogspot, some six months old and some relatively new. I have put Adsense on most of them but my earning so far is only $0.37 so far. This is quite depressing.
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Depressing it will be if nobody clicks on your ads or you dont know how to place them or what to place and where to place
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Thats Quite A Laugh..
You cant earn 100$ within 2 months of your site's launch unless the hits go through the roof everyday
This would be impossible considering you are just launching the site
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This is supposed to be an advertising forum
Why dont you search the forum before asking a question like this?
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Could you give me your earnings and your visitors each day,
I would join adsense because I have 200~250 visitors each day and I would know how much I can earn.
I would join adsense because I have 200~250 visitors each day and I would know how much I can earn.
| Maxus wrote: |
| Could you give me your earnings and your visitors each day,
I would join adsense because I have 200~250 visitors each day and I would know how much I can earn. |
It is against adsense rules to give out your earnings,
if anybody does, they ll be screwed
It is also entirely dependant on where you place your ads, and what your site is.
i'm new here and i wanted to know:
how will google pay you...
as i don't have a credit card
how will google pay you...
as i don't have a credit card
| kristi_rey619 wrote: |
| i'm new here and i wanted to know:
how will google pay you... as i don't have a credit card |
You can be paid directly in to your bank account, or by cheque. You are always paid in your local currency. See Google's help for more details.
could some one give me a bosic guide about this, how to make money, how to put them on/install and so on.
thanks,
craig
thanks,
craig
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| could some one give me a bosic guide about this, how to make money, how to put them on/install and so on.
thanks, craig |
Google have and entire help section for Adsense. This is where you should start, it tells you everything you need to know.
One thing I have noticed recently is that my earnings are steadily reducing. My pages are no different, the placement of the ads are the same, but the cpc I am getting is very low compared to what it was. My traffic is also slowly increasing, but despite this, my earnings are decreasing. Has anyone else noticed this?
ok thanks.
Hi..
I have google adsense before, but once month ago, my account was banned from google.
I don't get a warning about my account, when i get email from google, i was banned from google adsense.
At my email, google said i have invalid click from my account.
I have appeal this account, but not success.
if i want create new account, what i must to do? buy a new domain or what ??
thanks
I have google adsense before, but once month ago, my account was banned from google.
I don't get a warning about my account, when i get email from google, i was banned from google adsense.
At my email, google said i have invalid click from my account.
I have appeal this account, but not success.
if i want create new account, what i must to do? buy a new domain or what ??
thanks
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| Hi..
I have google adsense before, but once month ago, my account was banned from google. I don't get a warning about my account, when i get email from google, i was banned from google adsense. At my email, google said i have invalid click from my account. I have appeal this account, but not success. if i want create new account, what i must to do? buy a new domain or what ?? thanks |
As long as you give the same address for communication, they will not accept your account request at all.
Instead of going about it the round way, forget adsense and get another ad service
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As long as you give the same address for communication, they will not accept your account request at all. Instead of going about it the round way, forget adsense and get another ad service |
thanks for your advice...
can you give me some advice for ad service ? no i using adbrite.
I try to apply for yahoo ad, but i live in out of USA , and can't use this service.
What another good ad service for website?
thanks
Well I got accepted by adsense today... and have so far... overall... in total... $0. 
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| Well I got accepted by adsense today... and have so far... overall... in total... $0. |
you will get money from google adsense if visitor click the ad in your site.
if not you get nothing from google
yea...I know... I was joking around if you didn't notice...
It performs bad with my www.rani-mukharji.com , but certainly with
lawnmowers.50webs.com , it goes great .
lawnmowers.50webs.com , it goes great .
Guess who has adsense again?
Words cannot describe this joy I feel. (Because joy is something it doesn't bring me)
Words cannot describe this joy I feel. (Because joy is something it doesn't bring me)
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| Guess who has adsense again?
Words cannot describe this joy I feel. (Because joy is something it doesn't bring me) |
Great!!
So did you get approved for a new account or did the old account get restored?
I got approved for a new one, which was very surprising. I had nothing to lose so I applied and got accepted, in less than 6 hours as well.
after my first account was banned, i trying to applied again using google adsense using same domain and name.
After waiting three days, i got email from google adsense, tell that google cannot approve my account
I'm not lucky man
After waiting three days, i got email from google adsense, tell that google cannot approve my account
I'm not lucky man
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| I got approved for a new one, which was very surprising. I had nothing to lose so I applied and got accepted, in less than 6 hours as well. |
But knowing google, beware Hobbit..
They may even screw you out of your money after getting another, say, 80$ or something
Perhaps it has to do with the fact that your site gets a lots of hits and hence google has approved
But nothing stops them from saying this at a later date eventhough they know right now that you had been banned earlier..
"We are very sorry, but we discovered that you were earlier banned due to illegal clicks and hence we hereby ban you again"
Not being pessimistic or anything, but be cautious
I think i will join adsense
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| I think i will join adsense |
i hope you'll be lucky using adsense and i hope you're not got banned from adsense.
i think google a litle bit confuse, without warn about your account, they can banned you from adsense
Does anyone know of a successful script which stops people commiting click fraud. Is there a way that, when someone clicks on your ads, its stores your IP address into a database and then disables the ads after 3 clicks or so a day?
Edit: Ive found something that might intrest all of you: http://www.adlogger.org/index.php - Its a javascript/php/mysql script that disables ads for those who have clicked on your ads more than three times in a certain period. Im thinking of getting Ad-Sense, but only if this script is successful. If anyone has used it, can they post their experiences with it here please
Edit: Ive found something that might intrest all of you: http://www.adlogger.org/index.php - Its a javascript/php/mysql script that disables ads for those who have clicked on your ads more than three times in a certain period. Im thinking of getting Ad-Sense, but only if this script is successful. If anyone has used it, can they post their experiences with it here please
Guess I'll try it, hopefuly I can get enough to pay for my TS server. 1st day and w00t I made a dollar.
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| Adsense Status and Earnings Notifier a cool google desktop extension
As the talk spreads about the new google desktop search. Webmasters and site owners are happy about the one cool plugin around. Well, what will the be happy about? That is obviously related to money and only money. There was a firefox extension for the same purpose, but some how if didnt work properly and people were looking for something more handy. And its in. Its none other but the Google Google Adsense Status plugin created by Software. If you have not installed the plugin yet, well, I bet you will be happy to use it. |
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