Do you believe in Aliens ?

I've seen these Alien things from TV, radio, pictures, newspapers, etc.
Just curious what you guys thinking about it. Have any of you guys seen them for real ?

Do you think this is one of US top secret? And of course are there really area 51?

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Do you think in this huge universe there aren't aliens? I believe that god made us but I still think there's something out there. But really if there are aliens, I don't think they are killers like in the movies, maybe they are nice and friendly...

I agree. The universe is so unimaginably huge that there must be at least some other form of intelligent life out there. However, even if there were aliens in other galaxies, we might never know, due to our limited knowledge of space and space travel.

I don't think it is a matter of belief but rather our lack of evidence. Its not totally incredible but I can't imagine contact.
Interesting books about contact with alien intelligence is Stanislaw Lem's "Solaris" (1961) and even more insightful "Fiasco" (1986, trans. 1987).

Of course I do believe in aliens; I am an alien !

I believe that they exist somewhere out there. If there friendly or not i dont know, but i dont expect to meet them anytime soon anyway

I think they exist, although looking totally different from what we can imagine.

I believe that it probably exists other lifeforms in other parts of the universe but I don't think that they have to be carbon based.

I don't believe in aliens in the way many movies shows them. Why would a lifeform become green with pearshaped heads and huge black eyes?

nappa, just cause something is said in a book, that doesn't means real.
The government is not hiding aliens. There isn't any evidence that aliens have ever even visited the earth.

they exist,but we should find the way.

I think there is, probably not green and with 5 eyes. But space in unlimited, how can we say that there's no other life in it than us?

So checking this probability thinking....

If the space is so large it's like infinite or very close, then the probability is most certatin 100% that smart life exist out there...

Hm, so have they gotten here? I must say that mankind is so stupid that the most smart ones are (must be) smarter than us... well, just by watching us they must think we are so stupid... Do they intend to travel here, to 'dumb-land', by free will? Hm, well If they could they must have been here for a long long time... even it it takes some time some of us would travel to another planet, so they must have...

So I guess we are a bit infiltrated then? or? Can't be since we are still so stupid... or... Are there here to help? Or is this atlantis take 2 ???

I do believe there are oxygen(to an extent at least) breathing aliens somewhere in space. I don't believe we've ever contacted and I don't believe that they are that intelligent. ie some sort of more primitive animal probably.

Evidence of alien lifeforms may be in the bible, if the bible holds any credibility or accuracy that is. Back in that time beings would come from the heavens surrounded by bright light. In that time humans couldn't comprehend what this thing was so a reasonable thing to call it would be a God or an angel. Strange that so many sepperated races of people would all have religions that were based around these kind of beings that would come from the sky. If you were to look at this logically, the conclusion would be that they were alien life forms.

Ummm.. were talking about science not religon. Doesn't hold any credibility with me cause I'm athiest. Sorry for any of you hardcore Religon people.

Anyway, of course there is alien life. Heck, they say there may be even in freaking Jupiter. Bugs only of course but that is still life. Hell there are millions and billions of planets that are probably better suited to hold life then Earth. We just have to find them. Problem is were going to waste all our resources and die before we can get good enough technology to actually do this in my view.

If there are aliens why would they look @ us? If they can travel over light years or over time why would they let us look at them?

It's like us looking at something under a microscope. If they are advanced enough to get here they probably be advanced enough not to be seen. The other possibility is that they want to be seen and are playing with our minds. They are probably laughing at us and making some sort of alien jokes.

If someone did find one. I'm sure they would have sold it on e-bay by now. You can find everything else.

Today who ever finds anything would sell the movie wrights, write a book and sell small pieces or the blankets that covered them on e-bay.

Evidence is key. The same goes with Yettie (sp?) etc.

I suppose the area of Alians and UFO's uncertain. Some people strongly believe they are out there and even seen or touched them. Other's would say there is now chance and we are alone in the universe.

Well, my opinion stems from the lack of tangible evidence. I "believe" there is a possiblitly of life somewhere outside of Earth, but I'm not going to try and convience anyone that there are alians or not. Besides on such an ambigious topic I think the word "believe" is important to remember.

I think we are not the only ones in the universe.

According to NASA's pictures taken on Mars, I believe so.

Maybe Aliens are lurking on other planets that NASA can't be bothered visiting..

Aliens. Aren't we all aliens? Do i know you? Do you know me? Are we speaking the same language? Are we of the same status? Are we from the same country? I think this alien thing is being blown out of portion. Who cares if there are any aliens outside when we are killing ourselves mentally and physically on Earth?? Aliens would be scared of us rather than we scared of them! If aliens do exist, i do hope that they can help us to settle our problems here on Earth. And maybe we can also help to settle their problems if any on their planet.

Let me start of by saying,"Hello Aliens! Welcome to Earth! Now, are you rich? Or are you white/grey/blue? Are you dangerous?? Cuz we sure are glad if you could help!"

I think that alliens are a good way to make money by entertaining people. I like very much alliens pictures but think not any one is approximately true. It is like that old futurist pictures with flying cars in the year 2000. Think the little green man is a nice logo. If alliens exist it wont be as we imagine.

I think if we consider parasite or some kind of very small living, then there are aliens out there on the moon and other planets. If heard that they found some kinds of those small parasite on some planets.

I think H2O is what most needed in term of life. Therefore if there are H2O then there will be plants and that leads to some other living creature.

Water and plants!

I believe in aliens.

I don't believe they come on earth in their spaceships.

The so-called UFO's are secret human prototypes according to me.

I think it's possible, basically anything is, but extremely unlikely. The second Earth-like planet they found does increase the likelihood, but the odds that life would develop are incredibly small.

Yes, of course.

1 time, somehow, I had the 'Top Secret' book from the Area 51 of US.
Actually it was an ebook with everything desctibed about aliens and UFOs.

But, due to some fault, my PC for formatt and since then, I didn't found that e-book anywhere.

But, yes. I really had that book and so I believe that Area 51 is having some aliens secrets in it.

I think that there may be life on other planets but just microbes if anything. No green monsters and the like.

Here's an interesting article about extreme microbes that can live at really hot or cold temps and make a living off rocks and other harsh conditions.

Microbes are awesome!

Of course aliens exist. I have no idea what they look like or where they are, but it's almost inconceivable that we're the only one's out there.

I think there definitely are aliens in the space.
The universe is gigantic. It's highly unlikely that there isn't a planet which is similar to the earth and contains simple livings.
However, I don't think aliens will ever reach the earth.
First of all, there is no earth-like planet in millions and millions of lightyears. Even if we traveled with light-speed, it would last like 100 years before they reach us or we reach them.
Secondly, I think it's highly unlikely that these aliens are developped enough to ever contact us.

So my opinion is: There are aliens, but they will never reach the earth in any way.

Actually it only takes one nuke to end all life on Earth

Even the most powerfull nuke ever made is far from being that powerfull.

I think that it is probable that other life exist in the universe because considering it's size it's possible that the conditions needed for life exist somewhere else that on earth.

but of course I don't think that if life exists somewhere else:
- it will be "human like" (all the aliens in movies are looking more or less like humans, that doesn't make sense)
- they are able to contact us, because they are too far away.

So anyway it doesn't change anything so basically I don't bother.

A fan of Planet of the Apes 2?

No. The most powerful nuke ever made was a few megatons, more than enough power to destroy the largest of city's and cause millions to get cancer and millions of birth defects but to wipe out humanity you would need a millions of megatons and you can not destroy the atmosphere.

hmmm....maybe I should go on wikepedia a research this...I'll type in "Could nukes destroy Earth?"

Yes, with the countless amount of galaxies/planets out there, it's hard to believe that this was the only planet to develop life. So I do believe that aliens might exist, farther or nearer that we might know. Our solar system is so small (nine planets) that judging this subject from these nine alone doesn't make much sense.

I believe that something has already visited this planet - may still be visiting - and will continue to do so.

Whatever it is, whether it's alien, inter-dimensional, or time-traveller is open to serious speculation. Either it hides itself extremely well, or proof of its existence is only available to the most powerful of humans.

I don't believe that it is any threat to us - and it may even have helped us develop to where we are now.

If its purpose is benign its existence will become common knowledge when we are ready at cultural, religious and technological levels. If its purpose is control it will never make itself known other than to those it needs to control humanity.

If its purpose is benign our development of interstellar and intergalactic space travel will be allowed to develop at our own pace with, perhaps, some nudging in the right directions. If its purpose is control it will sabotage and destroy our attempts for many hundreds - possibly thousands - of years.

I think this way because there has, for generations, been hints. There has, also, been a lot of deception on both sides of the 'do they exist' argument. On the whole, though, I think that given the size of the universe the existence of none-Earth intelligent life is far more probable than improbable.

I think that it would be highly presumptuous to believe that we are entirely alone in the universe. It's extremely likely, in such a vast universe, that many civilisations have existed, currently exist, and will exist that far exceed our current capabilities as far as interstellar and intergalactic space travel (or perhaps even time travel) are concerned.

It does not necessarily require a vastly superior intellect to achieve these things - what it does require is willpower, incentive, time and patience. Few people thought, just 100 years ago, that space travel was anything other than a work of fiction. What can we achieve in the next 1000 years? Yet, surprisingly, Modern Man's IQ is little different to that of Stone Age Man.

Mass extinction of the dinosaurs was a chance event that gave mammals a world in which to evolve. If that chance event had not occurred it's likely that life on Earth would be vastly different to what we now experience. Some dinosaurs were already - at that time - living in groups and cooperating with each other. Would they have started using tools, building permanent homes instead of nests, started bartering food, teaching their offspring, wanting their offspring to live a better life than they did ... ? Who knows - but it certainly seems that something would have taken the lead. Lucky for us it was us (eventually)!

What have other none-Earth civilisations achieved in the millennia they may have had available to them?

I certainly hope aliens exists, because if they don't then my implants must be government issued...

I don't like that idea.....

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I think it's rather likely if they do exist they aren't more intelligent than us,
or even As intelligent. That always bothers me in movies, like with Starship Troopers...
Intelligent BUGS? chya....and flying pigs.

well in a huge universe why cant there be alien life forms that can travel through space and time....or galaxy alone can potentially have many inteligent lifeforms...but no one will ever believe it (some people would be badly hurt if there are more then one life form Exclamation

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For me aliens are somewhere in the universe. But the universe is so big that the change we will meet an alien is little. The universe has no borders everybody says. Of course is the change they meet us to little.

But for me they exist.

I beleave that it can be life on other planets but not like those in films. not likely anyhow. more like something that are like plants but more fluid.

Anybody who thinks that Earth is the only planet in the universe to have developed intelligent life is deluding themselves. No matter how pessimistic you may be you must be able to see that the shear size of the universe means that the chances of there being only 1 planet to support life is extremely small.

It's a bit like the Loch Ness monster - some people are adamant it exists, some scoff at the very thought. But nobody knows for sure. And it is unlikely that we will ever be really sure. Unless it is found it will never be disproved to everyones satisfaction - even draining the Loch will just result in people saying it must have escaped through the tunnels into the sea.
The same is true with aliens - it is relatively easy to prove (if contact is made for example) but it will never be disproved. Never ever.

It takes someone with a very big ego to declare that we are the only intelligent species, or even that we are the most intelligent. We don't even know of all the species on our own planet, much less in our own solar system and certainly not on any others.

As to whether they live among us then try thinking what we would do if we had the technology to mingle with a more 'primitive' species? We'd be in straight away and try and enslave them. I feel sorry for any 'aliens' that we discover that are less advanced than us cos they won't stand a chance against human nature.

David.

well i believe that somthing is out there cus the universe is big and that we cant be the onliest planet with a civilised lifeform cus then we would be the onliest lifeform to get a look at the hole galaxy

and if aliens werent out there we would have a lot of meaningles films Laughing

and some people are claiming to have seen them

i myself thinks i have seen a alien or a ghost in my kitchen when i hat to pie in the night

and i dont think area 51 is a alien institute or hat yuo wanna call it it hink its a thing amerika has made up to seem more interesting kindof like when they said there were nuclea bombs in irak but none was found

Well I think there is life somewhere in the universe besides us.. it is just unlikely that life just occurs on one planet of the billions that are out there. But I don't think they look any thing like the "aliens" our modern media dreams of.

I think there is no intelligent life in the Solar system except perhaps for Earth, where one or two individuals might qualify Laughing

i believe that as the size of our universe is currently immeasurably large,
the possibility that we are the only complex life in the universe to me is totally unimaginable

even though the probability of life existing in the same form as us is infinitely small
i think that the size of the universe almost necessitates some form of life to exist somewhere
out there in the great abyss of space

I do believe that Aliens do most likely exist.Have I seen one? No I have not but that does not mean they dont exist.There are so many other galaxies in space that I doubt we will ever know if they do exist or not.Alot of the so called "sightings" I am not sure if I believe it because there are so many people out there just paraniod or just want to make some money or even mess with people.So unless I see it with my own eyes or is geniuine evidence Ill keep my opinion at Maybe.

you can only imagine that other intelligent life think about the same thing that we are at this very moment Smile

Statistically speaking, the chance of there being some form of alien life in the universe is 100%. There are predicted to be billions of 'goldilocks zone' planets (not too hot, not too cold). and given that there has been billions of years for life to evolve on any of them, it is highly unlikely that some form of life hasnt come about.
However, the chances of highly evolved intelligent life... the jury is out on that one.

Well, I really doubt that we're the only ones out there, so yes I do believe in Aliens.

Some people say we have aliens among us but they must be very good at covering their tracks. I don't know if there is intelligent life in the Solar System although the search continues on Earth but so far theres been no sign Embarassed

I think there may be creatures like humans or other stuff like on Earth. No demon killers that fly in ships (unless their technology is that enhanced...)

may be there are...who knows...but i think space is too big for humans...

Sure there are aliens. Not these "E.T" Aliens but maybe simple bacteria.
The Universe is soooooooooooooooooo big, so i don't believe, that we're the only living creatures.
But i dont think these aliens have ships with warengine(star trek) or hyperdrive (stargate).
Thats simply Sci-Fi and nothing more or less.

The law of averages says that there are probably alien intelligences out there somewhere. However, the size of the universe and the problems with spanning the distances also says that it's unlikely that we'll ever encounter them in the lifetime of our species. Unfortunate.

aliens?only some people saw them really..maybe..so i don´t believe in aliens..

I believe in extraterrestrials, surely... it's both arrogant to think, and statistically improbable, that Earth is the only planet with life in the universe. That's not to say that I believe aliens have visited Earth... those are different concepts Razz

I could really imagine of some creatures in the universe. But I mean simple life forms, like bacterias. The higher the lifeform the less the chance they exist, I think.

But if there are intelligent "aliens" with hight tech and maybe spaceships, scientifically it doesn't look like that they ever visit us. The distances are just too far. But shure we could send messages. It would take long for every answer and every message has to be translated.

So let me give all of you, who really believe in aliens, an advice: don't wait for that day "they" are landing. They are not coming.

The universe is so big that it scares me if we would be the only ones in it.
I believe in extraterestrial life, there must be a habitable planet somewhere with alien beeings.

I'm not going to declare they exist and I don't really believe in anything until there's good evidence, but I believe it's possible. The burden of proof, however, lies in the hands of those who declare they exist, because until it is shown, it cannot be stated other life exists. I think there's a chance other life exists...the universe is incredibly huge based on our understanding. The question is, is that life very similar to life on this planet? There are so many basic founding principles of life on Earth that it leads me to believe there's not many places that can support the life we know. That's not to say they can't exist though Razz

So, no, I don't believe they exist at the moment, but I don't think it's impossible for other life to exist Very Happy

I'll wait for proof then make my final judgment.

im not believe in aliens.... i believe if there come and i see my to eyes

There has to be something else in the universe besides us. Yes, maybe our solar system was one out of a infinite possibilities that formed our universe, but considering how big our universe is, there is bound to be someplace else in it somewhere where life also exists, whether it be humanoid or not.

I believe that somewhere could exist some sort of life but I don’t believe when I hear some people say on TV or in newspaper that they sow aliens… I won’t believe in it until I see it with my own eyes. And even then I would first think it’s something else and try to find another explanation. I don’t believe they come to Earth.

I haven't seen enough evidence to convince me that they are here now, but it is extremely unlikely for Earth to be the only planet in the entire universe with life. The US government has been known to test their most classified aircraft at Groom Lake (Area 51), such as the U-2, SR-71, and F-117. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a new plane that is classified. However, it would be hard to "sneak in". Even the SR-71 and B-2 can be seen on radar under certain circumstances, and in one incident a British vessel detected F-117's ~150-200 miles away while they were bombing Baghdad (Though the act of opening the bomb bay doors would expose a large amount of material to radars).
Conclusion: They likely exist, but likely not here and now, and likely not as we think they will.

my friend has seen them and photographed their shuttle... i know him very well and he doesnt lie anyway.... i insisted on him to tell about them but he refused...

yes there's an area 51. I don't know if I believe about aliens or not honestly. I believe in ghosts & I believe in demons since I've seen somebody possessed by one with my own eyes on the last day of a bible camp I attended once. But aliens I'm not completely convinced. Area 51 is more of a military thing in my opinion.

there's got to be something out there, somewhere, otherwise theres faaaaaarrr too much empty space up there. Not good from a galactic feng shui point of view.

I do believe! Crazy thing is..I'm Christian! I love that movie that the guy posted in like the second reply on this topic. What if....WHAT IF...when we went to the moon we did find something out there and since then the leaders of Earth are gravitating towards a unified Earth which most of us believe is evil, i.e. new world order and such. But what if we did have contact, is it so unreasonable that our leaders communicated to the "aliens" that our society is not ready for this truth and they must prepare us to prevent total anarchy? I remember reading a conversation Neil Armstrong had with the astronaut that was orbiting the moon while he was on it and Neil said that there were ships on the moon! NASA immediately ordered him to switch to code talk. Whether or not that conversation ever actually took place there are many other things such as doctored photographs of the moon and the fact that we've never seen the dark side! Who knows if they are green, they may be flesh colored like us. But then again they may be green! I'm rambling but damn the possibilities alone are more exciting than....more exciting than....something really really exciting!!!

Let's separate two concepts - the existence of aliens, and the presence, and knowledge of that presence, by our political masters.
The first is, I believe, likely. The second is unlikely to the point of incredibility.
The whole controversy over the moon landings is an example of myth-making in action. We HAVE seen the darkside of the moon and it has been photographed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_side_of_the_Moon

OK...here's some reading you might enjoy
http://bikerman.info/resources/mywork/universe-guide/universe-guide.htm

I myself have never seen aliens or any strange things in sky.But i believe that they are their in universe.Imagine, there are many solar systems and they will have planet like earth ,having life.
They may be advance in technology or backwords too.So imagine,It may be that aliens are staying with us in our vicinity changing their bodies.May be possible if they are far ahead in technology then us.

Hmm. That's a pretty good question.
Do I believe in Aliens? Yes, I do.
Do I believe in Aliens like people tell me they are? No I don't.

I do not believe that Earth is the only planet in this massive universe with life on it. There must be other planets with simular conditions where life has come. I do believe, however, that those creatures, just like ourselves, are unable to leave their solarsystem and are unable to contact us. I do not believe in Area 51 or stuff like that. Think about it, the US managed to keep secret that they're torchering suspected terrorists, they have never actually confirmed it, but yet they manage to spill information regarding something as top secret as Aliens? Second point of critique is that there is no reason to keep it a secret. Why would you?

I would say USOs are far more intriguing than UFOs. Most UFO reports are made by people looking up at the sky and noticing something that does not look like the average airplane. Most USO reports are made by Navy officials who spot something several thousand feet below where their technology is capable of going. In the case of a USO, it may not be aliens at all. Just something we haven't found out about yet.

yeah.. for sure. if theres live here why not out there? its true that is kinda mystery but thats the good thing and what it keeps our live progressing.

This as always been a contentious subject which I have tried to study.

I would like to say I have never seen a disc or triangle craft but know people who have. Is everbody who see's something otherworldly a nutter / deluded / schizo or whatever? I don't believe so.

Who would be the best observer to give an opinion? Air traffic controllers, Military observers, Physisists, Pilots, Astronauts? All of these professions are on record for reporting unusual craft.

There are a few things to consider.

Most people think it is impossible for an alien race to be here because of the vast distances involved, but if we don't know of their technology who are we to say. Hundreds of years ago you would have been called a heretic if you said the earth was round. Imagine if you could demonstrate a mobile phone or TV to somebody in victorian times would you evade being lynched?

The thing is: People (especially governments) like to have secrets as it gives them power/control over the people who don't know. Why do you think the powers of old destroyed books and supressed education ? Because an ignorant / un-educated society is easier to control.

I have to say one of the best documented cases for UFO's has to be Eduard Meier (Switzerland).
With thousands of images, multiple cine film and also sound recordings.

This man has been vilified from day 1. But to this day no-one has been able to duplicate ANY of his images or cine-film. This man has 1 arm by the way. I think there is still a million pound bounty for anyone to duplicate the evidence he has, using the same equipment. (35mm SLR and 8mm Cine camera).

Hey don't get me wrong many people have faked photo's etc but to have thousands ??

Also why won't NASA broadcast live streams anymore? Is this because of the STS missions that have recorded anomalous objects (STS-46,48 and 75 just to name a few).

An interesting rumour on the net at the moment are the Isaac documents.

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/

I think this may be more Bikerman's territory than mine but it does sound intrigueing.
(By the way I think the majority of the drone craft are CGI.)

France has released all of their ufo documents (I would recommend firefox with translator+ plugin if you don't read french) and the UK is to follow later this year.

Well that's it for now... This subject will never die and if in the future ET does come forward and say hello, the people who deny it now will most probably say they knew all along.

In 1972, Dr. Hermann Oberth, a NASA space scientist and one of the three founding fathers of rocketry and modern astronautics and Von Braun's mentor said 'Today, we cannot produce machines that fly the same as UFOs do. They are flying by means of artificial fields of Gravity. This would explain the sudden changes of directions. This hypothesis would also explain the pilling-up of these discs into a Cylindrical or cigar shaped Mothership upon leaving the Earth. Because it is in this fashion, that only one field of gravity would be required for all the flying saucers. We cannot take credit for our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone. We have been helped... and we have been helped by the people of other WORLDS.'

Yes, he was a well known supporter of the Extra-Terrestrial Hypothesis.
http://www.mufon.com/znews_oberth.html

Needless to say, I think he was completely wrong, but that does not mean he was not a good scientist - his work in Rocketry has rightly been recognised and honoured.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Oberth

I presume he means they can intervene due to the stream at NASA being live which is then being piped onto the net via their streams. (no direct Cable or Sat feed anymore)

Lifeforms can only exist on planets which have temperate conditions like Earth or Mars. Add that with availibility of water and we have advanced (and probably intelligent) forms of life like humans. If there were aliens on some planet like the Earth in some other star system... they would probably be carbon based and very much like us.

That's my understanding of the topic... what do you think?!?

Well, let's take that one at a time.
Firstly funding. I agree that NASA is part of the military-industrial complex of the US. I also agree that the military funding includes a lot of 'black ops' stuff that we don't hear about. In fact I think this is probably THE major reason for most UFO sightings.
The funding for NASA has been in decline for some time. If you are saying that they are secretly getting billions as a reward for keeping quiet about ETs then two questions arise;
a) Where are the billions? A lot of knowledgable people go over the federal budget in some detail, and although there are certainly 'black holes' of military black-ops spending, there seems to be little evidence that NASA gets much of it.
b) What are they spending the money on? The budgets of NASA are published. They constantly plead for more funding to cover projects such as the Mars mission. If they secretly have a cache of billions of dollars then why are they crying for more?
http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/infbrief/nsf02315/
The reason they are stuck with the 70s technology of the space-shuttle is because they have insufficient funding to develop the next generation. If senior NASA officials really had evidence of ET then I find it hard to believe they would have problems getting the money required for the development of a new generation of spacecraft.

Secondly, secrets. The official secrets act does indeed 'gag' you, but that has not stopped people speaking out. There are many cases where people have broken the act in order to speak out against something they believe is wrong. There are many examples of 'whistleblowers' in recent history - a quick 'google' reveals any number of such cases. Do you think it's credible that tens of thousands of scientists would agree to be bound by secrecy on a matter of such world-shattering importance as the existence of ET? Personally, my experience with the scientists I know makes that an incredible proposition.

Thirdly - scientists and UFOs. Many scientists have looked into the phenomenon. I'm sure you have reports from some of them. A quick search of the internet reveals many;
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1744.htm
I agree that, if you were to offer a large grant, there would be scientists queuing up to apply for it - such is the nature of science funding. Both the US and UK governments have funded such studies in the past. The most recent UK study I know is the 2000 MOD study
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4981720.stm
The problem is that conspiracy theorists will never be satisfied. They will inevitably point out supposed flaws in such studies or claim that findings have been suppressed or witnesses intimidated or evidence ignored. You cannot win in this scenario since no study you could possibly conceive of will lay the matter to rest and no government is going to sign an open-ended cheque.

Finally - the X project. Surely this is evidence against the conspiracy. Would governments spend (presumably) billions on covering-up ETs, and then sit-back and happily allow private companies to develop space-craft capable of observing them? As far as I know there has been no government interference with either the competition itself or the competitors entering the competition. Does that sound likely if we are to imagine a huge government consipiracy to hide evidence of ET?

Not a way .
We're aliens too !
Hoo yay !

"Aliens" in movies looks kinda weird , perhaps they should make them look like proper animals =_=

I am very much a realist and believe in what I see with my own 2 eyes. And have never seen an alien or a flying saucer for that matter so therefore I do not believe in them. It's a bit like saying do you believe in fairies. However I am quite partial to Sci-Fi films in which peeps imaginations run wild in creating such material. But that is not to say there is other life forms on other planets somewhere. But the chances of them getting here on earth are astrinomical. I certainly do not take any notice of these so called documentries with doctored photographs, and refuse to watch such garbage.

I have actually seen a UFO (at least it was 'U' for about 20 mins). Driving across Australia a few years ago I saw a bright object in the distance (it was starting to go dark - twilight). The object seemed to stop, pause, and then shoot directly upwards with a huge 'flame tail' behind it.
It eventually disappeared into the night sky, obscured by high cloud.
It was about 20 minutes later that we drove past a huge field where the 'Melbourne Air Show' was being held. We stopped for a look and I got chatting to a guy who explained what we had seen. Apparently it's known as a 'dump and burn'. A Russian MiG jet had pointed vertically, turned on the after-burners and dumped the fuel in a spectacular manouvre.
I'm used to watching the skies (I used to be a bit of an amateur astronomer) but I must admit that I was baffled at the time - I had never previously seen this manouvre and it looked like nothing I could identify.

11th November-ish, last year

http://revver.com/video/478649/defense-department-rocket-fuel-dump-during-the-taurid-meteor-shower/

Well, it could have been an angel of some description: better that it wasn't. ed.

Nice footage Smile

Being based at Cosford for a while we used to see some amazing sights in the sky, especially at the airshows there. The lads who were testing new aircraft were great too.

i know that there is a life on the other planet. just like roswell accident that is the fact alien is a real

I accept that (I explicitly said that NASA is part of the military complex) - that was not my point.
The point I was making is about funding. NASA is underfunded in the opinion of many who are interested in Space. The budgets for NASA are published and analysed every year.
If we are to believe that NASA is hiding secrets about ET then it seems strange that NASA's budget has not risen significantly over the last decade. If I were heading up NASA and I had evidence that there were 'little green men' out there, then I can guarantee that I would secure a large increase in funding from whatever administration happened to be in power - it would be a no-brainer.
As it happens NASA is stuck with outdated technology which is poorly designed for purpose (the shuttle) and some remnants of a barking-mad scheme from a former administration for 'star wars'. If the administration has contact with, or knowledge of, alien technology I would have thought they could do much better....

Also if they are so short of funding how do they plan to pay for the moon base in 2020? Surely there is going to be massive investment for NASA to achieve this.

Wonder where that's coming from....

I have seen myself and my friends / parents / relative have seen me and accepted that they have not seen a alien....

Probably i need to see you Very Happy

. THen we can decide on Aliens exist or not.... This is not E.T. or Independence day !!!! We are in the World - Earth.

People may speak facts about Alients Rolling Eyes

[video footages or appearances in the sky, etc]. But nobody knows the truth if those appearance were man-made or made by nature or some other illusions... Iam speaking about Truth with solid facts.... 5 seconds footage with one hour video programme will not work out to prove these...

As far as i believe, there is no alien...

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Hi all, anyone watching NASA TV? Anomolous object sighted 16.45 GMT. Confirmed by capcom asking astonaut if they saw it...

I have the audio recording.. I will upload in a bit for you to hear.... The video didn't record tho through realplayer....

So NASA didn't hit the 'off switch' then? Smile

They did switch the camera angle 15 minutes ago when 2 lights appeared. 1 light to start with then another brighten up about an inch away( compared to looking at the screen).

Audio from above:-

http://www.humyo.com/F/82197837

It's in a Realplayer format, hopefully someone can extract the video. Also if someone could edit it to the relevant portions (1.15 - 2.40 mins). then I can re-upload as is 15Meg at mo...

Sorry - can't handle IVR files for conversion...can convert just about anything else but not IVR

I tried everything myself... Couldn't get anything to convert it or cut it down..

Nasa have just finished their briefing now, so here's what happened today.

1st sighting 16.45. Astronauts were installing the Columbus module. The camera was wide angle with astronauts central. Object drifted from top of 3rd 3rd (right) of screen down pulsing white all the way until exited the field of view (this is the recorded audio in the file)

2nd approx 17.10. Close up of module and astronauts, deep space to left-hand side of picture. Spot of light appears, bout 3 seconds later another light brightens about an inch away from first (inch on screen). Camera then changes to another view. (nothing said by capcom).

3rd approx 17.18. Object travels straight down centre of image. I caught these screen grabs..

http://www.humyo.com/82226313

Very indistinct on the grabs but if I had to guess I would say either satellite or space-junk..

Yeah I was about to say wiki had some stuff about controversy over Sitchens ideas. He just seems to have too much information there for any of it to be widely regarded as true and I not have heard of any of it yet.

There is a lot of evidence and having looked into it i'm listing the following as the occurrences that are most convincing that they do exist. These examples assume the craft sighted were to advanced for humans to be sitting inside.
(1)Belgium UFO flap 1990
Air force General in charge of scrambling jets can't explain the sighting.
Evidence:
Official really close up picture of triangular craft
Radar recordings
Scrambled Jets pilots witnesses
(2)Mexico moving fleet of ufos on film. Distant solid objects moving together. Equipment used was cameras used normally foe recording drug trafficking between us and Mexico.(2004)
(3)Phoenix lights (1997). Huge solid craft overflying phoenix, Arizona. Eye witnesses numerous including state governer.
(4)2 weekends of suspended craft sighted over the whitehouse. Forced President of the united states
to make statements including "these present no threat" (1952)
Shocked

And many many many more .... Most recent STS 122 flight.. Just search YouTube for STS 122 or NASA TV. Or any of my previous posts.

I agree theres a lot out there.
Theres a growing mound of hoaxes and time wasters though as the power of image manipulation becomes more prevalent unfortunately.
I cant view the video of STS 122 at the moment but authorative sources are useful as a "filter" Exclamation

yes i do, i believe in outter space life.. but no ovnis nor abductions, i don't think someone that someone that can fly at superspeed would land here just to see some stupid life forms like us...

Here's a good example of military sighting.

January 12th 2007, London Military Air Traffic Control contacted a
flight of US Air Force F-15s out of RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, UK, to intercept an
unknown target they had picked up on radar at 3000 to 4000ft altitude.

Audio Recording.
http://www.uforeview.co.uk/F15sANDUFO.wav

for all those people who think there's no life beyond earth.. think about this..

evolution is defined as "A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form." Dictionary. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2007, 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

thus when there are bacteria present... that means it may eventually evolve to complex eukaryotes such as human being. it might take a long time to happen but eventually it will get there

now let's look at the living conditions. earth belongs to a system that depends on constant energy from a source, and our solar system got the sun to provide us the basic need of energy. many prokaryotes and eukaryotes such as trees evolved to take in the heat energy and convert carbon dioxide to sugar and water, this process is called photosynthesis. and thus the cycle was made available to animals which allow many other living creatures to evolve.

you may think ok... so where's the bacteria from? no one knew the answer to that.. but one thing for sure is that you are here and u came from the 4.5billion years of evolution. the universe is around 13 million years old thus serving 3 times the evolution which we had. so why cant alien exist?

You know what would be a good way to show the possibility of a superior race? If we as humans, could choose one out of the million+ species we have on Earth, and try to make it intelligent. I know we already experiment with gaining knowledge and understanding of animals like chimpanzees, birds, and others, but to "genetically manipulate" a species to further it along the evolutionary timeline. I dont know if we have that technology yet and it is certainly tip-toeing along an ethics tightrope, but if we could say, take border collies and manipulate their genes to make them intelligent to the comparison of neanderthals-- (I say a breed of dog because for one some border collies have vocabularies of hundreds of words and two, if we ever did do this than we would look back on the situation knowing thats man's best friend was vieing for this spot the whole time)-- , then we could definitely harbor the idea that our evolution was helped along by a superior race and other homo-versions were just them trying to get it right. Entertaining idea or pure rubbish?

http://www.mars-earth.com/sitchin.htm

Well, i think michael jordan is an alien, but until i see one, i wont believe in aliens….. There must be life somewhere in the universe, but where??? Who knows…

ive seen a ufo once and it was the scariest sh!t i have ever whitnessed. Not a day goes by i dont think about what i saw. What are they doing here. Why dont they hide when they visit? It confuses my mind to think about it. I dont even like to talk about what i saw because i think its terrifing. To me anyway.... I never really believed it untill i saw it with my own eyes and i was with 3 other people. Really after what i had seen i wished i could un-see it.

I've also seen a UFO before and while it didn't scare me, it certianly surprised me like hell.

I certainly believe in alien life. Hell, there's species on Earth that still remain undiscovered and we're supposed to know our planet well. The staggering numbers of planets, stars, galaxies, and possibly universes make it almost impossible to think Earth is the only planet that has produced intelligent life in the fifteen billion year history of this universe.

noooooooooo aliens just can't be real they were created by ppl's imaginations and grew bigger and bigger

I do believe that it is quite possible that there is other life on other planets considering we don't know a WHOLE lot about space, even though we do seem to know a lot. There is such a thing as area 51 that isn't fenced or sealed, but is however heavily guarded with infantry. I don't know if the US is hiding anything but it doesn't really matter. I'm more concerned with what's going on with our own species than worrying about what's going on on other planets. But considering we are all made of "star dust" it is quite possible that on another planet (they found a planet called dionisus (SP?) that has running water and oxygen, the things necessary for life as we know it) there is some kind of life considering that there are millions of other planets in the universe and we barely know what's inside the other planets in our solar system except for the elements they see with a spectrograph (i'm taking astronomy class lol) so yeah I believe there is such a thing as aliens that we perhaps havn't interacted with but sooner or later we may. Who knows? Cool

i do belive in alien because god create too many planet in the sky...but i also believe we are ( Mankind ) are the highest evolution that god gives....so the alien out there is 3 step behind and still evoluting.....dont worry aliens will invasion on earth but believe that we will travel to another planet someday..cause everyday earth source will empty...

dont think alien look like mars attack or ET...just think that alien somewhere on their planet still looking an evolution to growth...there is so many planet that have similiar solar system like us...so..maybe they are just like we do in 100 millions years ago....how..? Very Happy

aliens comes from hollywood...it represent their fear ....but if we look on our religion, every religion says that we are the highest living thing on galaxy...so i believe that aliens somewhere out there still looking or still processing like we do...may be they still be a single cell..with quiet ocean ( THEY STILL CALL "ALIENS" right ???)

lol Alliens is as some ppl already said a way to make a lot of money...

It's a sci-fi invention the traditional image we have from alliens... weird looking guys with big eyes who come in peace :p

But think about this, the universe is extremely big so there could be other life forms out there...

Alien comes from alienus,a,um : latin for Different... so allien is just someone who is different, not from here...

anyway it would be nice if there were alliens out there... but i supose i'm to much of a sci-fi geek saying that :p

I do not i think they would of contacted us by now it is a silly theroy.

I do not believe we are alone. Maybe there are other living things out there, just asking the same question as us. Or maybe, they already discovered us, and are waiting. I hope we will know some day Very Happy

I think that before we look for alliens, we should look at Earth first. We have so many things we can't prove right here, along with our undiscovered species. And looking at all our own ecosystems, especialy the ones out side the "goldie locks" conditions, would help us understand how allien ecosystems might work. It would be fun to meet some one so different from us and who was inteligent. Very Happy

Yes I believe. If there are so many planets in the universe why would Earth be the only one with intelligent species. Earth is very little in consideration with the universe.
We are not alone Laughing

I do believe that aliens exist somewhere 'out there'.

Now having made that statement, I have to give my definition of 'alien'.

A creature of non-terrestrial origin.

That does not automatically mean that the alien in question would be capable of space travel, or even that it would be an intelligent creature.

Any aliens we ever did find could just as well be as simple as a one celled creature (actually this would be closer to what we might find any time soon anyway) or a something similar to an insect, fish, plant or even a fungus. A little tiny ''non-intelligent'' critter just living its life the same way all the critters on our planet are just living their lives. They would look different, of course, because of their environment and their adaptations to their environment.

Do I believe that intelligent, space traveling aliens exist? I don't know. It's fun to think they do and I hope they do. It would be ''fascinating'' to say the least if there really were an entire community of space going creatures out there just waiting to be discovered, such as in Star Trek or Star Wars.

... and who's to say they're NOT waiting to see if we don't manage to blow ourselves up, and we finally do manage to make it out beyond the limits of our own tiny solar system.

Chad

I thinks there is life like systems exists in other parts of universe.
Just like we developed there may be a self depending system

living according to the forces/fields acting on that planets

i have not seen them, but thinks if they exists they will be
friendly to human

There are NO aliens!!! In the univers there are only rocks, planets and stars!

I'm convinced that there must be something happening out there - not just intelligent life as we might imagine it(always in our own picture right??) - but hopefully way more intelligent than us Wink

No, but really I kinda expect any existence of otherworldly life, to be nothing like what has happened on earth. Well maybe there are similarities somewhere, but other than that there could be totally unfathomable beings; as science so far haven't figured out the deal with the proportions of the universe etc., in the same way maybe not all variations of 'life' can be comprehended by us...

if you can imagine the width of the universe (which is impossible to do) and if we are able now to find water on a planet called mars which is so nearby then of course i believe there should be some form of life somewhere in the universe.
If you would ask me if we would ever see it, or if i'd think it looks like those cartoonic aliens then i must say no definately not...

But it keeps people busy thinking bout it, and we'll never know: maybe our children will some day Smile

I feel sure that aliens must exist, but the chances that we ever come into contact of one are incredibly small.

This is an interesting topic and i would like to give an opinion.
Well, If there are no Aliens, What good is the space in the universe for?
Anyway, I believe there is and they live amongst us,we cannot see them.
Some People call them ghosts.

I thinks there is life like systems exists in other parts of universe.

I don't believe in government conspiracy theories. Don't think they got the brains for it! But I do believe that aliens exist. I mean if we evolved like this on earth due to the situations here, in some other planet or galaxy, creatures could have evolved differently. Or may have evolved billions of years ago and might be like an upgraded version of ourselves.

We drink water coz our body is designed that way. Aliens might drink methane or something instead of water. Who knows? I think NASA is too stupid for believing that only water is the basic neccessity for life to evolve.

Yes there is no doubt aliens exist.

Frank Drakes equation:

N = R x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L

R is the rate at which stars have been born in the Milky Way per year.
fp is the fraction of these stars that have solar systems of planets.
ne is the average number of "Earthlike" planets (potentially suitable for life) in the typical solar system.
fl is the fraction of those planets on which life actually forms.
fi is the fraction of life-bearing planets where biological evolution produces an intelligent species.
fc is the fraction of intelligent species that become capable of interstellar radio communication.
L is the average lifetime of a communicating civilization in years.

We can estimate the first term, have a guess at the second and speculate about the third. The value for the last 4 terms could be anything from 0 (not including Earth) upwards.
I wonder, then, how do you arrive at the conclusion that alien life is certain?

Probability can never be 1.
But the likelyhood is extremely high.
Lets make it higher in our minds because the concept is , in some ways, hard to grasp.

When we say "aliens" no-one specified their intelligence we could be talking microbes here.