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gnomme
Does any one notice the average load of server 2?
Blaster
Server 2 has always had a high overload... Its because some users are hosting big files and this is causing problems.
gnomme
Blaster wrote:
Server 2 has always had a high overload... Its because some users are hosting big files and this is causing problems.

So then the solution is simple...ban those users
tidruG
gnomme wrote:
Blaster wrote:
Server 2 has always had a high overload... Its because some users are hosting big files and this is causing problems.

So then the solution is simple...ban those users

If the solution was simple, don't you think we would have done something about it already?
It's not as simple as it appears, but thank you for the advice.
FunDa
Server 2 is offline quite often. But it seems the DirectAdmin uptime thingie doesn't notice that ...

Confused
tidruG
FunDa wrote:
Server 2 is offline quite often. But it seems the DirectAdmin uptime thingie doesn't notice that ...

Confused

That's because the downtime lasts only about 1 minute.
It's the hourly Apache restart which happens every hour and lasts for about a minute or two. It's currently what's keeping server 2 stable. In the future, we should be able to get rid of the hourly restarts as well.
FunDa
tidruG wrote:
FunDa wrote:
Server 2 is offline quite often. But it seems the DirectAdmin uptime thingie doesn't notice that ...

Confused

It's the hourly Apache restart which happens every hour and lasts for about a minute or two. It's currently what's keeping server 2 stable


Oh !!! Shocked
ncwdavid
tidruG wrote:

That's because the downtime lasts only about 1 minute.
It's the hourly Apache restart which happens every hour and lasts for about a minute or two. It's currently what's keeping server 2 stable. In the future, we should be able to get rid of the hourly restarts as well.


I am on server 2 and I dont mind the restarts but obviously it would be alot better without them so I am just wondering does anyone know how long it will be until server 2 does not have the restarts anymore? Just approximately because it would be really good just to have a rough idea.
FunDa
And is there any way, we can inform visitors that the page will be back after a minute.

Because my friends told me my site doesn't exist, when they saw it was down ... (obviously, they somehow checked at the exact minute the server decided to restart!)
Hogwarts
FunDa wrote:
And is there any way, we can inform visitors that the page will be back after a minute.

Because my friends told me my site doesn't exist, when they saw it was down ... (obviously, they somehow checked at the exact minute the server decided to restart!)

No.

It's the apache restart - Apache being the program that sends the webpages to a users browser (In crude terms).

You would not be able to do anything about that, and the best thing to do would be to stop the apache restart - Although I can't see that happening anytime soon.

I'm not really fussed about that though.
alexdude
I have never noticed a problem and I'm on server 2. It might be because most of my site has content offsite, like on youtube, ebaums.
FunDa
alexdude wrote:
I have never noticed a problem and I'm on server 2. It might be because most of my site has content offsite, like on youtube, ebaums.



Nope. it doesn't work like that. Your URL will give a server not responding message. Since it happens only once an hour for 60 seconds, u won't notice it unless u were trying to post something into yuor blog at the time and the long article u typed into the editor is Lost in Cyberspace. Sad
JayBee
it is really horrible
Bondings
JayBee, I just removed the account which causing the high server load and the server load is back to normal now. With free hosting, there is always some abuse that you can't (easily) avoid. My apologies for this.
JayBee
Bondings wrote:
JayBee, I just removed the account which causing the high server load and the server load is back to normal now. With free hosting, there is always some abuse that you can't (easily) avoid. My apologies for this.


Sorry for my post. I didn't mean it bedly. I was only surprised with this number.

My experience is, when my desktop reach load 5 it means that something goes wrong. Smile
FunDa
Bondings wrote:
JayBee, I just removed the account which causing the high server load and the server load is back to normal now.


Wow, brilliant Bondings !! Cool

The load went down from 19.81 to 0.40 (at this point of time)

Does this mean that the hourly restarts can be done away with now ??? Just askng Smile [/img]
Bondings
@FunDa, I'll try to change it to every 2 hours and see what it gives.

Unfortunately yet another abuse case both on server 1 and server 2 causing quite some problems.
Arnie
What the heck do these people run on their accounts anyway, causing such lag?
Bondings
Arnie wrote:
What the heck do these people run on their accounts anyway, causing such lag?

Spam bots, hacking scripts, mp3's that get downloaded a lot, phishing and others. Sometimes also a script specifically designed to take all server resources, like a fork script.
FunDa
Can we be of any help in finding the culprits ? Maybe some script can track which accounts are taking too much load, then all members can keep checking if that site is good or bad - and report to the moderators. Question
j14fusion14
Bondings wrote:
Arnie wrote:
What the heck do these people run on their accounts anyway, causing such lag?

Spam bots, hacking scripts, mp3's that get downloaded a lot, phishing and others. Sometimes also a script specifically designed to take all server resources, like a fork script.


Is their a way to stop them?
ncwdavid
j14fusion14 wrote:
Bondings wrote:
Arnie wrote:
What the heck do these people run on their accounts anyway, causing such lag?

Spam bots, hacking scripts, mp3's that get downloaded a lot, phishing and others. Sometimes also a script specifically designed to take all server resources, like a fork script.


Is their a way to stop them?


Of course there is a way to stop them but when a user signs up there is really no way of knowing what they are going to host on there account until they get there hosting account and start uploading. But it must not be too easy if it took so long to find out who was causing the problems on server 2 and the user must be manually removed. I don't think there is a script that can automaticaly find who is abusing the system.
FunDa
ncwdavid wrote:
I don't think there is a script that can automaticaly find who is abusing the system.


But the server can log which scripts are running when the server load exceeds a limit we choose.

Say, we tell the server -

Written in FunDaScript Wink
Code:

when (serverload > 6)
{
     LogToFile("Active scripts : "+activescripts"");
     InformMods("Server detected a peak load when these scripts were running. Check out these scripts for illegal activities : "+LogFile);
}


Or something like that
DandDer
the load average is still alot higher than server 1, while its running fine isnt their a way to make some stuff on server 2 go onto server 1
Animal
DandDer wrote:
the load average is still alot higher than server 1, while its running fine isnt their a way to make some stuff on server 2 go onto server 1

No. Server 1 and Server 2 are completely independent of one another. This would not be possible, and probably wouldn't be particularly useful either.
WallBase
OMG, this server is SLOW:::::: its take 10 m for 5 wallpapers to upload.. omg... why, all my walls is not bigger than, 1 mb, most are 500 kb
Arnie
Tried FTP?
WallBase
ehh Very Happy, no dont know how i do it
Bondings
WallBase wrote:
OMG, this server is SLOW:::::: its take 10 m for 5 wallpapers to upload.. omg... why, all my walls is not bigger than, 1 mb, most are 500 kb

It might have been the server, but I highly doubt it. Most home upload connections of isps are very slow, mostly 256Kbps or less. However, 10 minutes is indeed weird.
Arnie
It seems he doesn't use FTP - I wonder if uploading using the HTTP file manager is slower.

Wallbase: download FTP Commander from here, take the Free version (not Deluxe/Pro). Install and run the application.

It'll start with 2 main sections: on the left you can browse through your local hard drive(s), and on the right is a server list. By default the server list is filled with common FTP sites like ftp.redhat.com , ftp.microsoft.com , etc. But you have to connect to your Frihost site, so click the New Server button. Specify the following info (any field that I don't mention, leave it as it is by default):
Name = Frihost
FTP Server = ftp.frih.net
User ID = wallbase (if you have wallbase.frih.net)
Password = ^ password corresponding to your account login
[V] Passive mode checked

Click the Save button when you're done. Now in the server list there'll be the option Frihost: double-click on it to start the FTP connection. After a few seconds the server list will disappear and you should get a directory listing on the right of the window instead. Double-click public_html. On your left hand you can still browse through the directories of your local computer. To upload a file, select it on the left tab and click the arrow that points to the right. To download a file, select it on the right tab and click the arrow that points to the left. These arrows I'm talking about are 2 buttons in the center of the window, in between the left and the right section.

When you're done, click Disconnect (top left of the window).
WallBase
Bondings wrote:
WallBase wrote:
OMG, this server is SLOW:::::: its take 10 m for 5 wallpapers to upload.. omg... why, all my walls is not bigger than, 1 mb, most are 500 kb

It might have been the server, but I highly doubt it. Most home upload connections of isps are very slow, mostly 256Kbps or less. However, 10 minutes is indeed weird.


yeah Rolling Eyes about that, i might have a bad internett that day so im sorry for that message!!! Embarassed
WallBase
Arnie wrote:
It seems he doesn't use FTP - I wonder if uploading using the HTTP file manager is slower.

Wallbase: download FTP Commander from here, take the Free version (not Deluxe/Pro). Install and run the application.

It'll start with 2 main sections: on the left you can browse through your local hard drive(s), and on the right is a server list. By default the server list is filled with common FTP sites like ftp.redhat.com , ftp.microsoft.com , etc. But you have to connect to your Frihost site, so click the New Server button. Specify the following info (any field that I don't mention, leave it as it is by default):
Name = Frihost
FTP Server = ftp.frih.net
User ID = wallbase (if you have wallbase.frih.net)
Password = ^ password corresponding to your account login
[V] Passive mode checked

Click the Save button when you're done. Now in the server list there'll be the option Frihost: double-click on it to start the FTP connection. After a few seconds the server list will disappear and you should get a directory listing on the right of the window instead. Double-click public_html. On your left hand you can still browse through the directories of your local computer. To upload a file, select it on the left tab and click the arrow that points to the right. To download a file, select it on the right tab and click the arrow that points to the left. These arrows I'm talking about are 2 buttons in the center of the window, in between the left and the right section.

When you're done, click Disconnect (top left of the window).



Tnx so much... ...
WallBase
mhm, how do i get wallpapers on a page? just do the same as before.. oooooooooor??
im sooo newbie on this
Embarassed
Arnie
You upload the image files and implement them in your HTML page using <img>.
cosmicx
Server 2 is down for few times in these few hours.
Wonder is it any server maintenance, the apache restart or any other problems? Rolling Eyes
WallBase
bah i hate it... its always when my peeps get my url and the site is down^^,) but why is Server 2 down so often??
m-productions
what is the avg load time for server 2 on good days, it seems to be a lot higher than server 1 right now (in fact its 16.73 higher) iv never noticed the load time on the sig before xD i only looked at if it was up or down.
Bondings
cosmicx wrote:
Server 2 is down for few times in these few hours.
Wonder is it any server maintenance, the apache restart or any other problems? Rolling Eyes

It wasn't responding due to an abused account taking all the bandwidth and server resources and it took a while as a server restart was needed.
regards
Oh, I didn't realise the hosting problem of FRIH is so serious until now. The server 2 is really overloaded. Is there similar cases in server 1 too? Is it possible for FRIHost to have Server 3 soon?
On the other hand, I find using FTP to upload a website is quick and convient. I can't tell why the guy don't know FTP, anf his patient using HTML to upload. That seems to me horrible!

Wink Regards
LukeakaDanish
Frankly, server 2 is being slower than a donkeys ass today...restarting / not responding / whatever its doing REALLY often...

@Bondings: I think a case can be made for, if frihost ever gets a server3, only to move "trusted" users onto it and keep unproven users on server 2 - the way its treating me today is not very convenient at all.
Psycho_X52
My site has been rejected by some services and directories because it wasn't accessible....

Anyway, after Sunday (or Saturday) downtime my site system displays
Code:
Web server   Apache
Unable to determine your web server type and version. System might not work properly.

Code:
warning: parse_ini_file() has been disabled for security reasons in /home/psycho~/domains/generalitati.net/public_html/roots/includes/module.inc on line 195.
Arnie
LukeakaDanish wrote:
@Bondings: I think a case can be made for, if frihost ever gets a server3, only to move "trusted" users onto it and keep unproven users on server 2 - the way its treating me today is not very convenient at all.
Actually that could also be done with server 1. Would balance the load a bit more even anyway!
FunDa
Can I go to server 1 ? Smile

Pretty please . . . . Very Happy
Animal
At the moment, all new accounts are created on Server 2 and we do not transfer users between servers.
WallBase
mhm but WHY is server 2 so slow... and sometimes down, i never been told???

i had 3 downtimes and some slow uploading... but im happy that i have a web and i dont care if im on server 2, its just the small things!
ofc it can be slow, and stuff like that, but be happy that you have an account on server 2... Rolling Eyes
alkutob
Whatever was the reason ... there is something we have to be aware to and never ignore it ... it is respecting the rules .

This great service is found to serve all of us , so no need to betray the trust that gave to us by cheeting and try to deal with big files ...
Every bad thing will be discovered even it took more time .

Thank you
Arnie
That is certainly true. However leveling the load over both servers would be much more efficient. What's the point in having 2 servers if you hardly use one?

I say balancing it more evenly would be a win-win situation for Frihost and its users. Frihost could offer services to more users at better quality and would probably have a lot less server 2 problems.

The only reasons I can think of why it's not being done is:
- because there could be licensing issues with some commercial software on server 1 (not allowing more users);
- because linking server 1 to the registration system would require a lot of scripting.
ranzon
Talking about overload?

someone totally kills that server!
WallBase
yeah i agree to Arnie says...

Wink
regards
Hey, Bonding had mentioned that this is a trush bin in the CPanel, but I couldn't find it. Can anybody tell where is it? I'd want to contribute a little help to the overload issue, so as to make the server ran faster.

Wink Regards
WallBase
Server 2 is in hard days now.. mhm its on 10.4, isnt this to much!!!??
the server is up and down evry 15 mi-... mhm someone must have sooome biiig files!!
mathiaus
regards wrote:
Hey, Bonding had mentioned that this is a trush bin in the CPanel, but I couldn't find it. Can anybody tell where is it? I'd want to contribute a little help to the overload issue, so as to make the server ran faster.

Wink Regards

Server 2 uses Direct Admin rather than cPanel which works differently. You don't have a trash bin.
WallBase
And now im very Evil or Very Mad bec the server 2 is soon overload. please check the ppls who have big files... its over 50.8 36.6 26.1 is that normal?
Hogwarts
WallBase wrote:
ehh ok, why u say all this.. nothing with this topic to do...
mhm

abd now im very Evil or Very Mad bec the server 2 is soon overload. please check the ppls who have big files... its over 50.8 36.6 26.1 is that normal?

That is definitely not normal. My dedicated server generally has an extremely low load compared to that.

By the way, were those posts really necessary? I received 4 topic reply notifications because of you Evil or Very Mad

Edit: No, WallBase, I do not mean you. I'm talking about that spammer who posted 4 times in this topic for no reason.
WallBase
from me?? hmm, yeah bec i have a downtime on 1 h Wink on sunday, and now its often this happens, evry day now.. bah Sad Sad
Animal
WallBase wrote:
i have a downtime on 2 h on sunday, and now its often this happens, evry day now.. bah Sad Sad

According to the Hosting Monitor Log, there was nothing like a 2 hour downtime on Sunday - if this is the case with your site, it's likely to have been a problem with something specifically on your site, and not the server.
WallBase
mhm its was down, i chouldt connect DirectAdmin or my website.. mhm maybe its was my pc..
Bondings
Wallbase, if I remember correctly, it was indeed down (not actually down, just mostly not responding) for a while due to a high load caused by one of the accounts. I'm not sure if it took 2 hours though, at least not from what I remember.
WallBase
mhm yeah right, ok not right 2 h Wink
but it was overloaded! thats for sure!

mhm but can you talk to the account man that he is overloading the server, it not a problem, but its annoying that the server is overload sometimes, and its evry time I shall fix or look at it.. Razz Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
friuser
I am on server 2 and it's frequently down. Down as in it's working all well in one moment and BAM no longer functioning saying unable to connect. a few minutes later working just fine and BAM same thing again. This can happen several times per hour.

I know there's a 2 hour reboot or maybe that was changed but anymore news on when the site will be reliable. I like the hosting but it's not reliable and it's very annoying refreshign till the site works again even if it's a minute or two. I don't think many people bother if it weren't their own site.
SpellcasterDX
Honestly, it's not that bad. All those people complaining about the horrible downtimes/speeds, what do you expect? This is a free host making money off of ads placed on the forums and not on your sites. Maybe Bondings makes a little extra cash in real life that he uses for the servers. I don't know. But, really, the server isn't that bad. Sure it goes down for a minute or two every hour or two, but, that's due to the fact something's up with Server 2.

Anyway, personally, I think server 2 is doing a lot better now than it was when I first signed up last year.
friuser
that's not funny. i mean looking at your site. half of it is hosted on freewebs so it has to be a problem for you to only frame frih.net into your freewebs acccount.
cosmicx
Server 2 is down for some time now...any one got idea on that?
FunDa
Somebody . Help .
Server 2 is not working My site fundazone.com was not working for atleast 4 hours now I think.


Even frih.net is not working Shocked

Has the server popped off ? Is Bondings out there ? Help !!!!
m-productions
http://frihost-server-status.us.to/

use that link, you will know that the server is down, also, read the topic in the webhost support, we are all aware of this problem, and so are some mods, however, noone as of right now can do anything about it, or contact bondings.
MYP415
Quote:
Somebody . Help .
Server 2 is not working My site fundazone.com was not working for atleast 4 hours now I think.


Even frih.net is not working Shocked

Has the server popped off ? Is Bondings out there ? Help !!!!
Actually, server 2 sites have been down since about 10:30 (EST) last night which is over 13 hours. Hopefully it will be fixed soon...

edit: It seems to be back up now
Bondings
MYP415 wrote:
Quote:
Somebody . Help .
Server 2 is not working My site fundazone.com was not working for atleast 4 hours now I think.


Even frih.net is not working Shocked

Has the server popped off ? Is Bondings out there ? Help !!!!
Actually, server 2 sites have been down since about 10:30 (EST) last night which is over 13 hours. Hopefully it will be fixed soon...

edit: It seems to be back up now

Yes it was down for long, but has been up now for 6 hours. Wink
FunDa
Thank you !!!

I got a backup even when Apache was down by going through fundazone.com:2222 instead of cp.frih.net

Just a tip for anyone in this situation again

FTP was also online - but I didn't have any FTP clients installed nor the Admin access to the comp [Smile]
All's well that ends well !
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