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England to be bombed again?






Do you think England will be bombed again?
yes
58%
 58%  [ 14 ]
no
41%
 41%  [ 10 ]
Total Votes : 24

[SP]HaloClan
Does anyone think englad will be bombed again? If you want to express your opinion, post in this thread. if you just want to vote, then vote!
nasirmansoor
Well i am really not sure if it would happen again or not ..
It all depends on how Englands takes new things

Like i read it somewhere that the bombers main target was to take revenege against british occupation in Iraq
so if england really cares about safety they should withdraw from iraq since they hav no legitimate reason to stay there
S3nd K3ys
nasirmansoor wrote:
Well i am really not sure if it would happen again or not ..
It all depends on how Englands takes new things

Like i read it somewhere that the bombers main target was to take revenege against british occupation in Iraq
so if england really cares about safety they should withdraw from iraq since they hav no legitimate reason to stay there


England has had a lot worse, and will likely have worse in the future. They're not cowards and will likely do just the opposite of what you say they should do. Wink
hrtorrent
[SP]HaloClan wrote:
Does anyone think englad will be bombed again? If you want to express your opinion, post in this thread. if you just want to vote, then vote!


I don't know will be bombed again or not (I hope not!), but i know this!

After bombing England and Eagiptus, and treating in Italy, tourisam in Croatia grow 150%. Croatia is small, pure country with good relationships with all countries. And it's SAFE. Safe for vacation!!!

Bye the way, I think therorisam IS NOT solution!!!! War against terorisam IS NOT solution too!!!! Only dialog and trust can solve all problems!
S3nd K3ys
hrtorrent wrote:
... War against terorisam IS NOT solution too!!!! Only dialog and trust can solve all problems!


Dialog?

Trust?

With terrorists?

Are you serious??

Where have you been for the last 25 years? (Oh, wait, you're prolly under 20) In that case, have a look here for a brief history on terrorist attacks against the US, and look here for other attacks in the last 30-40 years.)

Is this the dialog you're talking about?



Or this?



One thing you're correct about, terrorism is NOT the solution, it's the PROBLEM!, and war on terrorism is the only soltion remaining when dealing with these people who, by definition, target women and children in their 'wars' and refuse to 'dialog' with the governments they're mad at for what ever reason.
shr3dd
I can understand some people being against the war, maybe having relatives serving, or plain dislike of people dying. I don't like people dying, no one does. Because of that we have to be at war, these rebels kill our people, so we must put a stop to it. The reason England was in Iraq is because they are our allies, that's what allies do. Now that they've been bombed, they have MORE of a reason.

I think industrial growth and technological advances have blinded people of reality. Take a look in our history book, the world's journal. How many wars have been waged, and how many people died. Look at the crusades, how many people died in those? Let me pose another interesting question. Take one of these countries, any one, that was in a past war, I'm talking pre-America, how many Kings and rulers were called liars and evil by half of their own people? How many different Kings had a whole system of people set out to restrain their progress. No other civilization has acted this war towards their leader, and it's not just Bush, remember our good ol' friend Nixon? Nixon did great things in the current war and to help the US's relationship with Russia (then U.S.S.R.) and the libs hated him for it, so they took him down. What we are seeing is a weaker democratic party trying to pull the same shit.

Back to the topic... I think England will be bombed again basically because they are doing something right and until we put a nail in these terrorists' coffins, they will try to attack us. We should pull out some midevil shit and surround Iraq, feed the citizens who are abiding by the rules, and the Insurgents we starve them. I know that won't work but you get the point, do whatever we need to do to end these attacks. BTW if you think a dialog will get these people to stop, you're wrong. See how long they want to talk when they put a bullet in your head or a knife through your throat. These people don't respond to words, they are like dogs, you can't have a discussion with a dog. It does something bad, pop it on the nose with a newspaper or something of the like. A terrorist group attacks us, what you have to do is bomb the shit out of them. Seek peace through superior firepower.
S3nd K3ys
shr3dd wrote:


I think industrial growth and technological advances have blinded people of reality. Take a look in our history book, the world's journal. How many wars have been waged, and how many people died. Look at the crusades, how many people died in those? ...


I feel I should expand slightly on this thought...

The US has spent BILLIONS in developing weapons that greatly reduce the number of civilian casualties. US soldeirs put their own lives at risk trying to prevent citizens from getting hurt.

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It does something bad, pop it on the nose with a newspaper or something of the like. A terrorist group attacks us, what you have to do is bomb the shit out of them. Seek peace through superior firepower.


Unfortunately, bombing them is harder than it seems. Terrorists do not have a 'country' to attack per say. They hide among civilians, in churches and schools. They do this because they know the US will not likely attack them there.

It is for this reason that I fully and unconditionally support racial profiling when dealing with terrorists.

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gtb
They better not bomb England again. I will never understand how the Islamic terrorsists think. "Hey, by bombing everyone that isn't Islam, Allah will love us and give Jerusalem"? I don't think so.
shr3dd
s3nd k3ys, the first statement of mine you quoted was a runaway thought which i didnt finish. i think because of civiliaztion being more advanced now than when past wars happened, people think that people shouldn't die in war. people act as if the US is immune to the repeating cycle of history.

about the second one you quoted, i am very aware that it is not one country to bomb, that seeking them out is very hard. in a previous (probably now locked) thread i defended the US's effort to find bin laden stating that its very hard to get past different sections of warlords to gain access to certain locations and the struggle against people who know the land 100 times better than we do.

remember, im not one of these liberal ass idiots who think CNN is god.
S3nd K3ys
shr3dd wrote:
s3nd k3ys, the first statement of mine you quoted was a runaway thought which i didnt finish. i think because of civiliaztion being more advanced now than when past wars happened, people think that people shouldn't die in war. people act as if the US is immune to the repeating cycle of history.

about the second one you quoted, i am very aware that it is not one country to bomb, that seeking them out is very hard. in a previous (probably now locked) thread i defended the US's effort to find bin laden stating that its very hard to get past different sections of warlords to gain access to certain locations and the struggle against people who know the land 100 times better than we do.



I know, I was stating that for the other's here. Wink

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remember, im not one of these liberal ass idiots who think CNN is god.




shr3dd
I think to really get through to people, we should be anti-american, hate Bush, hate republicans, get cornrows, and spray-paint a big red white and blue donkey on everything we own, oh yeah, and start wearing turbans.
druidbloke
we probably will be bombed again for some reason or another, we've never had a decade without bombs lol and no we're far from cowards, and to withdraw from iraq now would leave the place in chaos unfortunately, I just wish they would put civilians lives over there as top priority above everything else while they do their work.
mstreet
It's really hard to know what will happen or who will the next target will be. I'm not sure I can give an opinion on this one.
ujjeh
Well, I like English but there is lots of racism in it. That's what I heard. I don't think so it will bombed.
horseatingweeds
nasirmansoor wrote:

Like i read it somewhere that the bombers main target was to take revenege against british occupation in Iraq
so if england really cares about safety they should withdraw from iraq since they hav no legitimate reason to stay there


Are you an idiot? I have seen people on the tube that chant some rime equivalent to what you just said. I assumed these people, obviously with to much time on their hand, had nothing better to do and were completely stupid. You are not a complete idiot though. You did manage to put a thought together and type it. So let me set you straight.

Terrorist are like bullies on the play ground. They are mad! IT doesn’t mater why or at what because what ever it is, the bully can’t do anything about it anyway, that is why he bullies…or terrorizes. Giving him what he want will only encourage him, running will only make you more fun once he catches you, and fighting back on your is tough but it’s the only way out.
horseatingweeds
shr3dd wrote:

It is for this reason that I fully and unconditionally support racial profiling when dealing with terrorists.


Do two things for me S3nd. First, explain how racial profiling can possibly be beneficial, then, to make your thought valid, explain how a system of racial profiling can be successfully implemented.
druidbloke
its true there are racists here, but you get that everywhere, from people of any colour, end english are no worse or better, that was never the reason we were bombed, otherwise there would be bombs everywhere Bo) the reason we were bombed is for the simple reason we supported america in the campaign against bin laden and then saddam, simple as that.
Painshock
i voted for no because i sure hope there wont be any other bombings in England. UK is not the big danger to the Middle East, the US is. but the risk is always there as long as Tony Blair is doing what George W. Bush is telling him to do. the terrorists see UK as an ally of their worst enemy and so they must cause terror there too. if only things were different. someone should go there and tell Tony Blair to stop whatever hes doing with Bush, and that he should leave the US to take care of its own problems.
somnific
the july 7th bombings were a big mistake. Its a desperate measure to bomb the public. Perhaps they're intent was to disrupt public transport and the publics use of it. It also makes it hard to sympathise with they're cause. If they had half a brain between them , they would target financial instituions (yes people work there too- thats not the point), thats keeping your goals in focus. Perhaps tho , it is a retaliation for england and the us bombing civilian targets themselves , and not just legitimate targets ?


You have to think these things through
frankjack
i mean its nothing new right? nasty it certainly is but its been happening at least since world war two, and probably since the anarchists. no reason at all for it to stop now.
710ths
I certainly hope not, but recon its a definate. Islamic terrorsists are just hiding behind religion. They are just the scum of the earth
Jazz
I think England will be bombed again, because of the soldiers in Iraq, but i dont think they will stop even if the soldiers are withdrawn from Iraq. The terrorists are the real evil, if they want the soldiers withdrawn why are they bombing innocent people, what have they done to them, nothing!

It makes me so angry that people can be so selfish as to take other peoples lives away just because they cant get one of their own. I mean do we control what the government do, no, OK, OK, we may be the one who chose the leader but thats just because they say all the good things to offer, are they honest and say the bad things, no.

I feel sorry for the soldiers in Iraq because they had to stay there over Christmas when they could be spending it with their family, its not their fault that loads of them are being killed all the time. I am glad that Tony Blair is going to leave soon, and it better be soon I just cant bear the fact of innocent people getting killed anymore!

Suicide bombers act as if they have no brains, if they dont want to take their life away fine but dont take innocent peoples lives away.
gonzo
S3nd K3ys wrote:
hrtorrent wrote:
... War against terorisam IS NOT solution too!!!! Only dialog and trust can solve all problems!


Dialog?

Trust?

With terrorists?

Are you serious??


Cuz you know the ten year letter writing campaign to saddam insane worked oh so well!

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Where have you been for the last 25 years? (Oh, wait, you're prolly under 20) In that case, have a look


so? I needn't have lived history to know it.



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ketchup pussy

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yeah, and then bring in the eye gouging "justice".

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One thing you're correct about, terrorism is NOT the solution, it's the PROBLEM!,


How do you stop terrorists? Help them achieve their self destructive tendancies in a way that ensures MY safety Wink
blackheart
The IRA used to bomb the hell out of England. People didn't panic then like people do now - it's ridiculous.
madsencarl
Go Australia, we're safe from terrorist attacks. They'll bomb us, and then say "By Allah! All we hit was dirt!".
blackheart
madsencarl wrote:
Go Australia, we're safe from terrorist attacks. They'll bomb us, and then say "By Allah! All we hit was dirt!".


aren't you dead yet Question
(rip off the elderly and slander punk...)
Soulfire
nasirmansoor wrote:
Well i am really not sure if it would happen again or not ..
It all depends on how Englands takes new things

Like i read it somewhere that the bombers main target was to take revenege against british occupation in Iraq
so if england really cares about safety they should withdraw from iraq since they hav no legitimate reason to stay there


Yes, well, unlike too many panzy ass countries in the world, the UK backs their allies. Sorry for the outburst, but honestly.
druidbloke
I dont believe Blair is just being told what to do by george Bush, I think they believe in the same systems, thats capitalism and the use of christianity as a means to an end, so they will agree on these issues, most of England would have voted no to go to war with Iraq, but all their voices were ignored, thats not democracy, and if its I'm sure there is something better. We are still stuck with the roman mindset of thousands of years ago, all the power centralised to benefit a select few, the rest working for them.
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