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Overfeeding a child; abuse?
A mother in Britain may lose her eight-year-old child to social services for being an enabler in his rise to a dangerous level of obesity.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070226/ap_on_he_me/britain_child_obesity
In my opinion, this is perfectly legal and moral. What do you think?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070226/ap_on_he_me/britain_child_obesity
In my opinion, this is perfectly legal and moral. What do you think?
An update on this story:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070228/ap_on_re_eu/britain_child_obesity;_ylt=Aibr0njVICOJhTUvuN8jtPzMWM0F
(I think it's a little disturbing to listen to the kid.)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070228/ap_on_re_eu/britain_child_obesity;_ylt=Aibr0njVICOJhTUvuN8jtPzMWM0F
(I think it's a little disturbing to listen to the kid.)
I think taking the child from his mother would be just as bad as over-feeding him. It would make him unhappy and give him the wrong influences and lifestyle - he needs his mother and to be at home. Being taken away will damage him emotionally and he will almost certainly begin to fail at school or worse. I don't care what would happen to the mother as a result of their separation because she's pretty much evil.
The child wants to eat only junk food... Okay, so he obviously has no idea what it's doing to him. And he's obviously amazingly spoiled. He needs to be told about the effects that this will have on him, and how it will affect his health and shorten his life. If he doesn't care... Well then he should be forced to eat healthy food. You may say that this is evil, but is it really? He must be spoiled, therefore forcing him to eat healthy food will just be character building and very useful to him. If he refuses to eat the healthy food, then don't feed him - being his size and as spoiled as he msut be he'll soon give in to hunger and eat the food.
The mother should be taught what's right and not allowed to give her son unhealthy food or snacks of any kind. He doesn't need them, he just wants them. She must be extremely weak to not be able to give in to her son's requests for food.
If this doesn't work, for example he gets junk food from another source then he should be taken away and told that he will be taken back home when he ends his terrible habits. If this still doesn't work he should be allowed to die a miserable death because that's what he's asking for.
The child wants to eat only junk food... Okay, so he obviously has no idea what it's doing to him. And he's obviously amazingly spoiled. He needs to be told about the effects that this will have on him, and how it will affect his health and shorten his life. If he doesn't care... Well then he should be forced to eat healthy food. You may say that this is evil, but is it really? He must be spoiled, therefore forcing him to eat healthy food will just be character building and very useful to him. If he refuses to eat the healthy food, then don't feed him - being his size and as spoiled as he msut be he'll soon give in to hunger and eat the food.
The mother should be taught what's right and not allowed to give her son unhealthy food or snacks of any kind. He doesn't need them, he just wants them. She must be extremely weak to not be able to give in to her son's requests for food.
If this doesn't work, for example he gets junk food from another source then he should be taken away and told that he will be taken back home when he ends his terrible habits. If this still doesn't work he should be allowed to die a miserable death because that's what he's asking for.
Well, this should be waited out. Eventually the kid will have a heart attack and he'll learn his lesson about eating so much crap. Either that or the government should send someone to oversee what he's eating and force him to go on a vegan diet to thin him down quick.
I think his mother needs help in raising her child. She is complaining about her inability to control what he wants to eat. It could be that part of this help is separating him from his mother for some period of time!
Advice for mothers yes. If the continue to over feed then yes the goverment should get involved. I aren't skinny, but until i left home i was pretty healthy, but get your own house, you just cook what ever you want when you want. Now i am fighting against trying to get healthy again - but i would be p!ssed if i was too young to understand anf my parents were over feeding me so i was fat when i was only 12. Give parents advice, if they refuse the advice get goverments involved.
well mother should get help and the child shouldnt be taken away from his/her mother.the child will be sad.
No, I don't think the government should involve themselves unles it's life threatening.
Kid is just a spoiled little brat who doesn't want to listen.
Who called the services on the mother? The kid or neighbors?
I've seen kids his size in the US. Why you think MC D's was getting sued.
Kid is just a spoiled little brat who doesn't want to listen.
Who called the services on the mother? The kid or neighbors?
I've seen kids his size in the US. Why you think MC D's was getting sued.
Governments does not have anyother job isn't it ?? 
Overfeeding - In what way, is it hurting the government policies...
Are there any instances where a Child has died becos of overfeeding. I have never heard anything so... But i have heard so many that children are dying becos of NO FOOD.
In my personal opinion, atleast the mother feeds the child. Be happy... There will be a day, when the child grows up to speak, will say to mother, iam OK with whatever i had till now and it is enough and i can't take more.
Till then, mother will take care
Keep smiling
Overfeeding - In what way, is it hurting the government policies...
Are there any instances where a Child has died becos of overfeeding. I have never heard anything so... But i have heard so many that children are dying becos of NO FOOD.
In my personal opinion, atleast the mother feeds the child. Be happy... There will be a day, when the child grows up to speak, will say to mother, iam OK with whatever i had till now and it is enough and i can't take more.
Till then, mother will take care
Keep smiling
Childs are naturally bonded with they're blood parents.
If they're taken at a young age and it is for the best it's fine but just for loving it and because of a mistake. I'm sure right now they are trying to correct they're mistake and I'm sure that they do try. It also may be the childs fault?
In my opinion it's far to trivial for authorities to get involved and the goverment should seriously get a wake up call.
If they're taken at a young age and it is for the best it's fine but just for loving it and because of a mistake. I'm sure right now they are trying to correct they're mistake and I'm sure that they do try. It also may be the childs fault?
In my opinion it's far to trivial for authorities to get involved and the goverment should seriously get a wake up call.
| rheanna wrote: |
| I've seen kids his size in the US. Why you think MC D's was getting sued. |
McDonald's is in no way responsible for people being fat; people who place the blame for their own or others obesity on the restaurants (or fast-food shops, whatever) are making a big mistake. It's places like McDonald's that provide the unhealthy food (although now they're doing an okay job in making their food healthier - yet there is a long way to go) for people; they offer this service because they can profit from it as so many people want fast-food and as so many people like the food they offer. But they're not forcing anyone to eat there - no, they're just offering a service. So it's only the fault of the people who go to McDonald's and get fat, as they could simply have gone to somewhere which offers healthier options. Perhaps the situation arises that McDonald's is the only place a customer can reasonably go to get their lunch (or whatever meal), well that's not McDonald's fault so there's no grounds for suing, furthermore, the customer could easily make a packed lunch and eat that.
I'd like to make the point that eating unhealthy food or eating food from a restaurant such as McDonald's once in a while isn't bad for you, in the sense that it won't cause long term (or short term) healthy problems. However, a healthier meal would still be the better option.
| indianinworld wrote: |
| Overfeeding - In what way, is it hurting the government policies... |
Whether it has anything to do with government policies or not is totally irrelevant (plus, saying that the government shouldn't do anything about something because it's not "hurting" their policies is practically evil). A government (as so should a local council) should do what's best for its people and must make decisions about realities like this. If this is child abuse, then it's actually breaking the law anyway (and it is abusing the child, to be honest (as he couldn't make any decision not to be overfed when he was younger and now he refuses not to eat healthier food he's killing himself; his mother has the responsibility to protect him and she is the one [actively] letting him self harm and harming him herself). There's nothing wrong with letting him die, after all it doesn't matter in the end, but he's 8 years old and could still change his life around, although I expect he's knocked off at least a decade or 2 from his life).
| indianinworld wrote: |
| Are there any instances where a Child has died becos of overfeeding |
The simple answer is yes, but probably not 'instantly' as I'm assuming your question implies. It is possible to die from eating too much of one food type (or drinking too much of one liquid - people have died from drinking too much water in a hurry) - but this is rare, although it does happen. Overfeeding causes obesity, this extra weight puts extra strain on the heart, this in turn makes heart disease more likely in later life. Henceforth, people have died from overfeeding, but I suppose it's in an indirect form rather than an immediate effect. So overfeeding does kill.
| indianinworld wrote: |
| In my personal opinion, atleast the mother feeds the child. Be happy... There will be a day, when the child grows up to speak, will say to mother, iam OK with whatever i had till now and it is enough and i can't take more. |
The child is 8 now, he actively states that he doesn't want to eat healthy food. If he keeps going at this rate he has a chance of beating the half ton ban and dying before he reaches 30; if he's lucky he might get to 40. His habits seriously need to change if he is to have a good life, otherwise he might as well be put down (yes, I do mean killed with a drug), when looking at it from a utilitarian point of view. When you put love and happiness into the equation then you realise that his friends (I bet he hasn't got that many, not real friends) and family will actually go through less grief if he was put down, instead of having to go though years of having to support him through his health troubles later in the knowledge that they inflicted that evil. Furthermore, assuming that he's the same as all other people I've ever heard of who have been spoiled so crassly, he won't provide much more than annoyance for anyone else he comes into contact with. On the whole, he'll be a useless, irritating waste of space until he dies. Oh, and the mother should pay for the injection.
Okay, so maybe that's too harsh - I'm sure most of you will think so. After all, he didn't ask for this. But he is now... So what do you think? I am in no way saying that my above paragraph contains my own views, I am merely playing devil's advocate.
I would believe that a mother would see when their kid is to fat. What would happend when the boy is mooving out, will he eat to much?
But we cant only blame it on her, even he has to know and see in the end. But they should both know what over feeding, or eating will do to the body in the end
But we cant only blame it on her, even he has to know and see in the end. But they should both know what over feeding, or eating will do to the body in the end
The mother needs to learn more about parenting. It is a major disadvantage to the child to have him removed from his familly. Excersize and a diet of leafy green vegetables and balanced protein, carbs etc. should do the trick.
| rheanna wrote: |
| No, I don't think the government should involve themselves unles it's life threatening.
Kid is just a spoiled little brat who doesn't want to listen. Who called the services on the mother? The kid or neighbors? I've seen kids his size in the US. Why you think MC D's was getting sued. |
Whoa, hold on here, remember in 95% of cases its not the child's fault, Parents do strange things to children sometimes for unknown reasons, remember this is as bad as giving a thirteen year old breast implants. The only possible (and likely) thing I could think of here is plain and simple, its just what people find sexy, I remember reading an article outlining all the types of things people found sexy, feet, check bones, butts, fat was one of them, this could be a sexual abuse type thing, but then, I don't know - no-one does, only the boys mother.
And McDonald's shouldn't get sued, its peoples own stupid fault for eating there in the first place.
| LostOverThere wrote: |
| Whoa, hold on here, remember in 95% of cases its not the child's fault, Parents do strange things to children sometimes for unknown reasons, remember this is as bad as giving a thirteen year old breast implants. The only possible (and likely) thing I could think of here is plain and simple, its just what people find sexy, I remember reading an article outlining all the types of things people found sexy, feet, check bones, butts, fat was one of them, this could be a sexual abuse type thing, but then, I don't know - no-one does, only the boys mother. |
There's nothing hidden in this case, I'm afraid it's just a case of weak parenting. The mother said in interviews that she just couldn't say no to him, so basically she fed him too much when he was very young, I bet she even gave him healthy food to start with. But once he learned to talk I bet he started to refuse healthy food and keep demanding unhealthy stuff. The mother just needs to say "NO!" to him and learn that that's actually best for him in the end. She's being bullied by her son and still thinks she's being a good parent?
I find it depressing and scary the way the government seems to be out to control every facet of our lives these days, usually in the name of protecting us, or someone.
The world isn't, never was, and never will be perfect, and yet with every year that goes by more and more legislation gets passed and things just get shittier and shittier.
Maybe a bit better education and more discipline would allow people to grow up to be better parents and citizens, then children would receive better care.
The world isn't, never was, and never will be perfect, and yet with every year that goes by more and more legislation gets passed and things just get shittier and shittier.
Maybe a bit better education and more discipline would allow people to grow up to be better parents and citizens, then children would receive better care.
| paul_indo wrote: |
| I find it depressing and scary the way the government seems to be out to control every facet of our lives these days, usually in the name of protecting us, or someone. |
You wouldn't find it scary if the government's main aim was to do good for the country and do what's best for their people. But it isn't; all the seem to want to do at the moment is make themselves look good, they do everything in their power to attempt to increase their public image or make money. Yet this often results in drastic negative effects on the people. I think that if the media didn't attack the government and politicians so heavily then the government would be far more prepared to do things which would be good for the people but bad for their image.
Remember that the best government would be to have a benevolent dictator in whom absolute power would not corrupt.
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