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Yantaal
i was stopped on monday by a christiian to whom we got talking, we got on to heaven and hell.

she beluieved there is no heaven? only we get rebron? care to elaborate
HereticMonkey
Well, you had the conversation...you should be able to elaborate on it...Yeesh!

That said: The afterlife isn't that well-defined in the Christian religion. We know that there is a Heaven and Hell, that Hell is a place of punishment, and after the events in Revelations those that believe will go to Heaven, but otherwise the system isn't that well defined. Because of that, there has been some dispute as to what happens, and so various explanations have gone in cycles (see what happened to Limbo recently as an example).

If it helps...
HM
iZen
I guess this really depends on the form of Christianity that you practice. Being a Christian, really only means that you have accepted Jesus as your savior. That is all that is explained in the Bible. Anything else that you hear about Jesus' crucifixion are simply the way it is interpreted. You can believe in no Heaven or Hell, and believe that when you die you are reborn as a molecule of air. That is still being a Christian as long as you accept Jesus as your savior, no matter what he is being your savior for.
Yantaal
yeah she kept saying, when adam and eve were made, they were perfect, so they wouldnt have died, thus humans wernt designed to die, just live and live and live, riddled with incest and nudity to spred the pld garden of eden across the whole earth. but when they nibbled the naughty fruit god gave em the boot II and then they snuffed it at some time, so shit. they died and now we are all paying for their strupid mistaake.

way to hold a grudge gog.


(im atheist i dnot belive any of the above)
HereticMonkey
Um...Wha---? That's fine except for the incest and spreading the Garden of Eden...

And if you are an atheist with interest, then why mention it at all?

HM
Yantaal
im want answers, so the point is that as long as i have know christianity has preached to u a heaven and hell of some kind, then this woman waltzes in and sais, actually no, we just get rebornon earth, so there.

plus i want some arguments for her next timeisee her, ...: she has promsed to come by the same timenext week and drop a book of with me,
Deuc
I must say first of all Yantaal, you weren't speaking to a Christian if she told you there is not "heaven". By reborn I'm assuming she is talking about reincarnation. Reincarnation is NOT a Christian teaching. Death and Resurrection are.

So you might want to listen to those knowledgeable in the teachings of Christ to get some answers.

Again, here's your elaboration.

There IS A HEAVEN. There is NO REBIRTH (reincarnation). /according to Christianity as laid out in the Old and New Testaments.

Deuc
Soulfire
I honestly believe you weren't talking to a Christian if they believed in reincarnation. To be honest, there is no subsidary of Christianity that I know of that teaches reincarnation.
Whong
Soulfire wrote:
I honestly believe you weren't talking to a Christian if they believed in reincarnation. To be honest, there is no subsidary of Christianity that I know of that teaches reincarnation.


Yeah, that's right! Reincarnation has NOTHING to do with Christianity, it's mostly in Buddhism and Hindusim! We believers believe there is Heaven and Hell, none other. And the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ, God's only Son who died for our sake so that we wouldn't have to pay the penalty for our sins!

Jesus Christ wrote:
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


That's straight from the Holy Book, the Bible, the Word of God! Wink Idea
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