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Human Rights to God?
Do people have rights that shouldn't be taken away by God? (by God I mean The Benevolent)
For example, does a human have the right to life? Among humans, most clear-thinking people would say 'yes'; but does a person have that right in the face of his creator?
I say 'no'.
My reason is that belief in God requires faith in God, and therefore we therefore if one chooses to believe in a God they must surrender all those rights they cherish as a part of their faith.
If a person doesn't believe in the God, the appearance of the God proved His divinity and existence and since the world is created by the God, he can change it in any way he wants.
For example, does a human have the right to life? Among humans, most clear-thinking people would say 'yes'; but does a person have that right in the face of his creator?
I say 'no'.
My reason is that belief in God requires faith in God, and therefore we therefore if one chooses to believe in a God they must surrender all those rights they cherish as a part of their faith.
If a person doesn't believe in the God, the appearance of the God proved His divinity and existence and since the world is created by the God, he can change it in any way he wants.
Yes people have rights, that in no situation can be taken away. Pretty much what your saying is that, if God says that it is right to rape someone, then it is right. Well I'm sorry to say, but hurting someone in anyway, besides self-defence or in revenge for something that was done to you, it is not right. The way that I see it, is that Man created God, not the otherway around. My PERSONAL belief, not saying that it is right or wrong, is that God is simply a thoughtform created by mans urge to be able to explain the unknown.
It is proven that people who have faith in a greater being then themselves, live happier and longer lives. I have nothing against any belief system until it crosses the boundaries of your ethical rights. Go watch the documentary Jesus Camp, and then tell me that Evangelists are good people.
It is proven that people who have faith in a greater being then themselves, live happier and longer lives. I have nothing against any belief system until it crosses the boundaries of your ethical rights. Go watch the documentary Jesus Camp, and then tell me that Evangelists are good people.
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| Do people have rights that shouldn't be taken away by God? (by God I mean The Benevolent)
For example, does a human have the right to life? Among humans, most clear-thinking people would say 'yes'; but does a person have that right in the face of his creator? I say 'no'. My reason is that belief in God requires faith in God, and therefore we therefore if one chooses to believe in a God they must surrender all those rights they cherish as a part of their faith. If a person doesn't believe in the God, the appearance of the God proved His divinity and existence and since the world is created by the God, he can change it in any way he wants. |
I do not believe in a God which is benevolent. I believe in one that is a watcher, and does not interfere with our lives at all, but rather uses science to indirectly influence our lives as a sort of an automatic sequence he programmed.
I believe that every human has at least the right to live life to its full length, and so, I, like every good believer in a religion, am going to stuff words down God's throat and say that he believes in the same. My reasoning behind this is that God would be hypocritical otherwise if the 10 commandments hold true, and what message would God be sending if God were to spill blood rather then severely punish those who do not believe in God if God is the benevolent God you describe?
If God were the watcher of our lives as I believe, then I would believe that God would say that human nature should run its course and then when the right time comes he'll be the one to judge. For example, say Hitler. Eventually someone on earth would just get so ticked at him that they'd attempt to assassinate him(which did actually happen).
To God, there is no human rights. Its nothing but "serve me and you'll go to paradise otherwise you'll suffer for all eternity with incomprehensible pain in a pit of fire!"
Such a god would not be a benevolent god, but a cruel paranoid dictator who clearly would have psychological problems and is a sociopath. Such a god would not care about human rights, only about who serves him (and he wouldn't treat them that too well ether)
Such a god would not be a benevolent god, but a cruel paranoid dictator who clearly would have psychological problems and is a sociopath. Such a god would not care about human rights, only about who serves him (and he wouldn't treat them that too well ether)
Obligatory: WTF?
All rights are based on the right of free will, which is one that God endorses. In that regard, to take away base rights is against God.
There's also the idea that any religion that requires relinquishing base rights should be avoided; a religion should always be a two-way conversation between deity and worshipper. I know it sounds weird, but the relationship should never be worse than Teacher-Student; a deity that expects abject worship won't gain many followers.
You've also pretty much defined a cult, and cults are always bad. Once you give up the right to quit a relationship that isn't working, then you're no longer human and no better than ants, and denies all that is human, our creativity, our freedom, and our responsibilities.
I'm scared of anyone that believes that taking on a religion is relinquishing rights; there are no religions that work that require that...Taking on responsibilities that supercede rights, sure, to a degree, but not to the point that it removes the humanity of the worshipper...
HM
All rights are based on the right of free will, which is one that God endorses. In that regard, to take away base rights is against God.
There's also the idea that any religion that requires relinquishing base rights should be avoided; a religion should always be a two-way conversation between deity and worshipper. I know it sounds weird, but the relationship should never be worse than Teacher-Student; a deity that expects abject worship won't gain many followers.
You've also pretty much defined a cult, and cults are always bad. Once you give up the right to quit a relationship that isn't working, then you're no longer human and no better than ants, and denies all that is human, our creativity, our freedom, and our responsibilities.
I'm scared of anyone that believes that taking on a religion is relinquishing rights; there are no religions that work that require that...Taking on responsibilities that supercede rights, sure, to a degree, but not to the point that it removes the humanity of the worshipper...
HM
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