I did some reading a little while back and it seems that quite a lot of resources are going to run out over the next few decades.
It seems that iron, coal and oil, etc will run out pretty much world wide over the next 50ish years or so. Some have only until like 2020 left I think like coal.
Australia though seems to have a few centuries left at the current rate for most stuff (obviously less when we start to sell it for BILLIONS!) and we have almost a third of the world's uranium.
So is the world screwed? Is the world's economy going to crash in the next few decades when you refil your car and it costs you $10 000 a tankful of fuel or will technology save the day?
Your posts seem to be riddled with doom and gloom. :shrug:
I don't think it's that big of an issue, as there are already many ways of getting around our 'dependancy' on such items. And these items will be developed more rapidly over the next decade because of the pending 'end' to these resources.
The last vehicle I bought was a diesel truck, and part of the reason I bought it was the ability to convert it to alternate fuels.
The last house I bought has a solar photovoltaic electricity generating system in place that produces well over 15kwh per day. (almost enough to run the house at the same usage levels I'm at now, and will definately work if I have to 'cut down' on usage.)
It also has well-water, and many other 'effecient' addons.
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| Your posts seem to be riddled with doom and gloom. :shrug: |
Well, I've been thinking deeply lately.. 
I think before found new energy resources ,mankind (especial developed country)should saving energy,reduce wasting.
Oh well.. I think that's one of the reason why space missions are sent... maybe finding some alternate way of gathering resources.. i guess.. 
Yeah.
Probably the mainstream media does nothing but give you doom and gloom. Yeah I hate sites that does that. And of course the internet likes to pull off a lot of scare tactics.
There should be plenty of resources somewhere locate even in the sea.
cant wait for technology to save the day 
When these resources runs out the humanity will have already discovered other mean of producing energy..
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Yeah.
Probably the mainstream media does nothing but give you doom and gloom. Yeah I hate sites that does that. And of course the internet likes to pull off a lot of scare tactics.
There should be plenty of resources somewhere locate even in the sea. |
The statistics he placed are with keeping the resources under the sea in account. We are going to run out of resources pretty soon...
But I'm depending on technology to save the day... we've already made prototypes of cars that run on water or Hydrogen, and if we put our minds to it, we can harness enough solar energy to keep our cities supplied with electricity... though we'll all have to play a part... we can't sit on our asses, farting while we watch TV and think that God and scientists are going to find a way to keep the cost of our fuel and potato chips low.
But what I'm really worried about is that with growing urbanization, we may not have enough farmland left to make enough food for all of us, though this is a very distant problem. but why do you think everyone's so excited about Mars? Because they want to find places for growing more crops or more places for habitation.i havent researched this specific topic, but unless these statistics factor in the rate of population growth, then were all in for a surreal surprise. i hope like ****** mars is habitable, or i hope we can have people live in the oceans, or on the moon. over-crowding i think will be a problem sooner than running out of coal or oil. im not saying we shouldnt think about our diminishing resources, but we shouldnt be so focued on that and forget about other problems. like if a nuclear war would happen, the world wouldnt have to worry about resources, half of its population would be ****** by fallout. i think the earth has a way of balancing itself out. if the human race doesnt check itself there will be natural checks and balances.
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| i havent researched this specific topic, but unless these statistics factor in the rate of population growth, then were all in for a surreal surprise. i hope like ****** mars is habitable, or i hope we can have people live in the oceans, or on the moon. over-crowding i think will be a problem sooner than running out of coal or oil. im not saying we shouldnt think about our diminishing resources, but we shouldnt be so focued on that and forget about other problems. like if a nuclear war would happen, the world wouldnt have to worry about resources, half of its population would be ****** by fallout. i think the earth has a way of balancing itself out. if the human race doesnt check itself there will be natural checks and balances. |
Yes, but a Nuclear bomb would also consume a lot of resources... it would destroy plant life, pollute large water bodies, cause mutation of all sorts... basically, a major nuclear attack means most of us are, for lack of a better word, screwed.I think we need to save energy and don't waste it.
There is a topic like this already, might want to look at that.
http://frihost.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3844
Briefly, the first thing to run out will be oil and natural gas. You have five to ten years to either wallow in denial or become more self sufficient.
Learn to grow crops, repair machinery, and generate your own electricity. It sounds difficult but it's not too bad if you learn these things one little bit at a time.
A good place to start is here: http://otherpower.com/
Lots of information on DIY tech and self-sufficiency.
I also have a site devoted to self-sufficiency also (local to San Antonio, TX, but we're interested in starting chapters elswhere). Message me to get the URL.
Enough solar radiation hits the Earth's surface to provide the power for maybe twice the current population to all live at a North American or European standard of living. The problem is manufacturing enough windmills and solar collectors as time and resources run out. But if you are aware of this, you can at least buy/make your own and convince your immediate neighbors to do the same while the economy is still in relatively good shape. Then at least you and your neighbors can band together and cover each other's backs when the going gets rough. If you are in the market for a house, consider getting a rural one rather than an urban/suburban one to stay away from all those future freeloaders who are doing nothing to prepare right now.
Five years is plenty of time to prepare for anything if devote an hour a day to it on average. If too surreal and scary to think about, well then I guess unimaginative people that are set in their ways deserve what they're going to get (or not get).
So there, that's what you do. Have a nice weekend and good luck! | Texas Al wrote: |
| Five years is plenty of time to prepare for anything if devote an hour a day to it on average. If too surreal and scary to think about, well then I guess unimaginative people that are set in their ways deserve what they're going to get (or not get). |
Yes, it is... but five years isn't nearly enough to make the blissfully ignorant world aware of the depleting resources, is it?just relax and chill, we will see what happens when it comes to it... no need in worrying about it, since... we cant really do anything, that will make any sort of real difference... | OutlawSpirit wrote: |
| just relax and chill, we will see what happens when it comes to it... no need in worrying about it, since... we cant really do anything, that will make any sort of real difference... |
hey everything is in our hands. what the world is now, it's just because of us. what it will be, depends on us.well, i think we should probably start using nuclear power again, I'm sure the safety of nuclear reactors are getting better.
alternatively, we can build huge wind turbines and place them in areas with lotsa wind like north of Scotland.
either that or build a huge satellite with loads of solar panels and send it to the moon and relay the energy produced thru' microwave like we see in Simcity?
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well, i think we should probably start using nuclear power again, I'm sure the safety of nuclear reactors are getting better.
alternatively, we can build huge wind turbines and place them in areas with lotsa wind like north of Scotland.
either that or build a huge satellite with loads of solar panels and send it to the moon and relay the energy produced thru' microwave like we see in Simcity? |
Aren't nuclear power generators already being used in a lot of countries? Forgive my ignorance on this topic because I haven't done any research on this... so, I'm just asking.
Yes, we definitely do need to generate power from stretegically placed wind turbines, and we can generate a lot of solar power too, if harnessed the right way... places like the Sahara Desert, or other deserts can be used, somehow, to capture a lot of solar power. | tidrug wrote: |
| Aren't nuclear power generators already being used in a lot of countries? Forgive my ignorance on this topic because I haven't done any research on this... so, I'm just asking. |
In countries like Belgium, they want to close them before 2015 because of the danger and the nuclear waste. Some time ago, one of the containers (on the bottom of the sea) with nuclear waste started to leak a bit. Those containers were supposed to hold several hundreds/thousands of years.
But I have no idea how they want to replace them. Nuclear fusion won't be commercially profitable till 2030 or later. 
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| tidrug wrote: | | Aren't nuclear power generators already being used in a lot of countries? Forgive my ignorance on this topic because I haven't done any research on this... so, I'm just asking. |
In countries like Belgium, they want to close them before 2015 because of the danger and the nuclear waste. Some time ago, one of the containers (on the bottom of the sea) with nuclear waste started to leak a bit. Those containers were supposed to hold several hundreds/thousands of years.
But I have no idea how they want to replace them. Nuclear fusion won't be commercially profitable till 2030 or later. |
Yes, and I think we also have one or two thermo-nuclear plants operating in India... I'll read up on this and let y'all know. | ashok wrote: |
| OutlawSpirit wrote: | | just relax and chill, we will see what happens when it comes to it... no need in worrying about it, since... we cant really do anything, that will make any sort of real difference... |
hey everything is in our hands. what the world is now, it's just because of us. what it will be, depends on us. |
Precisely. Everything is literally in your hands. If you are capable of ricing-up a car or building a case-mod or even doing household repairs, you are capable of building your own electrical generators. If you are capable of pouring two liquids together you are capable of making your own biodiesel.
Maybe the governments/megacorps can solve the problem, and I hope they can, but I'm not going to bet my entire future on it. After all, they have screwed up spectacularly many, many times before. If we make ourselves self-sufficient now, we won't have to worry as much about the oil-crash and many other such problems, and if a lot of people take this point of view, the mistakes of our leaders might fade into irrelevance as local economics and local culture make a comeback.
Don't waste another second of your life whining about what people more powerful than you should do. Start reading http://fieldlines.com/ and (sorry to toot my own horn, but) http://keepthelightson.com/ and start working to make your own life secure regardless of what happens at the global/national level.As for fusion/fission, if you read my other posts you'll know that I think it would be nice if we could come up with a rational risk-benefit assessment and do it quickly enough to beat the energy crunch, but I doubt it's going to happen in most countries (certainly not the USA) and there is nothing I could do about it, so until someone can show me a safe and legal way I could actually build a nuke reactor, I'm not going to waste any time thinking or arguing about nukes.
Here in Brazil we have three termo-nuclears plants, i don't think that it's necessary because we already have easier and cheaper means of getting energy like "water plants"(I don't know the name in english, but the energy is provided by the falls in some rivers, maybe it is hidroplants, LOL) perharps these nuclear plants are just a mean to develop our nuclear technology without any disturb from UN.
Check this out... It's also got a rather interesting side angle about how America apparently fuels terrorism. Oh, sure, ok. Just because our car companies don't make ugly wimpy little cars we fund terrorists. Way to go Rediff magazine. Meh, I'll drive my V-8 Ford F-150 XLT any day I want and nobody's gonna stop me from driving it.
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| Oh, sure, ok. Just because our car companies don't make ugly wimpy little cars we fund terrorists. Way to go Rediff magazine. Meh, I'll drive my V-8 Ford F-150 XLT any day I want and nobody's gonna stop me from driving it. |
Woah, chill.... The correspondent is American. And besides, it's just a story... lighten up.I was trying to be kind of sarchastic, and I meant it somewhat jokingly, but I'll stop with those kind of posts. 
| gtb wrote: |
| I was trying to be kind of sarchastic, and I meant it somewhat jokingly, but I'll stop with those kind of posts. |
Oh man, I am so sorry.... I didn't realise you were being sarcastic.. I was on the phone with someone else and gave it less attention.... shit, now I feel like a fool. lol. Sorry, mate.No, it's partially my fault too. Don't worry about it. I sounded too critical anyway.
