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Sleep or Shut down?





conrutr
Another question?!!
In my Windows daze and perhaps as a force of habit, I have always
completely shut down the pc at night and fired it up the next day.
I've read mixed things about shutting down v sleep on the mac. Since
I've had the mac I have still shut down when finished with it for the
day, and again I think force of habit.
Any suggestions as to what's best to do with it in terms of
performance/maintenance etc?
Thanks
awesty
Well, with my PC i shut is down, so it can cool down and its not on all the time. But I didnt think it would be any different with macs.
vinx_18
I agree ... It is better to shut it down than staying it sleep... It will cool down your pc and you can also save some energy...Smile
pudovkin
And the Mac sleep procedure is much faster and less problematic than the XP one (I have problem on Bluetooth devices).
Go for shut down.
jay84h
I agree with shutting down. I usually shut mine down to let it cool off, but if I am going to be going somewhere for lets say an hour or so and nothing is being done on the computer via the internet, then I will put it in sleep mode. Other than that, shutting down cools off the computer much better.
Handyman
I put my macs to sleep and my windows pc to hibernate after 4 hours of idle. This is like a shutdown I guess except it keeps what I was doing at the point that I stopped fresh the next time I start the computer. But my pc requires a restart at least once a week. My macs need a restart once every 3 months or more More frequent if there is an update that needs a restart.
KHO
Ya, dont hibernate. Ever. Thats a horrible feature that microsoft came up with that just trashes your HDD. bottom line. As for sleep/shutdown, there isnt a difference with the exception of cool down time. I leave my computers on, and I have about 10. They sit there constantly on i just shut off the monitor so i dont fry that. They dont burn much power and power is cheap anyway, plus I have good cooling systems on all of them that keeps them cool while i have my heater on overnight so theres actually a plus to that.

Also, they can update overnight, download do whatever, its a nice way to download in my opinion, start up a large download, go to sleep when you come back from work in the morning your file is ready.
Ghengis
If you just know how to manage your Power control panel, you should be fine. I suggest at a bare minimum to have your monitor turn off after a set time (~20 min) -- I've never seen this cause a problem. Most systems can put up with standby, though as some posters pointed out certain peripherals don't behave well when you resume. The absolute best solution, IMHO, is hibernate (KHO's post notwithstanding) -- you just have to understand that some systems will put up with it while others won't. Most laptops use parts that are extensively tested for compatibility with each other, and that tend not to have problems resuming from hibernation. A hibernated computer can totally lose all power -- even (IIRC) have the laptop battery removed without AC power -- and come back just like you were using it.

Bottom line: try everything. Obviously don't have anything important going on, but just try "suspend", and then try to come back from it, with all your peripherals attached and in use. Then try "hibernate". If you can't tolerate hibernate, try suspend. If suspend doesn't work... well, I guess you can fall back on shutting down, but in that case you've probably got bigger problems.
ssthanapati
better to shut it down. Moreover u save on electricity bills and also increase the life of it
brokenbells
Sleep has its own advantages. If you have a good UPS, then you can put your computer to sleep. It just switches off your monitor and hard disks. Effectively your computer is still on. And its good for a few hours of down time, espeacially if you time it to sleep after some time.

Shutting down can be done if you are away from your computer for days or if you are not a heavy user and you dont know when you will be back.
SoftStag
It depends on how well your system copes with waking up from going to sleep. Many XP systems have problems when they come back, usually strange little quirks, especially USB devices that need to be unplugged and replugged to get them to work properly.

That said, I think a shut down is better. It wipes the memory and sets things back to how they should be. Some programs suffer from memory leak that you will never get back unless you reboot, so your system gets progressively slower. Most importantly, it saves energy and the environment! Sleep is a good option for the PC to automatically go in to when not used for a period of time.
xorcist
I think it would be better to shut down the computer completely so it can have time to be off and not overheat. You would be wasting power if you have it just sleeping but everything else is still on.
Ghengis
WTF is "everything else"? Your monitor will sleep; your mouse will sleep (if it's optical; otherwise it will draw almost no current all the time); your printer will sleep if it's of remotely recent vintage... what else is there? Every appliance on my desk combined probably draws low double-digits (in Watts) in sleep mode, probably less than a low-wattage light bulb. I haven't measured it, but I'm confident that I waste less than a dollar a month, between my ~3 computers.
xorcist
Ghengis wrote:
WTF is "everything else"? Your monitor will sleep; your mouse will sleep (if it's optical; otherwise it will draw almost no current all the time); your printer will sleep if it's of remotely recent vintage... what else is there? Every appliance on my desk combined probably draws low double-digits (in Watts) in sleep mode, probably less than a low-wattage light bulb. I haven't measured it, but I'm confident that I waste less than a dollar a month, between my ~3 computers.

The better thing to do is just turn your computer off so when you turn it back it its not slow.
Ghengis
Are you people running Win98 or something? I have XP systems that have been up for literally a month without a full shutdown, no problems. Vista *may* even improve on this, I hear -- if you need to reboot to "speed up" your system, you have bigger problems than power consumption.
bigbadjohn
i work in a couple of resource centers and in one center we shut down the comps and in the other we dont.

In one center we have 6 comps and in another we have 25.

Guess which center we shut down the comps. Yep the one with 25.

It seems a good idea to me but in the morning starting up all these comps is a major pain in the.....
heridlia
I usually shutdown my pc without using standard shutdown.

With small utility : "Shutdown Booster", my pc turn off about 5 seconds.

I'm very satisfied with this utility.

Thanks shutdown booster.
goutha
I use sleep very often.

But my computer is becoming more slow since few weeks...


I tried to shut down, and it works better


Than Shut down ! Smile
Bones
I prefer to shutdown. If for no other reason than if a power failure happens while you are away or sleeping, it can cause hardware damage and/or data corruption. Also less wear and tear on the pc, and less power usage (no electricity isnt very expensive, but why use it if you dont have to..you know, environmentally friendly and all that crap)
ridzuan
If you dont want shutdown your PC.. why not try the hibernate function, it can resume back the OS in short time. Cool Cool Cool
Sunny
Shutting down is better, can't think of any good reason to go for sleep mode.

I have xp and use my pc as server, I have to keep it on so others can use the internet connected through my server but at same time I want to give rest to my pc, So I have setup my pc in such a way that it automatically hibernates @ 2 30 am and turns on back @ 7am Smile
theswolf
On a MAC it's not necessary to shut down the machine, I've a MAC too and I use Onyx to clean my PC.
From 2months I use just the sleep command and it is problemless than win why MAC is a UNIX system... and UNIX is written to be everytime up, MAC OSX clean dinamically memory unused, has script to perform maintenance option ( Onyx helps you in this way)...
You have to reboot your MAC just after a kernel-cache cleaning for obvious reasons.
bcarasco
Everyone else is right, shutdown is best. It can get over a hundred degrees in the computer.
Ghengis
bcarasco wrote:
Everyone else is right, shutdown is best. It can get over a hundred degrees in the computer.


Wow, you have poor ventilation ergo it is best to shut down the computer.


(/sarcasm)

If your computer generates *any* appreciable heat in sleep mode, you're not putting it to sleep correctly. Seriously, it should be drawing single- or at most low-double-digit watts, like the same as a night light.
KHO
Wow, you know, for everyone who is saying that leaving your computer on slows it down and trashes it, your retarded. End.

1. Computers were meant to be ON
2. If you have a fan, leaving it on will not shorten hardware life (unless your HDD is constantly moving, just use power management as HDD's are only good for so many rotations)
3. If your computer is slow, thats your fault for looking up porn and using limewire. Dont want it to be slow? Then dont download anything on a windows machine, END
4. stfu with all the people telling you to hibernate, that is just plain stupid
5. Power is not that expensive on the average 350 watt system, esp if HDD stops spinning and monitor shuts off.
brycearonium
sleep doesn't use that much power, and will allow you to have a faster start up time. i recommended sleep, then again i use a mac, where i never have to shut down or restart my computer in the first place Smile
TheGeek
unix based operating systems such as linux and mac os X are slightly more behind in the sleep/hibernate functionality than windows is. For any operating system other than windows and even in windows I would recommend shutting down. In windows I let it just fall asleep or hibernate when I close the lid on my laptop, but sometimes it doesn't come out very cleanly and a reboot is necessary.
AutoTechGuy
I've always shut down. Not for security reasons.. not for performance reasons... more so.. well due to the fact that I don't trust environmental conditions.

Example.. if a thunderstorm moves in while you're on the computer, you can shut it down easy enough, but if it moves in while you're at work, if you suffer a power surge, etc.. well there's nothing you can do about it.

Now if I owned a UPS, it might be a bit different, but all I have is a surge protector and an OLD 80's physical turn-off power strip. When I'm done, I shut it down and flip off the physical switch on the power strip which physically disconnects it from power (just like unplugging it).

Also I'm a bit old-school.. I've seen too many anomalies due to standby/hibernate/whatever.. of course this was mainly on pre-W2k systems.. but still, hard to get over that mentality.

I also have my power settings set to turn off monitor after 20 minutes, but leave everything else on all the time. There's nothing more annoying than having to wait those few extra seconds to access a program when the hard drive has to spin back up after being shut off!
hiquality
I suggest "Power Off Monitor" for periods smaller than half an hour
"Stand By" over night
"Shut Down/Hibernate" if you don't use it for more than 2 days

Here are my arguments for this

Too many Shut Downs can damage your computer(especially your hard drive)

While in Stand By electrical current still exits in your MB but not enough to heat it up.It is well known that condensers (those little tubes on your Mother Board ) start intflating themselves because of the frequent change of temperature. When condensers are out so your computer's stability.Shutting Down and Powering up too often may damage the condensers.

It takes longer to boot Smile
HollyChris
In my experience the hardware you are using will determine what is best for you.

For example, I have a laptop, and I ran it like a server and reduced its life dramatically. I ran it 24/7 for almost 3 years. Now the battery is ruined, the memory and the HD are failing. The XP OS is completely unstable; I can't even empty items from the trash bin.

Servers however are built to run for months on end without a reboot. I'm not sure where desktops fall between the two extremes of laptops and servers. I would think that desktops are built to withstand longer periods of running than laptops. I shut my desktop down most every night, but on nights I forget, I don't stress over it.

I've never found a reason to use sleep or hibernate. In fact I work at a school district and the first thing we do is turn those off on the laptops. Teachers hate it when they walk to there computer and they have to wait for it to come out of sleep before they can use it, that is if they can even figure out how to get it out of sleep without turning the laptop off.
SyNMaN
what are you people talking about, shut down to cool off? If your PC runs stable after running for more than 2 minutes, then there is no point to turn it off to "cool off" as parts like the CPU, HD, GPU, etc reach their idle almost static temps within a couple of minutes and they also have their almost static unstable temp minimum. Which means just because your computer runs longer doesn't mean the CPU will have an increased chance of frying. Your PC will also NOT run hotter just because it's on longer. If you notice your temps changing just because it runs longer, then it must mean you have something running in the background utilizing the HD, CPU or whatever else, which means you wouldn't want your PC off anyway or you have a virus. The only thing you would worry about is the fans, the fans have a certain life span, so they will die out faster which would probably fry the hardware they cool. I would rather use sleep mode, but I do like to check a few things on the computer when I wake up.

Basically if you want fast access to your PC use sleep mode.

If you wanna save on the power bill and extend the life of your fans by whatever time your PC is off then shut down
GSIS
Hibernate (on my PC, anyway) copies the content of RAM to hard disk then powers down the whole machine. While in hibernation it uses no power and does the hard disk drive no more harm than shutting the machine down any other way. I get very fast start-up because everything comes back as it was. I almost always use hibernate but I usually close Excel, Word, Project files. Never had a problem. Closing documents when they're not in use is just good practice.

The PC gets a full shut-down/restart about once every couple of weeks.

In general electronic components suffer, mostly, from changes in temperature so it's better, if you can, to leave the machine powered up. This is, of course, wasteful from an ecological POV and impractical for most laptops.
cvkien
i had tried shutdown, sleep and hibernate as well in my pc. Shutdown takes more time to load when i tried to restart it the next day, hibernate will load faster and sleep will load faster than hibernate. but the point is, shutdown let my pc cool down. i always put my laptop to hibernate because of time urgent, but after somedays, the system will begin to run slow. for sleep mode, for sometime, my pc cannot load when i tried to wake it up. and i'm kind of worried if i just leave it sleep without power off. So, the point is, shutdown let you load a new refreshed windows after restart, hibernate is still keeping those process and it will make your system slow at the next startup and sleep is not my choice...
emad4u
If you just know how to manage your Power control panel, you should be fine. I suggest at a bare minimum to have your monitor turn off after a set time (~20 min) -- I've never seen this cause a problem. Most systems can put up with standby, though as some posters pointed out certain peripherals don't behave well when you resume. The absolute best solution, IMHO, is hibernate (KHO's post notwithstanding) -- you just have to understand that some systems will put up with it while others won't. Most laptops use parts that are extensively tested for compatibility with each other, and that tend not to have problems resuming from hibernation. A hibernated computer can totally lose all power -- even (IIRC) have the laptop battery removed without AC power -- and come back just like you were using it.

Bottom line: try everything. Obviously don't have anything important going on, but just try "suspend", and then try to come back from it, with all your peripherals attached and in use. Then try "hibernate". If you can't tolerate hibernate, try suspend. If suspend doesn't work... well, I guess you can fall back on shutting down, but in that case you've probably got bigger problems.
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