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who is the best Defensive player in the NBA?
I'd have to say (no big surprise here ) BEN WALLACE!!
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I say Ben Wallace too. 
I'd say the same thing..
Gary Payton
Ben Wallace and Gary Payton? are we talking this season or 5 years ago?
Come on guys, Ben Wallace has proven to be an overpaid mistake by the bulls, and Payton passed his prime about 6 years ago
This season's best defensive players are Ron Artest, Emeka Okafor, Jermaine O'Neal and maybe Dwight Howard
Ben is declining and the Bulls are going to regret paying him what they did, im glad the Pistons choose to not give into his demands....
Come on guys, Ben Wallace has proven to be an overpaid mistake by the bulls, and Payton passed his prime about 6 years ago
This season's best defensive players are Ron Artest, Emeka Okafor, Jermaine O'Neal and maybe Dwight Howard
Ben is declining and the Bulls are going to regret paying him what they did, im glad the Pistons choose to not give into his demands....
mattyj is right. By the way, Shaquille O'Neal is not defenceman, he is center=)
Ron Artest is maybe the greatest player this season.
Ron Artest is maybe the greatest player this season.
Between those 3, I'd have to say Ben Wallace would take the cake. Gary Payton was good back in the old days and is way past his prime. Same thing applies with O'Neal.
Ben Wallace without a doubt.
| DILLIGAF wrote: |
| Ben Wallace without a doubt. |
+1
With the guys on this poll, it's Ben Wallace. He gets a consistent 10+ rebounds every night, and is one of the best shot blockers in the NBA. He's no just finding his niche in Chicago, and I think they can make a run in the playoffs.
If you go back, I'd definitely say Gary Payton is the best defender on that list. He was a lock-down point guard, and shut down the teams opposing point guard every night. He was a great player for Seattle, and I grew up watching him. I'm happy he got the ring, but he should've won it with Seattle if Jordan didn't come back
If you go back, I'd definitely say Gary Payton is the best defender on that list. He was a lock-down point guard, and shut down the teams opposing point guard every night. He was a great player for Seattle, and I grew up watching him. I'm happy he got the ring, but he should've won it with Seattle if Jordan didn't come back
| ballinboy13 wrote: |
| With the guys on this poll, it's Ben Wallace. He gets a consistent 10+ rebounds every night, and is one of the best shot blockers in the NBA. He's no just finding his niche in Chicago, and I think they can make a run in the playoffs.
If you go back, I'd definitely say Gary Payton is the best defender on that list. He was a lock-down point guard, and shut down the teams opposing point guard every night. He was a great player for Seattle, and I grew up watching him. I'm happy he got the ring, but he should've won it with Seattle if Jordan didn't come back |
I agree, He didnt earn the nick name the glove for no reason
but he shouldnt be on a poll for best defenders now a days, infact he probably should have retired 2 or 3 years ago, but he was ring chasingi think BEN WALLACE!! too
It's still Shaq... He's getting up there now but he's still the premier player in the NBA. There's still no one able to keep him from taking the low block anytime he wants it, clutching the feed pass, wheeling and shattering the backboard into hundreds of little pieces... Ben Wallace?...HA-HA...you people are on drugs! See, the problem today is that more people are interested when they believe the product is unpredictable. If they green-lighted Shaq it would all be a foregone conclusion and there wouldn't be any reason for most phony fans to even bother watching.
See? Where collusion is possible and profitable to all factions involved, collusion is what you have. More than likely you're all children who are still figuring out how to wipe your ass. But this is true of all sports... The TV, which benefits from an unpredictable product tells us that these types of players, the ones that are truly dominate and ahead of their time don't come along anymore and tiny minds that are told what to think and when to think it actually believe what their TV tells them. Don't be a zombie, get a life while there's still time! ... lmao
See? Where collusion is possible and profitable to all factions involved, collusion is what you have. More than likely you're all children who are still figuring out how to wipe your ass. But this is true of all sports... The TV, which benefits from an unpredictable product tells us that these types of players, the ones that are truly dominate and ahead of their time don't come along anymore and tiny minds that are told what to think and when to think it actually believe what their TV tells them. Don't be a zombie, get a life while there's still time! ... lmao
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| It's still Shaq... He's getting up there now but he's still the premier player in the NBA. There's still no one able to keep him from taking the low block anytime he wants it, clutching the feed pass, wheeling and shattering the backboard into hundreds of little pieces... Ben Wallace?...HA-HA...you people are on drugs! See, the problem today is that more people are interested when they believe the product is unpredictable. If they green-lighted Shaq it would all be a foregone conclusion and there wouldn't be any reason for most phony fans to even bother watching.
See? Where collusion is possible and profitable to all factions involved, collusion is what you have. More than likely you're all children who are still figuring out how to wipe your ass. But this is true of all sports... The TV, which benefits from an unpredictable product tells us that these types of players, the ones that are truly dominate and ahead of their time don't come along anymore and tiny minds that are told what to think and when to think it actually believe what their TV tells them. Don't be a zombie, get a life while there's still time! ... lmao |
What does Shaq be able to take position on the low block and shatter the backboard have to do with him being a good defender? Perhaps you should read what the question is before calling us phony fans, moron
Ben Wallace hands down. He averages about 2 blocks per game and was defensive player of the year
Too bad Ben Wallace didn't have a good enough season in order to win Defensive Player of the year 
Oh well, at least he made the 2nd Defensive Team this season. I've always thought that Camby was a monster even in his early years in Toronto. Congrats Camby for winning the award this season!
Oh well, at least he made the 2nd Defensive Team this season. I've always thought that Camby was a monster even in his early years in Toronto. Congrats Camby for winning the award this season!For me on Ben Wallace
just like any other sane human being when Shaq gets the green light and is handed the rock and wheels to the bucket with unmatched authority. The point I was making is that no one can prevent Shaq from his thunder dunks ... no one! The fact that Wallace can not do the same with Shaq there clearly makes Shaq the best player, at both ends. Now, when Shaq is the last player back, like Jabber was in his later years, then you have an argument.
All you have right now is what your tv shows you, part of the time, and what the corporate media's promoted talking heads say, which is absolute garbage. Your argument is based on the fact that Shaq doesn't take the low block and isn't fed the rock every time down the floor. That doesn't mean he was stopped ...lol... get a clue ...
You don't seem to understand, sports are businesses and the NBA is no different ... it's a dramatization. You have to go all the way back to Wilt Chamberlain to find a player red-lighted more often than Shaquille O'neal. That's how great a player he truly is!
All you have right now is what your tv shows you, part of the time, and what the corporate media's promoted talking heads say, which is absolute garbage. Your argument is based on the fact that Shaq doesn't take the low block and isn't fed the rock every time down the floor. That doesn't mean he was stopped ...lol... get a clue ...
You don't seem to understand, sports are businesses and the NBA is no different ... it's a dramatization. You have to go all the way back to Wilt Chamberlain to find a player red-lighted more often than Shaquille O'neal. That's how great a player he truly is!
Oh my god, you didn't even mention Artest?
for the god sake...
for the god sake...
Sheq is not goot at def, at all.
Maybe payton good, Artest to.. there are many good players.
Between those 3, Payton.
Maybe payton good, Artest to.. there are many good players.
Between those 3, Payton.
| markrc99 wrote: |
| It's still Shaq... He's getting up there now but he's still the premier player in the NBA. There's still no one able to keep him from taking the low block anytime he wants it, clutching the feed pass, wheeling and shattering the backboard into hundreds of little pieces... Ben Wallace?...HA-HA...you people are on drugs! See, the problem today is that more people are interested when they believe the product is unpredictable. If they green-lighted Shaq it would all be a foregone conclusion and there wouldn't be any reason for most phony fans to even bother watching.
See? Where collusion is possible and profitable to all factions involved, collusion is what you have. More than likely you're all children who are still figuring out how to wipe your ass. But this is true of all sports... The TV, which benefits from an unpredictable product tells us that these types of players, the ones that are truly dominate and ahead of their time don't come along anymore and tiny minds that are told what to think and when to think it actually believe what their TV tells them. Don't be a zombie, get a life while there's still time! ... lmao |
You really didn’t pay any attention at all to the topic. The question was which one of the three players mentioned (Wallace, Shaq or Payton) is the BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER. You are right about Shaq in the low post, but unless basketball has changed and I have missed something dunking on someone’s head is done on the OFFENSIVE END of the court. And being an offensive juggernaut does make you a defensive one, example of this in reverse is our lovable Dennis Rodman, defense hell ya, offense? You’re kidding right.
There are better defensive players in the NBA then these three, but when Payton was in his prime he was by far a better defensive player then Shaq or Wallace. But as of right now out of these three it would be Wallace.
There is no conspiracy theory (well maybe in your mind) here to suppress The Big Aristotle’s rightful role or place in NBA history. The evil media is not influencing anyone here people are just answering the question that was posed to them. If I were you, I would turn around and look out the window. I am sure that there is a pesticide van parked outside with guys in black suits and shades sitting inside monitoring your every move and that any minute now they are about to storm your place because you have exposed their ultimate plan to dominant us weaker minded sheep.
| markrc99 wrote: |
| just like any other sane human being when Shaq gets the green light and is handed the rock and wheels to the bucket with unmatched authority. The point I was making is that no one can prevent Shaq from his thunder dunks ... no one! The fact that Wallace can not do the same with Shaq there clearly makes Shaq the best player, at both ends. Now, when Shaq is the last player back, like Jabber was in his later years, then you have an argument.
All you have right now is what your tv shows you, part of the time, and what the corporate media's promoted talking heads say, which is absolute garbage. Your argument is based on the fact that Shaq doesn't take the low block and isn't fed the rock every time down the floor. That doesn't mean he was stopped ...lol... get a clue ... You don't seem to understand, sports are businesses and the NBA is no different ... it's a dramatization. You have to go all the way back to Wilt Chamberlain to find a player red-lighted more often than Shaquille O'neal. That's how great a player he truly is! |
you have very low reading comprehension dont you? Did you finish elementary school?
The question is relating to the best defensive player and you keep bringing up shaq being able to dunk, you are a moron
Whether Ben Wallace steps out of the way or not does not make Shaq any better of a defender, period, get a clue you stupid Shaq fan boy
For the record the best defenders are:
Ron ARtest, Bruce Bowen for the wings
Marcus Camby, Emeka Okafor and JErmaine O'Neal in the low block
Now markrc99 isuggest you watch some games from this season just finished and not the late 90's, because Shaq *IS* the last player back, he is fat and slow and not the shaq of old and is no longer the most dominant player in theleague as you suggest, FFS he struggles to even play half of the games in the regular season...
so GET A CLUE
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you have very low reading comprehension dont you? Did you finish elementary school? |
You know he has to point at the words in order to read. He probably justs needs to wipe the fingerprints off his screen a little more often so that way he can see a little more clearly or he could just decrease the screen resolution to 640x480 so that way the words are big enough he won't lose his place.
among the three, i chosed ben wallace because of his blocking and rebounding. hes a monster, the beast!
but i admire also payton and shaq.
but in all nba players my best defensive player is ak47... andrei kirelenko!
but i admire also payton and shaq.
but in all nba players my best defensive player is ak47... andrei kirelenko!
The big shaq attack get my vote.
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