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This year...





Blaster
Well this year has been pretty weird. First off we had two lock downs in the same week back in November. Then this week our Elementry school had a problem with gas leaking or what ever. Then the middle school had a fire at there school. Nothing major but it was a fire. And we at the high school had someone hang themselves on friday. So let me tell you I haven't had the best year. Then another member here had a bomb threat at his school. http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-57051.html&highlight=bomb+threat well he lives about 20 minutes away from me... did I mention it happend twice? http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-64365.html&highlight=bomb+threat

so all in all its been pretty weird this past year... what is the world coming too?
LukeakaDanish
You are incredibly unlucky...however screwed up this kinda thing seems to be, surely its statistically improbable that anyone should experience something like this once - never mind 3 times or whatever you've had to deal with...

Question: What do your parents say? I know for certain mine would have me moved from my college in seconds if this kinda thing happened to me...

...thankfully I don't think it generally tends to happen in Denmark, largely part to the fact that our society is more "equal" - so nobody gets left behind with almost nothing. Don't hate me for saying this, Americans, I can certainly see why you "like" your close to 0 taxes and freedom! - but improving the living standards for the poorest really does create a more stable society!
Captain Fertile
LukeakaDanish wrote:
I can certainly see why you "like" your close to 0 taxes and freedom!


Close to 0 taxes? I have several friends in the US and I can assure you that they pay one heck of a lot of taxes - maybe not as much as I do here in the UK (or maybe they do just in different ways) but certainly not close to zero, tax is still a great hardship for them and they struggle just like anyone to earn enough for a decent life.

I'm not sure what you are using as source for your statement but I am sure it is not totally correct.

As for freedom, yes of course the US has freedom but with the PC brigade in force very strongly over there (as it is here) freedoms are getting less and less for the rank and file of US citizens.

You are of course entitled to your oppinon and I mean no disrespect to what you say. You are entitled to say what you believe to be true. Smile

However, it is easy to be down on America, mainly due to its governement's foriegn policy and what we see and hear on our own media but the USA is not paved with gold for the normal man and woman like us over there and we should rememember they are not given a free ride in any way by their own government.

I am saying this on behalf of my friends over there who are too busy in the middle of a 60+ hour working week to pay for a modest standard of living for them and their kids.

Note to LukeakaDanish* I have written and rewritten this post many times to try and word it in such a way so that it does not sound like an attack on you. Please believe me when I say I am not attacking you. I am merely attacking the widely held misconception that US citizens enjoy a eutopia - their leaders might but the grass roots of America certainly do not.

Please, please do not take this as a flame to you. Smile
Montressor
Captain Fertile wrote:
Note to LukeakaDanish* I have written and rewritten this post many times to try and word it in such a way so that it does not sound like an attack on you. Please believe me when I say I am not attacking you. I am merely attacking the widely held misconception that US citizens enjoy a eutopia - their leaders might but the grass roots of America certainly do not.

Please, please do not take this as a flame to you. Smile
Hmm, I took LukeakaDanish's remark to reflect a belief that the more "socialist" programs of Denmark are better that then far from utopian American classical liberal programs. Favoring security and a feeling of community over individual rights (including a higher degree of private property), his statement that he can see why we like the lesser taxes, the system that Denmark has is better for society. Note: when I say "socialist" I do not say it as an insult, but as the correct label/description to apply to the programs. In stating that the programs are more "socialist", I am not passing judgment on them as being bad, but as different (for my American friends who see the words communist and socialist as personally offensive and "of the devil").
LukeakaDanish
Montressor wrote:
Captain Fertile wrote:
Note to LukeakaDanish* I have written and rewritten this post many times to try and word it in such a way so that it does not sound like an attack on you. Please believe me when I say I am not attacking you. I am merely attacking the widely held misconception that US citizens enjoy a eutopia - their leaders might but the grass roots of America certainly do not.

Please, please do not take this as a flame to you. Smile
Hmm, I took LukeakaDanish's remark to reflect a belief that the more "socialist" programs of Denmark are better that then far from utopian American classical liberal programs. Favoring security and a feeling of community over individual rights (including a higher degree of private property), his statement that he can see why we like the lesser taxes, the system that Denmark has is better for society. Note: when I say "socialist" I do not say it as an insult, but as the correct label/description to apply to the programs. In stating that the programs are more "socialist", I am not passing judgment on them as being bad, but as different (for my American friends who see the words communist and socialist as personally offensive and "of the devil").


That is pretty close to a perfect judgment of my opinion Smile

(and don't worry, I don't take offense by a "socialist" label...)

Close to 0 taxes: ...well relative to Denmark's 50%+ taxes....10% (or whatever Americans pay) is reasonably close to 0...Very Happy

@Capt. Fertile:

I certainly DON'T believe that:

Quote:
US citizens enjoy utopia


I know they don't! ...I know that A LOT of people are VERY poor in America...and a lot more have to work very hard to get anywhere in life.

What I am saying is they have a lot of freedom (slight misconductions by the us gov. doesn't really harm this in my opinion) - not "utopia".

(and don't worry - unless you specifically write it to be a flame - I will never feel attacked by your posts Smile - I know not everyone agrees with my views...thats only good though, as it starts conversations...)
Captain Fertile
@LukeakaDanish

That is cool, I can't argue with any of your perfectly correct and reasonable argument for your case.

Now you put it in such terms I undesrtand and agree fully with what you say.

I' also pleased you took my comments in the context in wich they were meant. Smile
Blaster
hmm could we get back on topic now Razz
LukeakaDanish
Blaster wrote:
hmm could we get back on topic now Razz

Blaster wrote:
what is the world coming too?


We are on topic Smile
Blaster
ok ok good point.....
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