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Should CAMERA PHONE be abolished from the market...???





ravi_9793
The crime thrugh mobile is increasing day by day... every day we hear about some MMS...or some one clicks your photo.Dont you think its all because of this camera phone which has been introduced in the market...?? Embarassed

mobile with video play ability is OK...but with feature of camera and video recording is a threat.

what you think...shouls it be banned or not??? Idea
Manofgames
Child pornography has increased dramatically since the invention of the internet.
Should we ban it(the internet)?
NO

There are always privalages we have that some people in society abuse for their own enjoyment.

Camera phones aren't that big a problem really, but people abuse the use of them by doing stupid things like happy slapping etc..
In fact, the good factors probabley outweigh the problems of having them / legalising them.
Alkmania
Manofgames has a point there, almost everything that was once invented has a bad side to it, nothing is 100% positive. But that isn't all... Camera phones aren't a problem, because the ordinary camera's (you know, the ones you can't call with) are getting much smaller as well. These can also be abused, so why ban the camera phones and not normal camera's?

This idea is ridiculous... Confused
goutha
Manofgames wrote:
Child pornography has increased dramatically since the invention of the internet.
Should we ban it(the internet)?
NO

There are always privalages we have that some people in society abuse for their own enjoyment.

Camera phones aren't that big a problem really, but people abuse the use of them by doing stupid things like happy slapping etc..
In fact, the good factors probabley outweigh the problems of having them / legalising them.


I'm ok with you... people should be more responsible...

I think that in few years, this behavior will desappear... this technology is still new and people are experimenting new things...

Then, no abolition!!
David_Pardy
People were sticking tiny cameras on their shoes and taking photos up women's skirts at the Australian Open.

Camera phones are not even close to that sort of an issue
awesty
I dont think they should ban camera phones. That wont stop it. Digital cameras are pretty small these days.
saratdear
Manofgames is right, everything has a bad side to it. The interest hosts lots of phishing and porn sites. Should we ban the internet? The increase in television usage has given rise to many health problems. Should we ban the television. Banning something is the most extreme thing you could do and should be done only if the situation is out of control.
Rako
Manofgames wrote:
Child pornography has increased dramatically since the invention of the internet.
Should we ban it(the internet)?
NO

There are always privalages we have that some people in society abuse for their own enjoyment.

Camera phones aren't that big a problem really, but people abuse the use of them by doing stupid things like happy slapping etc..
In fact, the good factors probabley outweigh the problems of having them / legalising them.


I agree camera phones do let people commit crimes but there are worse crimes like should we ban all knifes so we can't stab people? there are thousands of things we could ban to decrease crime but most of the benefits out way the bad things that come out of them.
Nameless
If you had to ban something because it increased the rate of crime, we would be left with very little at all.

- We can't have kitchen knives, an angry wife might stab someone with it.
- We can't have spades, you might bury someone's corpse with it.
- We can't have internet smileys, someone might become homicidally enraged after seeing an obsessive number of them.
Etc.

Banning camera phones would just be stupid.
studsstudio
Then you could say the same thing about drugs. so when should something be banned? I think people should be free in making choices of having the weirdest stuff. It is a crime when using it for purposes that harm other people.

So, mobiles with camera's should not be banned.
Vrythramax
I don't think it should be banned at all...some may, and will (continue too), missuse it...but those are select indivduals that are trying to corrupt something that is essentially important.

The same can be said for the World Wide Web and the internet itself. Some people just like to cause turmoil, the rest of us shouldn't suffer the greater loss as a result.

Just my opinion.
whoamifooling
No. Not to be mean but it is kind of a stupid idea.

Quote:
There are always privalages we have that some people in society abuse for their own enjoyment.


That was mentioned above, and it's true.
hunnyhiteshseth
Yes, camera phones should be banned as they can be used for illegal activities. With that computers should be banned as they make humans addicted to them. Ofcourse, with it ban internet & knives as discussed above. And while we are at banning things, we should also ban tall buildings as some people may jump from it, ban railway tracks as somebody can come under fast moving train & yes ban aeroplanes as they are getting increasingly used to destroy buildings.

And dont forget to ban pain killers, sleeping pills as they are taken as drugs, ban windows as they allow harmful sunrays to come inside your house.


For the morons: above was sarcasm
Ray Gravin
I think the most logical way to handle this situation is to educate people of the potential harm they are in due to the camera phones presence in modern society. For that matter it would be wise to educate the public about all cameras and any other device that could prove harmfull. I think there is a time and a place to ban technology that threatens our well being, but only in much more extream cases. Weapons of mass distruction that would pose a threat to the gobe rather then just the those involved in conflict and the like.
Star Wars Fanatic
While it may present a problem, I honestly don't think that you could ban them. There are more people who would break the law and get one, then wouldn't. Even when they know they could be arrested. And I honestly think that if this law was put in place there would be riots. However, you can't just ban something because it is bad, should we ban water because people drown? Should we ban food because people are overweight? Everything has a bad side to it.
David_Pardy
Factual tip:

The banning of most firearms in Australia has NOT decreased the amount of crimes committed with a firearm. Only honest people obey laws, and do you really think the criminals have a license to carry what they carry?
Vrythramax
David_Pardy wrote:
Factual tip:

The banning of most firearms in Australia has NOT decreased the amount of crimes committed with a firearm. Only honest people obey laws, and do you really think the criminals have a license to carry what they carry?


It's been said that if you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have them.
Eclipse
I find it odd that everyone is coming to the defence of a camera phone used illicitly. Although I may hate to take up my torch (so to speak) a line must be drawn.

Sure, everything has it's drawbacks, even windows. But a legitimate concern for something threatening (such as a mechanism used for spying) should be taken seriously. And yes, I believe they should be banned.

Look, WMD's, guns, knives and weapons in general are all terrible things when used in the wrong hands. But those effects, however devastating they may be, can be cleared up in an amount of time. If you have someone taking an illicit photograph of another person and it becomes available online then you have something that will last for what could be all time. It is its own form of abuse; one that may go undetected but is certainly unwanted.

As to spy cameras; yes they do equal (if not worse) harm. But we have to start somewhere. Yes anyone can make a spy camera who knows what they are doing, but giving a free-license to just any sick-minded individual (who probably wouldn't know how to make a spy camera or otherwise) is wrong in and of itself.

Camera's are great and all but with new inventions you have to look at it from those being undermind. Sure, if the internet wasn't here, and there would be no way to send an image that quickly, why not have a camera phone? But these are different times.

And that's my two cents. Comments?
Nameless
Vrythramax wrote:
David_Pardy wrote:
Factual tip:

The banning of most firearms in Australia has NOT decreased the amount of crimes committed with a firearm. Only honest people obey laws, and do you really think the criminals have a license to carry what they carry?


It's been said that if you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have them.


If you're going to take that argument you might as well say that we should legalize murder, because people are only going to do it anyway. Rolling Eyes Just because a small number of people don't follow laws is no reason not to have them. There are MANY other reasons to have the laws, starting from 'on principal' all the way to the ability to punish people who break them.
windrei
i dont think mobile phone camera is a problem. It depends on how people use it, right ? the developers just wanna make people lives more convienent. If there were no such phone cameras but only digital cameras exist in the world, i thought the problem would be just the same. People could still use them to take some pornography, peep pictures, something like that. Could you see those digital cameras are now becoming smaller and smaller. Even someone takes a picture of you, you dont know at all. Then what's the difference ?
Soulfire
I agree that the good outweighs the bad. The internet has increased identity theft, should we ban the internet? No. Many similar arguments can be made.
highlordadmin
I dont think those phones are so bad. I dont see any sence in having a camara in your phone... But i guess someone might always have a need for it.

What i wanted to say Manofgames aleready said, there is almost always a bad site, its nothing we can do whit it.
photon
unfortunately it isnt as easy as just banning camera mobiles. This is more of a moral issue than a tech issue. Any form of technology always has its negatives, and so is the case with camera mobiles. On one hand, its really useful when you have to click priceless photos of your family or friends, you will be doing that as a genuine thing. But there are others who intrude on your freedom too! People misusing it should realize they are doing something wrong, and refrain from doing it
darrenpaul
People always find something new to entertain them. If someone wanted to film a crime they would just use one of the tiny DVD cameras.
Vrythramax
Nameless wrote:
Vrythramax wrote:
David_Pardy wrote:
Factual tip:

The banning of most firearms in Australia has NOT decreased the amount of crimes committed with a firearm. Only honest people obey laws, and do you really think the criminals have a license to carry what they carry?


It's been said that if you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have them.


If you're going to take that argument you might as well say that we should legalize murder, because people are only going to do it anyway. Rolling Eyes Just because a small number of people don't follow laws is no reason not to have them. There are MANY other reasons to have the laws, starting from 'on principal' all the way to the ability to punish people who break them.


Aren't taking this a bit to serious? I mearly stated what has been quoted before I was even born....I don't know the author. But it should be known that by mearly expressing, or stating, a comment doesn't mean it's my own personal opinion...I did state that the quote in question had said before....not that it was my stance.
glenn83e
i don't think cameras on a phone should be banned. It is almost like having a small digital camera. They are a great idea, almost as great as having a Mp3 player within the phones functions. People just have to learn to respect other peoples privacy. I mean if someone takes a picture they take a picture. wether it is using a camera phone or not, the picture was still taken.
ninjakannon
The general opinion here is that they shouldn't be banned, and I'm for that. To be honest people would be able to get along without camera phones but the camera feature (if the camera is good quality) can be very useful at times.

People have already brought up the good points, such as Manofgames and his child porn increasing because of the internet example, or what awesty said.

I don't think hofodomo01's thought is so good though. Mobile phone companies would stop producing camera phones and after a few years almost no one would have one anymore. It's not like marijuana as camera phones can't be so easily and illegally produced, exported / imported and sold. (Or I don't think so anyway.)

If camera phones were banned then camera companies would have another incentive to developed really tiny cameras and so they would just start up the problem again. You would most likely end up with a huge chain of bannings. Plus, as other people have pointed out, things like knifes are used to kill people, should they be banned too? No, of course not!
rhathar
You can easily take a picture with a regular camera and email the photo. So then, are you banning the convenience of not having to take that extra step?

Thankfully, a ban like this would never go through. There are far too many abusable things in our world, and without them we'd be pre-Stone Age... or all living at the Sunny Dale Asylum Wink
icon
I don't think camera phones are the problem; people using them are.

Besides, I'm not really sure what crimes you're talking about. I live in the majorly Nokia-obssessed Philippines where camera cell phones are so pervasive, even the cigarette vendor owns one -- and I haven't really encountered the MMS crimes (or anyone taking your photo without your knowledge -- really, what's wrong with that, if you're not doing anything bad?) you're talking about. Confused
ainieas
I don't think banning the phones will be a solution. There must be another way. I don't undrstand just how the intmate videos of the people end up on the net. Maybe self restrain is needed most.
raaeft1
I am against child porno of course and I too have a young teenager daughter.But I don't think that camera phones should be abolished. I cannot afford a good professional digital camera in India as the prices are still on the higher side; a camera phone is cheaper and delivers the goods though the quality may not be very professional.
It is up to us how we use technology; my family uses my camera phone mostly to click snaps of events and our pets.
arano
you cannot repremand society just because some people abuse the technology. I really enjoy photography as a whole and I already don't like the restrictions being put on photographers because of the current world climate. Everyone is starting to get a little paranoid about what you are up to and why you need to have the technology that you have. In most of the world people live in a democratic society and hence you are innocent until proven guilty, our police forces are there to catch the minority that abuse our society.

Camera phones may be pointless, or at most, a little fun of capturing spontaneous pics, but people have the right to use whatever they want as long as it stays within the law.
m00tmuffin
Outlawing or banning the camera phone makes absolutely no sense whatsoever--it's the people using them that we should be concerned about, if anything at all.
Vrythramax
m00tmuffin wrote:
Outlawing or banning the camera phone makes absolutely no sense whatsoever--it's the people using them that we should be concerned about, if anything at all.


Absolutly....why stop with just the phones, why not outlaw digital cameras and 35mm slr's too.....the serve the same purpose, you just can't talk into them.


Think before you post.

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