I have a sony dv camcorder and I am thinking about buying a jvc gz-mg505e it has a 30 GB hard drive.
Has anyone experience with such things?
Thx mark
Has anyone experience with such things?
Thx mark
DV Or Hard Drive Camcorders
I haven't personally had much experience with the HDD based recording, but I steer clear of it because it seems like you're limiting yourself by taking that route. I mean, even if it adds some more time and equipment to be able to transfer the video, I'd much rather use miniDV because you've got hard copy. Besides that, you know there's no compression in the master copy.
I like to keep it that way.
I like to keep it that way.
I have real problems with this technology. Its a bit like wap technology on mobile phones. Wap has been around for about 5-6 years but its only the last year that phones have been able to actually use the internet properly. The technology was released too early.
These types of camera are good for enthusiasts or web production but dont quite cut it for broadcast. The reason for this is that they record to the disk as mpeg2. Mpeg2 is used for DVD and it is a very highly compressed video format. While I'm sure the picture of the footage would be beautiful the problem comes when you go to edit the video. After editing you will need to re-encode it. Mpeg2 does not like being re-encoded as it will loose quality - it might not be much but certainly for my own standards i dont want to loose any quality at all.
If you are an enthusiast or all your projects will go to websites then this is great. It has the 5MP lens for stills too which is a nice feature so Photos will be great but if you wanna do dome professional work i wouldnt recommend it - your money would be better spend on a DVCAM unit.
These types of camera are good for enthusiasts or web production but dont quite cut it for broadcast. The reason for this is that they record to the disk as mpeg2. Mpeg2 is used for DVD and it is a very highly compressed video format. While I'm sure the picture of the footage would be beautiful the problem comes when you go to edit the video. After editing you will need to re-encode it. Mpeg2 does not like being re-encoded as it will loose quality - it might not be much but certainly for my own standards i dont want to loose any quality at all.
If you are an enthusiast or all your projects will go to websites then this is great. It has the 5MP lens for stills too which is a nice feature so Photos will be great but if you wanna do dome professional work i wouldnt recommend it - your money would be better spend on a DVCAM unit.
I agree absolutely.
Mpeg2 is diffcult to edit with.
Stick to normal miniDV tapes. They're more reliable.
Having said that, has anyone tried the P2 disks from Panasonic?
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Mpeg2 is diffcult to edit with.
Stick to normal miniDV tapes. They're more reliable.
Having said that, has anyone tried the P2 disks from Panasonic?
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thanks for the info people
I am testing my friends JVC 30gb camcorder at the moment the files are .MOD?? never heard of that extention before.
I can import it into vegas and after a re render in mpeg 2 i got a lot of interlacing problems.
After deinterlacing with vegas tools the piture is exceptable
I am testing my friends JVC 30gb camcorder at the moment the files are .MOD?? never heard of that extention before.
I can import it into vegas and after a re render in mpeg 2 i got a lot of interlacing problems.
After deinterlacing with vegas tools the piture is exceptable
Never heard of .MOD files.
But there you go, after importing into Vegas you have to do some more rendering etc... too much work.
Having said that, I'm pretty sure the manufacturer must have provided a software to do the edits, right?
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But there you go, after importing into Vegas you have to do some more rendering etc... too much work.
Having said that, I'm pretty sure the manufacturer must have provided a software to do the edits, right?
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I am gizmofreak. and i have definately heard of a cam corder of 40Gb/20Gb builtin harddisk space with 6.0 megapixel camera and other stuffs and its cheap too. its around Rs.40,000 indian currency about US$850 and it records in mpeg-2 format. isn't it cool.
its JVC camcorder
its JVC camcorder
Well it depends on what you are doing. If you are shooting your kids birthday party or vacation videos and just want to watch them than a hard drive camcorder is ok. If you are actually going to edit and add title, transitions, effects, compositing, color correction, etc....then you want a DV system.
As has been stated these hard drive based camcorders may look fine when you look at the image it puts out, BUT that is a distribution format (meaning it is good if it is your final product, NOT so good if you want to edit and play around with it). You will go through a decompression/recompression cycle which will impact the quality. There's a reason the DV stuff has been popular for so long, DV combined with firewire gives you a exact copy of the original, and it's a format you can use to edit without suffering quality loss.
As has been stated these hard drive based camcorders may look fine when you look at the image it puts out, BUT that is a distribution format (meaning it is good if it is your final product, NOT so good if you want to edit and play around with it). You will go through a decompression/recompression cycle which will impact the quality. There's a reason the DV stuff has been popular for so long, DV combined with firewire gives you a exact copy of the original, and it's a format you can use to edit without suffering quality loss.
Thanks again people i am impressed by this forum!
DV for sure, see the thing is that hard-drive camcorders compress the image into MPEG or MPEG-2 so the quality of the picture isn't as good as it would be on a DV camcorder that does not compress! DV camera is what I would suggest, not these new things like hard-drive, flash memmory, etc. cameras! Stick with the good old tapes, you'll do much better with them! 
Definitely, for a simple recording you should stick with tapes, like DV. No complication on an old way that all software and hardware video production causes no trouble (only the usual problems... hehehe).
I understand recording in a HDD is only useful on a pro usage, like having a Panasonic HVX-200 and recording HD video signal onto a FireStore in as a TIFF sequence, for a proper post-production and film output (or progressive DVD authoring).
I understand recording in a HDD is only useful on a pro usage, like having a Panasonic HVX-200 and recording HD video signal onto a FireStore in as a TIFF sequence, for a proper post-production and film output (or progressive DVD authoring).
Yeh I will stay with my old sony dv.
My friend was selling his sony pd150 I am very jellous cos i would rather have that than my canon XM2.
The pd150 is a sexy machine and must be gettin on a bit now,why anrt the prices dropping for this beast?
My friend was selling his sony pd150 I am very jellous cos i would rather have that than my canon XM2.
The pd150 is a sexy machine and must be gettin on a bit now,why anrt the prices dropping for this beast?
Not sure if I'm in the right discussion but I have a minDV camcorder and I want to put the footage into a DVD. I have a tv tuner. What software do I need and how can I do it?
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| Not sure if I'm in the right discussion but I have a minDV camcorder and I want to put the footage into a DVD. I have a tv tuner. What software do I need and how can I do it? |
with Nero you can, but if you want to make really fancy menus and so on buy either DVD Studio 4, which comes with Final Cut Studio 5.1 if you have a Machintosh computer but if you're one of the Windows users then you could buy Adobe Encore 2.0, both are very expensive programs so you better think carefully how much you want to spend of DVD burning!
DV fo sure. Its easy to work with. Hdd is garbage
Umm.....
But as people says the video gets compressed into some sort of MPEG2 format but the extention of the file is (.MOD) I have never come across this extenstion before.
During the last week of testing I found out a few things:
The first thing I noticed was that the JVC HD camcorder has NO viewfinder so you have to use the screen (or film it blind) and as we all know using the screen zapps the battery pretty quickly!
You got max 2 hours life with it,it doesnt last the day!
Also I have noticed during tests that the tracking is a bit slow whilst recording,it seems that the camera cant keep up whilst panning around or movements..
Still testing it..
But as people says the video gets compressed into some sort of MPEG2 format but the extention of the file is (.MOD) I have never come across this extenstion before.
During the last week of testing I found out a few things:
The first thing I noticed was that the JVC HD camcorder has NO viewfinder so you have to use the screen (or film it blind) and as we all know using the screen zapps the battery pretty quickly!
You got max 2 hours life with it,it doesnt last the day!
Also I have noticed during tests that the tracking is a bit slow whilst recording,it seems that the camera cant keep up whilst panning around or movements..
Still testing it..
I recently gained a little bit of experience with a HDD recording camera, and ran into trouble with the MPEG-2 format. Eesh... so, if the advantage is to have it already in digital format, but the format it records to is a pain in the ass to do anything with.... IS there an advantage?
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